"The Originals" discussion

[dangerousmuffins]

I don't understand. I only recognize, e/s wise, Parrot and Clue. The rest of the shadows, I have never heard of them. I have a list of 682 MAC shadows. I thought I had the full list, maybe not.
Did they change the names, maybe??? Because there was an Ochre long ago, but now there is an Ochre Style?? Same thing with Folie???Hmmm..........


I'm very disappointed in this collection. I had such high hopes for them bringing back some really older pretty items.

[mjalomo]

I don't understand this collection. Every lipstick (except Rozz Revival) sounds like an update of a current lipstick. The lipglasses (except avarice) also match up with current shades on the pro site. The pigments are all current shades. The eyeshadows are very different names than the existing shades (with the exception of ochre, parrot, and folie) all sound new. Hmmm... I certainly hope we are not just getting slightly improved versions of what we can already buy.

[starangel2383]

i think the only thing i may get is one of the lipsticks because i dont have it and i have seen it on others and it looks great on them. so russian red may be the only thing i get and i will just look at everything else because my curiousity is peaked just barely. i have parrot and like others i barely have touched it but that might change, i have been playing some more lately with different looks.

[me_jelly]

For some reason I'm really dissappointed with the collection - like mentioned already, a lot of the stuff are still present in the current collection. I understand some have been around for quite a while and have done well, but still, I was hoping they'd bring back beloved LE items. Oh well.

[Aprilrobin]

Wow... I want... nothing.

That's OK, it's not like there aren't a bajillion other collections coming out in the next few months!

[SMMY]

Yes, I'm so disappointed. I might check some of the eye shadows but that's about it. Oh well, saved a bunch of green.

[xbrookecorex]

All aboard the failboat.
Hmm, what color is Clue?

[lah_knee]

actually all the lipsticks that sound like current colors, are different from the ones we have. the lipsticks will all be lustres. except russian red and sandy b. and the colors are slightly different in tone than the orignal ones. utter pervette was wayyy prettier. and so was twig twig or whatever it was called.

also the shadows are better textured. the colors are a little different, like this folie is wayyy prettier. its like beautyburst. and this nico is wayyy prettier than the nasty nico we have. its more mauve and has no chunky ugly glitter in it. lol

parrot is the still the exact same color it was before though.

[anita22]

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Originally Posted by xbrookecorex

All aboard the failboat.
Hmm, what color is Clue?

There's a pic of it up on Makeup Alley, it looks a bit like vex or crystal in the pan.. I've no idea how accurate that is though.

[AudreyNicole]

:scratches head: Hmmm, maybe some of these colors are older colors brough back with different names (i.e. Parrot/Kicky (not kinky ) Blue)? Hopefully they were just renamed!

[mjalomo]

So this isn't so much a "lets bring back the favorites" collection. It is more of a "let's fix the not so good product we are currently selling or have sold you" collection. I think reformulating shoudn't be neccessary. MAC needs to start taking more time to formulate product so that we have a quaity product. I am tired of hearing their new product is more pigmentd than what I own. I want great product in every collection. The fact that MAC has this outpouring of product troubles me.

[foxyqt]

what about the 'Authentics' collection coming out at Macy's? its coming out the same day {12/26} as the Originals.. are these the same? o.O

[BlahWah]

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Originally Posted by AudreyNicole

:scratches head: Hmmm, maybe some of these colors are older colors brough back with different names (i.e. Parrot/Kinky Blue)? Hopefully they were just renamed!

I think you mean Kicky Blue?

I don't know why that made me laugh so much, but it's a great start to my day and I won't complain!

[AudreyNicole]

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Originally Posted by BlahWah

I think you mean Kicky Blue?

I don't know why that made me laugh so much, but it's a great start to my day and I won't complain!

Ok, I am as red-faced as it gets here now. My appologies, MAJOR type-o! I swear, I am not a gutter minded individual

[HOTasFCUK]

Wow what a disappointing collection! I don't want a single thing!!! I thought we get some really holy grail LE items like pigments or msf's.....

[garnetmoon]

as a new comer to MAC (just started w/ the BLM campaign) i really thought i would have the opportunity to pick up some of the older rare colors i missed out on in the past. unfortunately this is not the case...i'm VERY disappointed and at MAC it's seems like there was hype for nothing. well at least i can get Parrot now. out side of that i don't think i want anything else. oh well back to ebay for me

[princess]

This is really disappointing. NO MSFs at all? Come on, where are the MSFs!!!

[bartp]

I don’t want to cast any doubt Juneplum’s information… but these things came to mind for me:
- the list is big… this would mean that the collection is almost larger than a Nordstrom Novel Twist for example.
- it makes me wonder :if the forum users would make a poll and there own list, what would we bring together???
- if we sound dissappointed at the list.. I’m just wondering if any MAC manager would read this, take note of it and change the list :-)
- knowing MAC and how they like to make a big thing of things.. I would have expected a huge internet poll. Can you see us Mac Fans rallying up support for our favorite products!!!! I can see the voting frenzy now
- anyone want to join my study group so we can figure out what product comes from what collection??? I’ll sponsor the coffee and the doughnuts
- one last things… what strikes me is that we don’t yet know any details about collections like Antiquitease (no color names or descriptions) and yet they already spill information about The Originals.
- if you ask me, MAC is better at innovating than at repromoting.

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Originally Posted by Juneplum

well, i just came back from seeing my ma's update book and i'm a little disappointed with the colors coming back in the originals.. i didn't get a chance to write all of them down but NO skinfinishes are being released with the collection..what they wanted to do is bring back some of the original colors from when MAC first started kinda like a back to our roots collection.. from what i remember it will be:

shadows
pigments
lipsticks
lipglasses
eyeliners
blush

i wrote down a few things:

shadows:
parrot
ochre style
a little folie
daisychain
memorabilia
clue
alum
charred
frisco

pigments:
kitschmas
violet
melon
golden olive
steel blue

lipsticks
sandy b.
rozz revival
chintz on chintz
russian red
twig twig
super sequin
nouveau frou
retro fluid
back to del rio
utter pervette



lipgloss
c-thru
full on lust
avarice
real desire
nico now

honestly, i stopped writing cos i was sad no skinfinishes
i'll get the full list with descriptions this weekend and post it..

[lian_qiu]

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Originally Posted by bartp

I don’t want to cast any doubt Juneplum’s information… but these things came to mind for me:
- the list is big… this would mean that the collection is almost larger than a Nordstrom Novel Twist for example.
- it makes me wonder :if the forum users would make a poll and there own list, what would we bring together???
- if we sound dissappointed at the list.. I’m just wondering if any MAC manager would read this, take note of it and change the list :-)
- knowing MAC and how they like to make a big thing of things.. I would have expected a huge internet poll. Can you see us Mac Fans rallying up support for our favorite products!!!! I can see the voting frenzy now
- anyone want to join my study group so we can figure out what product comes from what collection??? I’ll sponsor the coffee and the doughnuts
- one last things… what strikes me is that we don’t yet know any details about collections like Antiquitease (no color names or descriptions) and yet they already spill information about The Originals.
- if you ask me, MAC is better at innovating than at repromoting.
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- I think it means sense to make this collection big, since the idea is very new and it's nothing like the stuff we had (ie: spring, fall, holiday collections etc)
- MAC probably determined the popularity of products by looking at sales records. Which items sell the most and fastest? It's way cheaper than doing a survey/poll.
- I think the reason they didn't want to release too much info on the holiday stuff, coz they want to maximise the initial "shock" effect when it's released. ie: "wow, that looks so pretty, I have to have it", but after you really think about, u probably realize it's not worth the money or u don't really need it.
- My theory for releasing the info on the originals collection early is probably they want to build up the hype around all the products we WANT to get repromoted. I mean look how crazy people got over Parrot and certain MSFs and pigments.

HTH

[lian_qiu]

Also, I thought there was going to be blushes in this collection. Can anyone confirm this please? Thanks

[MAC_Whore]

I will reserve my judgement on this until I see it. It is so hard to tell until you see it in person. Until you feel and experience the products.

It seems to me that they are taking older colours and applying new technologies that may not have been realized or developed at the time of their original release to make them a better product. I am looking forward to seeing it.

MAC's raison d'etre is trend and this collection is mimicing what trends do. Trends often resurface, but are never really the same. They are reinvented. MAC is reinventing these colours to reflect a current feel (plus the benefit of better "technology" if you will).

I know for some it is disappointing, but for others who missed out the first time, it is a gold mine (pardon the eye shadow pun).

So many have been gagging for Parrot to come back. IMO, we asked and they listened. I'm thankful for that. (I'm also thankful that all of the vultures on ebay can no longer sell Parrot for $75).

I think the Rozz Revival sounds like it could be a Rizzo revamped. God, I hope so.

I know there aren't any skinfinishes, but we are due for some in Late Dec/Early Jan if their collection release pattern holds true. So hang tight and give The Originals a chance.

[Twinkle_Twinkle]

Again, where are the blushes for this collection?

[Randy Rose]

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Originally Posted by mjalomo

So this isn't so much a "lets bring back the favorites" collection. It is more of a "let's fix the not so good product we are currently selling or have sold you" collection. I think reformulating shoudn't be neccessary. MAC needs to start taking more time to formulate product so that we have a quaity product. I am tired of hearing their new product is more pigmentd than what I own. I want great product in every collection. The fact that MAC has this outpouring of product troubles me.

That's all well and good, but you can't have it both ways. "Reformulating shouldn't be necessary," but you want them to "start taking more time to formulate the product." It's not like MAC has spent the past 23 years making shoddy products and they just suddenly decided to get their act together and fix all the things they did wrong. They've been constantly improving their products. Would you rather they leave quality where it is and cease to innovate?

[melliquor]

I think the collection is completely disappointing. The piggies... we can get most of those colours already if not all of them. For the eyeshadows, i have never heard of any of them except for Parrot and I already have it. Mac could have really outdone themselves with this collection. I am so pissed off right now at Mac.

I wanted piggies like All Girl, Coco, Deckchair, Coco Beach and the older d/c ones.

[MACForME]

I totally agree with MAC_Whore's post. And its true that people are vultures when it comes to things like Parrot or Pleasureflush etc. I've been using MAC a really-long-time..and things really do seem to keep showing up, its just a matter of time.