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I really don't get the appeal! Those dolls are wearing Minnie Mouse shoes. Their knees are bent like they can't keep their balance in high heels. Fortunately they've got their sugar canes to hold onto. their mouths have the ugliest shape. They are holding the dumbest pose. Is this what MAC addicts really hope to look like? I look at their body shape and I just want to stretch them out and make them do yoga. I'm surprised there is no dissent on these. Does every single specktra member consider Fafinettes to be good art?

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I totally agree that fafinettes are unappealing. A lot of trendy "art" these days look the same. As mentioned by another poster, someone else had confused fafi and another artist's work.

While ppl say that her work expresses women's sexuality freely, i find that the work is very stagnant. The girls have the same expression and the only differences between the dif characters are the wigs and color of their clothing. Instead of expressing individuality, these fafinettes display a very specific and singular type of sexuality, which IMHO is rather slutty.

I can't say whether the artist can actually draw, but i dont feel her lines are particularly expressive or etc.

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Re: Fafi & MAC collaboration discussion
The same things could be said about Barbie. I'm not very familiar with Fafi, but MAC does awesome collabs. That's for sure. I'm sure the inspired looks will be awesome.

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A lot of things were said about Barbie at the time when the collection came out! One difference is Barbie is not supposed to be art. Here the word "art" keeps popping up and I just don't see it. Plus, If Fafi's work is supposed to be about female sexuality, well lordosis and big boobs don't suggest freedom to me. It's more of a male fantasy, and very limited at that.

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Re: Fafi & MAC collaboration discussion
Has anyone seen miss emc's post on teasers? This collection looks absolutely massive and I think i almost fainted when i saw what was in it!!

Looks to me like this collection won't be as well known as barbie (which had both a mac collector and barbie collector fanbase); but the products just might surpass the barbie collection just by the number of products being released and I am sure through that, the range of colors. Barbie loves mac did incredibly well last year and I think Fafi for Mac will be no different

In regards to the Fafi doll debate, to me they embody the women of the 60's/70's- free spirited and carefree

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Re: Fafi & MAC collaboration discussion
I think "art" has a very loose definition. What one might perceive as art could be perceived as trash by another. Its all about perspective.

Fafi is a graffiti-inspired artist. Some may not see graffiti as "art" but it is art form. She doesn't claim to be Van Gogh or da Vinci & I don't believe that any one is regarding her as such.

Her art is rather cartoonish. If you look at her "walls" section on her website [http://www.fafi.net/wallpaint/years.html], you can see the evolution of her painting & drawing, starting back in 1994. Yes, there is more sex appeal now. But she has always used bright colors to play up her paintings & drawings.

I think the colors & style that Fafi creates is what inspired MAC to do the collaberation. Also, the femininity associated to her work. I think Fafinette's embody freedom for women; its an attempt to break the stereotypes.

No one is asking anyone to draw hearts on their cheeks or dress like a Fafinette. And I'm sure anybody can still enjoy the abundance of products this collection offers, even if they don't consider Fafi's work "art."

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omg they look so so cute i want them all!

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awwww damn i cannot wait for this!!!!!!!!i wonder when this will be released in the US?anyone know?

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OK, I want a quad for the artwork and the mirror, if nothing else!

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Those look soooo adorable!! Those lipstick colours are teh sex.

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I really don't get the appeal! Those dolls are wearing Minnie Mouse shoes. Their knees are bent like they can't keep their balance in high heels. Fortunately they've got their sugar canes to hold onto. their mouths have the ugliest shape. They are holding the dumbest pose. Is this what MAC addicts really hope to look like? I look at their body shape and I just want to stretch them out and make them do yoga. I'm surprised there is no dissent on these. Does every single specktra member consider Fafinettes to be good art?
i agree! i dont even know why mac bothers bringing out dolls or bags etc.. its all about the makeup! well thats what ill be spending money on.. not the bags or dolls which have no use to me at all. I do like the bright colours though and how 'differen't they are

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Can anyone translate please? I really want to know what they are saying

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Now seeing the pics, my lemmings are less, mostly on the blushes and I need to know the shades of the paint pots, and that's it!

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Im saving from now, those quads look hot!!

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Re: Fafi & MAC collaboration discussion
As soon as I spied those BRIGHT lippies on the german site, I fell in LOVE! And some of the lipglass colors look incredible! Plus, there is special packaging! Could it get any cuter?

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This is so awesome! I love Fafi's art sooo much! I must have the whole collection...

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As soon as I spied those BRIGHT lippies on the german site, I fell in LOVE! And some of the lipglass colors look incredible! Plus, there is special packaging! Could it get any cuter?
It's not German, I think it's Dutch. The other site is French.

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So far, I'm liking what I see.....Can't wait for more details.

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i did a online translator thing for the first site and got this:

"Etrange personage that this Fafi, passed illegality when she "taguait" the streets of his natal city, Toulouse, to a welcome VIP with Colette to Paris or in a gallery of Los Angeles. One will rediscover soon the signature of the French designer on the counters of the brand MAC, to that she ready his palette of colors and its "Fafinettes", small creatures sexy and always petier as they growing. Fafi and the Fafinettes did a jump to New York to present the new collection crackling make-up of the spring with MAC, and their universe in the middle of the expansion

In fifteen years, Fafi transfered adolescent rebel to the international artist gifted for the matters that she is today: during his young existence of 33 years, she already signed contracts with Sony, Adidas, LeSportsac, Coca-Cola, and now MAC. Under his apparent spontaneity, mischievousness and his relaxation, one imagines a good dose of work, to some to judge by the evolution of his style, the abundance of its personages, its new creations and projects. Its "Fafinettes" do me to think about the Holly Hobbies a lot of wisdom of my childhood that would have turned to the sauce Ate, robbed the cosmetic ray of a big store before to mislead in the pages of a very naughty magazine. One promises us nevertheless with MAC that the customers must not feel obliged of some to arrive there! "

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Re: Fafi & MAC collaboration discussion
some of the colours look great... and i can't wait to see the packaging up close!

i'm not sure if i'd go for a palette, even with the artwork. I think i'm more likely to pick up an iridescent powder.

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Re: Fafi & MAC collaboration discussion
I'm impressed so far. The lipcolors look really bold and that's what I would really like to experiment with in the Spring!!
I 'm also excited about the Campaign. Hopefully ( crossing fingers) they will have post cards to go with the collection, I would frame them.

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The postcards for this are going to be KILLER (and surely not available in the US)
I don't like the style of artwork at all personally, but I do like the quads having mirrors in them!

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I can't wait to get my hands on the rest of it!!

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