Black Hair Dye - How To get It Out

[MAC_addiction<3]

I Have found the Affinage color eraser thanks to Korms ^^
but now im stuck on finding a filler (e.g. goldwell pre color)
I can't find one anywhere, ive searched ebay..searched google
but there are none on any UK websites. I'm not going to use the
color eraser until ive got the filler, pureply because i wont be
able to dye my hair over it..it will be too porous.
Can someone help me out on either where i can find the goldwell
product or another filler? I would realllllly appreciate it
thanks
xox

[MAC_addiction<3]

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Originally Posted by Poison_Ivy

hey i know the feeling i am a hairdresser and i have made the same mistake unfortounatly there is no good solution...it is going to be damaging but th eonly thing you can do is a soap cap it is a few scoops of bleach(hair bleack not the other kind) and shampoo you mix it wet it and lather like you would with shampoo let it sit for about 10 mins tops you can do this every two weeks but i wouldnt do it more than 3 times o ther than that thats all unless you just grow it out

Is this just as damaging as bleaching the black colour out? as i really need a mild solution because its taken me 2 years to sort my damaged hair out and i don't want to have to go through all of that again. So you literally put a few scoops of bleach in a bowl and mix it with shampoo? any special kind of shampoo? and whats the ratio you should do it to? (e.g. 2 scoops bleach to 4 scoops shampoo)

thanks
x

[MAC_addiction<3]

I used The Color eraser from affinage and washed my hair about 10 times to get it out then used the post eraser and it came out a browny redy color (i had red on before the black) i know now that i needed to use the color eraser a second time to try and get the red out but because my hairs long i'd used it all so after i used my color equalise treatment to help the porosity of my hair i put a brown dye over it and it turned out BLACK..but my roots are ginger :S i know people say you should use a shade 1 or 2 lighter than you want but i did and it still turned out black..its my birthday monday and i desperatly need to sort my hair out..i need to get it all brown and get rid of my ginger roots. I think Im going to buy 2 lots of the color eraser and try again im soo upset ive spent all day on it and wasted about £25. I know so many people are going to say go to the salon and have it done and i wish i did now but its too late and i havent got the money now so im going to try and use the eraser again..i'm pretty sure it'll work :S any1 got any advice?

[civicbabe627]

Yeah - those color erasers don't work. I used Colorfix and it turned my hair that brownish red that you were talking about - well I was gonna leave it that color because it actually looked GOOD. Next day I washed my hair and it was freaking BLACK again! Makes no logical sense, but whatever. So I used it again and put medium brown dye on it, and it's still black.

Evil, evil black dye. =( Your only option is bleach, I'm afraid.

[Korms]

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Originally Posted by MAC_addiction<3

I used The Color eraser from affinage and washed my hair about 10 times to get it out then used the post eraser and it came out a browny redy color (i had red on before the black) i know now that i needed to use the color eraser a second time to try and get the red out but because my hairs long i'd used it all so after i used my color equalise treatment to help the porosity of my hair i put a brown dye over it and it turned out BLACK..but my roots are ginger :S i know people say you should use a shade 1 or 2 lighter than you want but i did and it still turned out black..its my birthday monday and i desperatly need to sort my hair out..i need to get it all brown and get rid of my ginger roots. I think Im going to buy 2 lots of the color eraser and try again im soo upset ive spent all day on it and wasted about £25. I know so many people are going to say go to the salon and have it done and i wish i did now but its too late and i havent got the money now so im going to try and use the eraser again..i'm pretty sure it'll work :S any1 got any advice?

How long did you leave the new colour on for? I would only have left it on for about a quarter of the time suggested. Did you use semi or permanent? Semi would have been a preferable option.

The reason it probably turned out black is because there was still some black pigment left in your hair, you couldn't see it before you re-dyed it because the colour molecues hadn't re-oxidised, until you used the dye of course. The developer in that would cause the colour to swell and return your hair to black, hence why I said to wait a few days before re-dying. Colour removers do work but they can't always get all the pigment out in one go, it all depends on how much black dye you put on your hair.

You may as well go to the salon now, it's going to cost you £40 at least if you want to use the Eraser two more times and you still might end up with black hair. When I did my colour removal I did it about 4 times over the space of about 2 months, without applying dye in between. Like I said before, these things require time and patience and it is unrealistic to expect it to happen in one day.

I really must reiterate that doing any chemical process at home is a gamble and you must do research before doing so to ensure that you understand colour theory and chemical processes, and even then it can still go wrong.

Sorry to hear you didn't have any success

[civicbabe627]

Korms - when you used the color remover did your hair turn black again after you washed it the next day? Mine did!

[Korms]

No, mine didn't (I was going from red, which I explained a few posts back) it went golden blonde immediately after then oxidised to a light red-brown. Subsequant removals got me to a pale golden brown. It could have been for a number of reasons, maybe I didn't have as much dye to remove from my hair so there were less of the colour molecules to re-oxidise. The hair returning to the colour it was before is not a result of the colour remover not working, it is normally because of the amount of pigment in the hair that needs to be removed. The remover causes the colour molecules to shrink, not to be stripped like with bleach, so they are small enough to be washed from the hair. If there is a lot of pigment, and thus molecules, in the hair the rinsing process may not reach all of them and the cannot be removed. So once the remover is rinsed the hair may look lighter because the molecules have not returned to their normal size, but one re-oxidisation takes place they swell and the pigment returns, there is just less of it than last time so repeated removals eventually clear the hair of colour.

That is my understanding of it anyway.

This YouTube video kind of explains what I mean about the colour molecules shrinking. See how the water turns clear?

YouTube - Color Vanish - Hair Color Removal

And what she says about it being "magic", it's really not, it's chemistry. Haha.

[MAC_addiction<3]

thats really cleverrr, that videos helped. so is this vanish just another colour remover like the affinage one then?
x

[Korms]

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Originally Posted by MAC_addiction<3

thats really cleverrr, that videos helped. so is this vanish just another colour remover like the affinage one then?
x

Yeah, it's pretty much exactly the same product. It works the same way for sure.

[civicbabe627]

Ooooh - I get it, it all makes sense to me now! Lol. Yeah, I had been dying my hair black for 2 years, so that's probably why it wouldn't come out. Thanks for the info!

[MAC_addiction<3]

Well my roots are sorted now i got some dye and died them so i no longer have ginger roots phew lol! But my hair is still darker than id like its a very very dark brown but not quite black! I suppose i did get somewhere then as i did remove tha black lol..although it does still look black in some lights. Im Hoping its going to fade, i onmly want it ONE shade lighter and then it'l be near my natural colour and my roots won't look so bad when they grow in. I might go to the hairdressers in the future if it doesnt fade & see if theres anything they can do to lift it one shade lighter without using bleach. I'll have to see whether i grow to like it or not :S Thanks for all your help everyone x

[flatiron]

I understand the troubles after the hair is dyed. Its really hard to change the hair color once dyed. As more dye in different color may not bring in the desired results.
I wish to recommend some time for the hair to regain the strength and get the present color of dye bleached naturally. And yes, it may look quite odd for few weeks. Then you can try out some good hair color.
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[cupcake_x]

Wash your hair with dish soap and it will all come out, even permanent colors.
Believe me, I had freshly dyed black hair a few months ago and I washed it with dish soap (experimental!) and ALL my dye came out.