make up schools

[LaurieAnne1983]

Could anyone tell me what it takes to become a makeup artist with a regular decent job and to learn everything about applying makeup? I went three years in the USA getting my bachelors of music in vocal peformance but didn't finish - now am thinking about becoming a makeup artist - how do you do that? How much does it cost? Is it possible to do without having a car? I moved here to Sydney in march - I live in waitara (by hornsby in the upper north shore area), I might like to work at MAC, not sure what jobs are available for makeup artists, how long you have to go to school, where you go to school - any good schools in Sydney? I would have to pay something extra since I'm not Australian I'm told to go to any schools here. Any links? Can anyone clue me in?? Thanks sooo much.

[Bec688]

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Originally Posted by LaurieAnne1983

Could anyone tell me what it takes to become a makeup artist with a regular decent job and to learn everything about applying makeup? I went three years in the USA getting my bachelors of music in vocal peformance but didn't finish - now am thinking about becoming a makeup artist - how do you do that? How much does it cost? Is it possible to do without having a car? I moved here to Sydney in march - I live in waitara (by hornsby in the upper north shore area), I might like to work at MAC, not sure what jobs are available for makeup artists, how long you have to go to school, where you go to school - any good schools in Sydney? I would have to pay something extra since I'm not Australian I'm told to go to any schools here. Any links? Can anyone clue me in?? Thanks sooo much.

Have you become a permanent resident here? Or are you only here for a short amount of time? Usually if you are just over here to study, you will be classed as in international student and therefore you would have to pay more. But if you have decided to reside here, you would pay what anyone else that lives here would have to.
As far as schools go, it all depends on what type of make up artist you want to be and what type of work you are after. You said you want to work at MAC, here's the info on what's required, Lara posted this a little furthur up in the thread, but here it is again;

''To work on a MAC counter in Australia you need at least a certficate of cosmetic retail.

MAC counters are a mixture of certificate III/diploma of make-up art and certificate of cosmetic retail (can disinfect items, can suggest colours and hand items to customers, but cannot apply make-up to a customer). The busier the store, the more cosmetic retail people they'll employ.
MAC stores are all cert III/diploma of make-up art only. ''

Generally most schools can be accessed by some form of public transport, inquire about this when researching schools.

Depending on what course you choose in regards to make up, whether it be Cert III, or Diploma, courses usually go between 6-12 months, some even go for 18 months.

Schools, there's plenty around, make sure it's an accredited one. The Makeup Academy are a pretty decent school, 3ARTS and Media Make up Academy & Agency, I have heard really good things about. Tafe also does Make up courses, it all depends on what type of make up artistry you want to persue. There's plenty of us on here, ask some of the others girls what schools they have been to, and get feedback from them as well.

[LaurieAnne1983]

Hey there, thanks! Well, I'm just here on a tourist visa for 6 months, but I plan on getting married to an Australian (why I moved here) in the next few months and going through the immigration process. Anyone else know any good schools in Sydney? Thanks so much)

[LaurieAnne1983]

Another quick question - I am in Sydney now, but plan on going back to the US to live within a year. Does anyone know what MAC and other major MU stores/ counters require in the US vs Sydney? Is there an internationally accepted thing? Do I strictly just need some certificate in makeup or do I need something to do with business/retail? Is there a breakdown of the different degrees or certificates or whatever they are somewhere and whats better than what and what each takes and so forth? I wouldn't want to go to school here and then not be able to work in the US or vice versa, I am really unsure about where I will be working or where to go to school. Should I wait til I'm back in the US to go to school? Also - I'd love something that gave me whatever I need to work on skin and be a makeup artist all at one time, so I could work wherever I could find a job. Not interested at alll in learning about hair or nails. I'd like to be able to do facials, etc, sell skin care products, apply makeup, and sell makeup. All the websites I've found only have makeup on them, not skin too, and say certificate II of beauty therapy or makeup or a diploma in either of those, anyone know what the difference is? I dont see that certificate III thing ya'll talked about mentioned on any of the websites I see. And it costs 10,000 dollars to go, gee, I can't afford to go. X( Thanks for the help!

[ballerino]

Im so sorry to revive this thread, lol but i desperately am trying to find a short course on the Gold Coast to do some weddings etc till i can do my Cert next year, does anyone know of any? Im having the hardest time getting any answers RE courses!!!!! i just want to do the right one.....

[Ella_]

I just spoke to the people at the Academy of Makeup again so I thought I would bump this.

Their campus in Brisbane opens officailly in January next year, and Im thinking of doing a Cert II in makeup services which I beleive is the retail makeup cert?

Im mostly doing the course for myself, If I enjoy it and do well then I will drop back my uni work load - I study via correspondence - and do the diploma in sem 2 next year. I also thought it may help me get a foot in at a cosmetics counter somewhere... so...

Oh and they are meant to be having an open day later this year.

[lara]

I'm currently studying for the papers needed to teach cert of cosmetic retail, cert II of make-up services, cert IV of make-up services and extension to Dip. of make-up artistry.

Cert II MUS is very retail orientated, it's more or less cert of cosmetic retail + three very short units of beauty, bridal and glamour. If you have any appropriate business-related RPL, be sure to mention it to the course organiser and see if you can test out of any business units.

[Bec688]

I went to the open day at the Sydney academy and the lady there semmed pretty lenient when it came to RPLing, there were a lot of girls there that were enrolling that had similar modules in previous courses that she said would be allowed to be RPLed. So take Lara's advice and definately ask

Lara, what make up college are you attending?

[lara]

PM me. I don't dish publicly what schools I'm learning at/working with.

[lara]

Some things to think about when choosing a school in Australia:

Go to wherever you feel comfortable, as long as:
- they supply quality products (ideally not from a single product line),
- have capable teachers that you can see yourself working with and going to them with questions,
- have good facilities (light and airy, with array-lit mirrors and plenty of bench space, chairs that can be raised and lowered, with sinks ideally in the classroom, toilet facilities and OH&S regulations clearly displayed on the wall),
- you feel like you're going to get the best education that you can get. Do your research, talk to former students and see if the school has had any complaints or investigations lodged against them.
- ensure that they have current VETAB accreditation and are teaching current courses (Cert II Makeup Services, Cert II Cosmetic Retail, Cert IV Makeup Services or Diploma of Makeup Artisty) and the teacher/s have a Diploma of Business and can show you their Workplace Training credentials. Some schools are still teaching cert III courses - avoid these at all costs. It has been deleted from the national curriculum and will be worth nothing.

[princess_nat_88]

Anyone go to the new Brisbane academy of makeup? Their next open day is sat 16 june. To rsvp call angela 1300554517

[Ella_]

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Anyone go to the new Brisbane academy of makeup? Their next open day is sat 16 june. To rsvp call angela 1300554517

Im enrolled to start their Cert 2 course on June 25th.

[Bec688]

Angela is fabulous. She is SO friendly and helpful. I really enjoyed the info day I went to at the Sydney Academy.

Ella, when you're a little into the course, give us an update

[Ella_]

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Originally Posted by Bec688

Angela is fabulous. She is SO friendly and helpful. I really enjoyed the info day I went to at the Sydney Academy.

Ella, when you're a little into the course, give us an update

Will do

[Bec688]

Ella, a little off topic. Are you going to purchase one of their make up kits or brushes? If you have, what are they like?

[summeri]

I have almost completed the cert II at the academy in sydney!! its alot of fun and the gorgeous cosmetics range is really nice, you'll learn alot

[Ella_]

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Originally Posted by Bec688

Ella, a little off topic. Are you going to purchase one of their make up kits or brushes? If you have, what are they like?

I will be getting their brushes in about a week, a late birthday gift from my mum As soon as I get them I will report back

I havent got a makeup kit yet as we dont need them for the cert 2, everything is supplied in class, we just supply our on disposables etc. However I will be getting one of the kits if I like their products, otherwise I'll probaby use products by MUFE, NARS some MAC etc...

[girloflowers]

ooh i might be going to the sydney academy! tel me more >.<

and wow im glad for that link to the napoleon thread! i can't belive i was considering paying nearly 10 thou to go there! thankyou so, so so much! I don't want to go through all that and be considered a joke!, i can't thank you enough!

[lynae002]

Aspiring artist, what are the different certificates out there? What do they mean?

[_ohmygosh]

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Aspiring artist, what are the different certificates out there? What do they mean?

It really depends on what academies/colleges/TAFE's they are.. but in the brochure of the place I am going to, they have these types of certificates available, Please note that some institutions call their certificate title a bit differently than others,:

- Cert II , Make up services: basically, it gives you the professional skills to work in retail, selling cosmetics i.e at a cosmetics counter in a department store, chemist etc. Also it gives you the skill to be qualified as a MUA of weddings.

- Cert III : is usually for being qualified to do make up for live productions, theatre and events, i.e fashion shoots, fashion parades, musicals, modelling portfolios.

- Cert IV: is usually for qualifications for doing make up on set of television productions - including news reporters, commercials, tv shows, as well as music clips and films.

- Diploma of Make up : Is suitable for people who want to work as a film and television make up artist/technician, it also gives you the skill to be able to become a supervisor in this industry.

-The Advance Diploma is basically all of the above plus the skills required for managing, co-ordinating and supervise catwalks, theatres, editorial photography, productions, films, events, etc etc.

Sorry about the ridiculous lack of grammar, I am so tired from work but happy to help!.

[lara]

Always check with VETAB and never take the school at face value as quite a few of those certificates being offered are no longer accredited.

There are also some deeply shady schools that use VETAB teaching materials but the schools are completely unregistered with any education registrars and your pieces of paper will be worth squat.

[bluekrushbabe]

Can anyone reccomend a make up course in melbourne? What level of make-up education would best help you get a job at a mac counter?

[Paramnesia]

I'm also looking to study in melbourne. I've been looking around and I'm thinking either the academy of make up or take a tafe course in geelong (so I can be closer to home)

I'm not sure whether to go for Diploma of make-up or Cert II , Make up services. At the moment its all pretty overwhelming.

I'm currently studying Biological Science at uni and thinking of deferring for a year. I don't want to give up on my degree, I just want to do something I'm passionate about. I feel so bored with uni and constricted. I'm constantly thinking about make up and its the only thing I'm truly passionate about.

At the same time, I've only gotten into make in the past year and feel people will judge me.

In the end my dream would be to work for MAC. Mean while I'd love to do Bridal MU and Special occasions MU. MA's at MAC are always surprised at my knowledge of MAC products, I guess I have specktra to thank for that lol.

Just check out the tafe website (vic) to find places that have course.
TAFE Courses Directory

[miss_bailey]

I have pretty much the same question as above but RE Sydney? Anyone got a recomendation?

[Vesu]

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MAC stores are all cert III/diploma of make-up art only.

I don't mean to throw a spanner in the works here but that's not necessarily the case. In Brisbane alone I know of five staff currently working for MAC and one ex member who is now a senior makeup artist with another branch of the parent company and none of them have the above qualifications.

Quite frankly, a Diploma is way overqualified for a counter job to start with as is a Cert III (which does exist - it's in Live Production, Theatre and Events). Granted, people do get Cert II in Makeup Services but, again, while highly desireable, it's not compulsory.