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Hair care products for WOC...
I know this is more of a make-up forum. But, I thought it would still be the best place to ask. For the ladies with African American hair, what do use after washing & conditioning it to keep it smooth & soft? If you flat iron your hair, do you use any kind of serum that helps it to get extra straight? My Husband got me a gift certificate for Trade Secret, but they have so many products that I'm not really sure where to start. I have heard good things about Mizzani products, but not sure which product of theirs to choose. Any help would be greatly appreciated ladies! If it helps....I have thick relaxed hair that just gets huge & frizzy when I let it air dry. Thanks!

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Re: Hair care products for WOC...
my hair seems about the same texture as yours. Thick and scary lol.
but i love my hair.

I use Tresemme shampoos/conditioner.. along with pantene relaxed and natural shampoos/conditioner. After I wash I put in some smoothing cream from Tresemme and the straightening gel also from Tresemme.
Then I use the Organics Olive Oil moisturizing hair lotion all over and as I part and blow dry each section of hair I rub in Organics Jojoba oil root stimulator.

What you could consider from trade secrets is some hard rollers - I try to flat iron my hair once a week then use rollers for the rest of the week to keep my hair straight as the flat iron just ruins your hair. I am trying to stop using so much heat on my hair and already its doing a lot better.

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Re: Hair care products for WOC...
Mizani is a great line. The roseh20 is great but the first ingredient is mineral oil so if that will weigh ur hair down dont use it.

KPac by Joico is also good. It adds protein but not as much moisture, so it will help rebuild, but this can be heavy also.

The Redken products are really not that great so I dont recommend any of those.

Matrix is a good line but look for the sleek look products, they are great.

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Re: Hair care products for WOC...
Nexxus shampoos and conditioners are good products
i believe you can get from Trade Secrets. Its been a long time since i had relaxed hair but the other products i found to be good and can be purchased from Beauty SUpply stores were
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Cream of Nature shampoo (green/white bottle)
Burts Bees Raspberry shampoo and conditioner. good all natural product and can be purchased from their website or Wallgreens

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Re: Hair care products for WOC...
I know this might not be the place but my daughter are mixed hispanic with jamaican and my oldest hair is wavy but can get really frizzy, what can I use in her hair to get the frizz out? I have tried everything from pantene to treseme products.

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Re: Hair care products for WOC...
I actually like Redken stuff. The smooth down line is fab. I have relaxed, non-thick hair! lol

But I would invest in a hardhat dryer or a conditioner cap. This should help keep your hair mosturized. Kernra is a well received line (I haven't tried it). Joico I hear is also a great line.

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Re: Hair care products for WOC...
hmmm what is your hair type ?

ORS products and Pantene (not the WOC line) are both great brands

When i flat iron i use Thermasilk heat something and Fantasia Heat Protectant Serum - my hair doesnt get frizzy til i wash it.

You should get a nice creamy moisturiser for when you airdry - it may still be thick and big but it wouldn't be as frizzy

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Re: Hair care products for WOC...
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I know this might not be the place but my daughter are mixed hispanic with jamaican and my oldest hair is wavy but can get really frizzy, what can I use in her hair to get the frizz out? I have tried everything from pantene to treseme products.
jamaican is not a race ... do you mean brown-skinned ?

you need to get products formulated for her hair type and for curly and dry hair. Have you ever tried Kinky Curly Custard (i think that is the name) apparently that has alot of great reviews. You should also check out Miss Jessies Products

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Re: Hair care products for WOC...
I use Paul Mitchell products. I use lavender mint shampoo or shampoo 2 and super strong treatment. I use super skinny serum cuts down on drying time and is excellent for heat protection when flat ironing. I usually wear a roller set called a roller wrap. It can last 2 weeks but I get my hair done weekly.

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Re: Hair care products for WOC...
I love Frederic Fekkai products. My hair is always so soft and smells great. The conditioners are particularly good.

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Re: Hair care products for WOC...
I use mostly Mizani products...

Therma Strengthening Style Serum, Thermasmooth Shine Extend Anti-Humidity,Therma Guard Smoothing Serum

I always put a small amount of Biosilk or Mizani High Gloss Serum on my hair daily....

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Re: Hair care products for WOC...
When my hair was relaxed I used the serum from the Organic Root Stimulator range when I used GHD irons on my hair after blowdrying it. You only need a tiny amount, it leaves it soft and non-greasy (but with a lovely sheen), and you don't get that nasty burnt hair smell.

Quick question: I'm African so I always just say I have afro hair (with an adjective such as 'relaxed' or 'natural' for more detail). Is African American hair specifically different from mine? Sorry if that's a silly question, but this is the second post I've seen using that description and I got a bit confused. TIA!

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you need to get products formulated for her hair type and for curly and dry hair. Have you ever tried Kinky Curly Custard (i think that is the name) apparently that has alot of great reviews. You should also check out Miss Jessies Products
Do you think she should have said mixed origin? Would she have been able to say Jamaican and Hispanic? If Black people are described (race wise) as African-Americans because of their origin why can't she say Jamaican, because one of her children's parents originated from Jamaica. I'm not being rude I'm just a little confused and I apologize for jacking this thread.

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When my hair was relaxed I used the serum from the Organic Root Stimulator range when I used GHD irons on my hair after blowdrying it. You only need a tiny amount, it leaves it soft and non-greasy (but with a lovely sheen), and you don't get that nasty burnt hair smell.

Quick question: I'm African so I always just say I have afro hair (with an adjective such as 'relaxed' or 'natural' for more detail). Is African American hair specifically different from mine? Sorry if that's a silly question, but this is the second post I've seen using that description and I got a bit confused. TIA!
It's not a silly question, as you can see from my previous post I too am confused. I guess everybody has a difference of opinion when it comes to race descriptions and hair types. To answer ur question, there is no difference. Afro and Natural all means the same in my book. I think the OP was just letting us know that she is of African-American decent but doesn't neccesarily have natural hair. She might have it relaxed or have used some other type of straightening process.

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Re: Hair care products for WOC...
I use Profectiv, Mizani, Keracare, and Design Essentials haircare products. My hairstylist swears by Jane Carter's Solutions for colored treated haircare.

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Adding...I also love Carol's Daughter products as well...

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Re: Hair care products for WOC...
I do not like any of Carol's hair care products. They are all too heavy for my hair and seem more for unrelaxed hair or thicker natural hair. Alot of it is beeswax based so seems like a pomade. Just too darn greasy for me. I like my hair light and flowy not weighed down.

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^^ My hair is not relaxed...Maybe thats why I like it
I have only tried a couple of her products (Shampoo & conditioner)...expensive and always out of stock everytime I try to find them.

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^^ My hair is not relaxed...Maybe thats why I like it
That would indeed explain it! You have nice hair... in your pics it looks relaxed. Do you flat iron it?

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^^^ I flat iron it sometimes when it's longer...But when it is short...I just wash it, apply smoothin serum, wrap and tie it in a bandana until it dries...I may have to bump it with the flat iron or curler occasionally...But not everyday ...My hair is so fine if I relaxed it it would probably look like straw or dental floss.

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If Black people are described (race wise) as African-Americans because of their origin why can't she say Jamaican...
That is an awesome point. I never understand why people make such an issue by nationality references.

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Do you think she should have said mixed origin? Would she have been able to say Jamaican and Hispanic? If Black people are described (race wise) as African-Americans because of their origin why can't she say Jamaican, because one of her children's parents originated from Jamaica. I'm not being rude I'm just a little confused and I apologize for jacking this thread.
HUGE SECOND!!! i am EXTREMELY confused as to what the issue w/ her saying that her daughters are Jamaican & Hispanic is. . . why should she have said her daughters were "brown-skinned?!?!" half the world is "brown-skinned! (I'm generalizing, here!) "Brown-skinned" can describe anyone from Asians to Latinos to Africans to Caribbeans etc. . . I believe she was correct in identifying her daughter's specific ethnicities rather than just generalizing them as "brown-skinned" or "mixed." Because mixed children's hair is EXTREMELY varied, but by identifying her daughter's ethnicities, there is a better chance that someone here would have similar hair & be able to identify & help.

I'm not trying to start anything, I'm just trying to understand the confusion. . .

I myself am mixed, Jamaican & Caucasian (50/50) & this is how I ALWAYS identify myself. I would never refer to myself or my siblings as simply "brown-skinned. . . "that is not a race or an ethnicity either. . . "mixed, biracial, or multiracial" is as far as I will generalize, but there again, these terms are so broad that I usually specify exactly what I am.

Just my personal thoughts & opinions. . . feel free to disagree, but as a "mixed" woman, I feel that I have at least some experience on this issue/ topic.


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Re: Hair care products for WOC...
As for hair products i use. . . well i haven't found my HG products yet - I am constantly searching for something to quench my super dry, bushy, kinky hair! lol

I do like Cream of Nature shampoos & Suave conditioners. . . I have tried everything from Carol's Daughter to Nexxus to Lush to Curls products to name a few. . . the problem i've had w/ most higher end products is the fact that I have SO MUCH hair that I have to use about HALF the bottle every day just to condition! & being on a college student's budget, I can't very well afford to pay $20 on a conditioner that is gonna last me a couple of days max! Suave & VO5 conditioners actually work better than most of the HE ones i've tried. . .

and Carol's Daughters products that I've tried did NOTHING for my hair. . . the Tui detangling leave-in left it crispy & the Tui butter is too heavy even for my thick hair. . . but I have heard good things about the Hair Milk, so I think I'll try that next!

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HUGE SECOND!!! i am EXTREMELY confused as to what the issue w/ her saying that her daughters are Jamaican & Hispanic is. . . why should she have said her daughters were "brown-skinned?!?!" half the world is "brown-skinned! (I'm generalizing, here!) "Brown-skinned" can describe anyone from Asians to Latinos to Africans to Caribbeans etc. . . I believe she was correct in identifying her daughter's specific ethnicities rather than just generalizing them as "brown-skinned" or "mixed." Because mixed children's hair is EXTREMELY varied, but by identifying her daughter's ethnicities, there is a better chance that someone here would have similar hair & be able to identify & help.

I'm not trying to start anything, I'm just trying to understand the confusion. . .

I myself am mixed, Jamaican & Caucasian (50/50) & this is how I ALWAYS identify myself. I would never refer to myself or my siblings as simply "brown-skinned. . . "that is not a race or an ethnicity either. . . "mixed, biracial, or multiracial" is as far as I will generalize, but there again, these terms are so broad that I usually specify exactly what I am.

Just my personal thoughts & opinions. . . feel free to disagree, but as a "mixed" woman, I feel that I have at least some experience on this issue/ topic.

I totally agree with you. I don't understand what the issue was/is either. I'm also a "mixed" woman (black, irish, cherokee) & when describing my race that is what I say. Brown skinned could be so many different races. I would really like to know why she had a problem with her describing her daughter the way she did.

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Re: Hair care products for WOC...
ok I'm have natural hair (which means no chemicals added)...heres just a tiny section of the back of my head *my hair gets extremely BIG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, but its tiny bit damped *air drying*):


any products that works for my coily/kinky hairtype is anything with a cream consistency to tame my curl patterns (I perfer organic products, but you know how that goes).

with no product in it ..this is how it drys..so frizzy and shrinks!!:

massive shrinkage

I'm on a forum that helps with hairtyping(your hair pattern) and how to take care of your hair etc.

similar hair to her ..her hair bigness is my inspiration lol:

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