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Divacei · 03-01-2009, 08:12 PM #1 (**permalink**)

I found this information out on the Peta website. I can't believe it! The eyelash curler is amazing, the eyeshadows are beyond pigmented, but I am currently very disappointed. And to think that they still test on animals. Please discuss-will this make you buy Shu Umera products less? I really like them, but after I found this out I was like

. So I don't know. I really hate animal testing and thinks its just a stupid alternative for cheap companies who don't care about the customer and all they care about is money. Because apparently animal testing saves money. But so what? They already have semi-expensive products.

Hilly · 03-01-2009, 08:13 PM #2 (**permalink**)

That's horrible!

blindpassion · 03-01-2009, 08:16 PM #3 (**permalink**)

I won't purchase or use any products that are tested on animals. Period.

I urge everyone else to do the same.

Rabbits are a big part of animal testing (as well as many other animals of course) and as a mommy of two little bunnies, I can't imagine supporting a company that would choose to harm anything or anyone.

Divacei · 03-01-2009, 08:18 PM #4 (**permalink**)

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Originally Posted by Hilly

That's horrible!

I know.

I'm beyond disappointed. I'm just glad most brands don't.... MAC, Clinique, every brand at Sephora, don't test on animals.

I also found out every brand at drugstores test on animals except Wet N' Wild, Organic Physicians Formula, and maybe NYX/NYC... but thats all I know of..

Its so out. I'm mean, its lame and not worth it. Animals have feelings too, and they can feel pain. =/

Hilly · 03-01-2009, 08:19 PM #5 (**permalink**)

Breaks my heart to think about it. They can test makeup on me!

Divacei · 03-01-2009, 08:20 PM #6 (**permalink**)

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Originally Posted by blindpassion

I won't purchase or use any products that are tested on animals. Period.

I urge everyone else to do the same.

Rabbits are a big part of animal testing (as well as many other animals of course) and as a mommy of two little bunnies, I can't imagine supporting a company that would choose to harm anything or anyone.

I agree 100%. I think its wrong, cruel, and pointless. I found out over 100 animals die a minute from animal testing. =/

pdtb050606 · 03-01-2009, 09:21 PM #7 (**permalink**)

Dior is @ Sephora and I thought they tested on animals?

MissResha · 03-01-2009, 09:38 PM #8 (**permalink**)

glad i dont own any

TISH1124 · 03-01-2009, 09:39 PM #9 (**permalink**)

I don't own any and shame on you Shu!

Mabelle · 03-01-2009, 09:41 PM #10 (**permalink**)

i've never bought from Shu Umera, but has considered it. I thought well of this brand. Now i will not even consider them.

Disgusting.

blindpassion · 03-01-2009, 10:18 PM #11 (**permalink**)

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Originally Posted by pdtb050606

Dior is @ Sephora and I thought they tested on animals?

Christian Dior is on Petas list of companys that DO NOT test

Vixxan · 03-01-2009, 10:27 PM #12 (**permalink**)

I will not purchase from any company that test on animals. That's just wrong!!!!

panda0410 · 03-01-2009, 10:28 PM #13 (**permalink**)

Ugh... PETA again... these people are sensationalists and a lot of their info is hype....

As for testing on animals I TOTALLY agree!!! But we need to be aware that there are MANY companies that play pedantic with "animal testing"... for example there are plenty that dont test their products on animals BUT they DO test their ingredients.... and its prefectly legal for them to say they dont test on animals in that regard. You'd be suprised at which companies do that.

Consumers need to be aware that items they are purchasing may well have had the ingredients tested on animals, and at some almost ALL ingredients were tested on animals at one point - regardless of who did it and which companies are currently using them now.

blindpassion · 03-01-2009, 10:35 PM #14 (**permalink**)

^ Thats very true and fair, and its impossible to stay away from all products tested on animals, because a lot of the time that information is not out there for the public. But as a consumer you can be aware of whats going on with the products you purchase and do your own research - it doesn't have to be peta. It's important that everyone is proactive in helping insure the safety of animals and our planet.

pdtb050606 · 03-02-2009, 12:40 AM #15 (**permalink**)

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Originally Posted by blindpassion

Christian Dior is on Petas list of companys that DO NOT test

Where did you find that? I was on Peta's site under "caring consumer" and I couldn't find that...also does anyone know about Jemma Kidd products? I also can't find that on either list??

blindpassion · 03-02-2009, 12:53 AM #16 (**permalink**)

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Originally Posted by pdtb050606

Where did you find that? I was on Peta's site under "caring consumer" and I couldn't find that...also does anyone know about Jemma Kidd products? I also can't find that on either list??

I have the Adobe file saved my computer that I refer to every time I go shopping

Just google "companies that do/ do not test on animals" and you should find an updated list.

sharkbytes · 03-02-2009, 01:04 AM #17 (**permalink**)

That's so messed up. I have a shu eyelash curler (which I sincerely hope couldn't be tested on animals, wtf it's an eyelash curler!) but I will not purchase or use any of their products now that I know this. It seems like a small step, but the only way regular people can make big companies listen is with their wallets and pocketbooks.

Sorry Shu...to the left with you

panda0410 · 03-02-2009, 01:05 AM #18 (**permalink**)

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Originally Posted by blindpassion

^ Thats very true and fair, and its impossible to stay away from all products tested on animals, because a lot of the time that information is not out there for the public. But as a consumer you can be aware of whats going on with the products you purchase and do your own research - it doesn't have to be peta. It's important that everyone is proactive in helping insure the safety of animals and our planet.

Absolutely

Many of the companies advertising no animal testing are splitting hairs.... I personally dont see the distinguishment between not testing finished products as opposed to not testing ingredients... its a manipulation of the fact and thats my my primary contention. L'Oreal who owns Lancome and Maybelline are prob the most common offenders of the fence line between the two variables.

I encourage everyone to do their own research. When it comes to PETA I take anything they publish with a very large grain of salt

But there are plenty of other valid information sources that are both a little more transparent and factual.

smith130 · 03-02-2009, 01:30 AM #19 (**permalink**)

I really dont feel anyway about animal testing but I do remember the red fox fur lashes that Jennifer Lopez wore, so this doesnt come as a huge shock.

wishingforsn0w · 03-07-2009, 04:15 AM #20 (**permalink**)

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Originally Posted by blindpassion

I won't purchase or use any products that are tested on animals. Period.

I urge everyone else to do the same.

Rabbits are a big part of animal testing (as well as many other animals of course) and as a mommy of two little bunnies, I can't imagine supporting a company that would choose to harm anything or anyone.

i TOTALLY agree. i looove animals, bunnies and guinea pigs (they also test a lot of products on them) included and absolutely hate the idea of using cosmetics that have been tested on animals. i completely cut out all of the cosmetics i buy from that test on animals.. which really was NOT easy, especially for hair products and necessities like toothpaste, but i managed and am much happier for it. now i only use organic or vegan products, which sometimes may cost more, but at least i know my money isnt going towards supporting horrible companies (damn you, proctor and gamble!) that kill thousands of poor innocent animals.
I used to really love shu umara, shiseido, guerlain, givenchy.. but after i found out they test on animals i stopped buying their stuff. seriously, youd think they wouldve moved on from animal testing and found alternative testing methods by now.. its not like were still in the medieval ages after all.

Chelle1476 · 03-14-2009, 06:12 PM #21 (**permalink**)

This is for everyone who's interested in animal testing and products out of the EU. In 2005, the EU passed a bill prohibiting animal testing by 2009. So by this year, all of our favorite products will be available to us animal lovers because the companies are being forced to make the humane change!!! Also, according to Dior's website, they do not test. Just an FYI...

mollyloretta · 03-18-2009, 03:07 PM #22 (**permalink**)

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Originally Posted by panda0410

Ugh... PETA again... these people are sensationalists and a lot of their info is hype....

As for testing on animals I TOTALLY agree!!! But we need to be aware that there are MANY companies that play pedantic with "animal testing"... for example there are plenty that dont test their products on animals BUT they DO test their ingredients.... and its prefectly legal for them to say they dont test on animals in that regard. You'd be suprised at which companies do that.

Consumers need to be aware that items they are purchasing may well have had the ingredients tested on animals, and at some almost ALL ingredients were tested on animals at one point - regardless of who did it and which companies are currently using them now.

Hooray! Someone else who does research :-)

I recently posted on my blog about animal testing, and regulations on whether or not you can claim your ingredient was, or was not, tested on animals. Realistically, there is none, there's no legal definition to it, thus no regulation. Any company can say they don't test on animals, but it doesn't mean it's true, and it's actually very unlikely as to whether or not their ingredients were tested on animals.

I'm going to copy and paste the following directly from my entry:

I figured I’d get this out of the way now, because that PETA list always bothers me. Many companies are not on the list, because they don’t claim to say that their ingredients were not tested on animals, because for the most part, many companies don’t know. (L’Oreal for example does not test the finished product on animals, but it doesn’t say the ingredients on the way to getting there weren’t because they’re not sure — as written to me by a L’Oreal rep.)

This is straight from the FDA/CFSAN website.

“Some cosmetic companies promote their products with claims such as ‘CRUELTY-FREE’ or ‘NOT TESTED ON ANIMALS’ in their labeling or advertising. The unrestricted use of these phrases by cosmetic companies is possible because there are no legal definitions for these terms.

Some companies may apply such claims solely to their finished cosmetic products. However, these companies may rely on raw material suppliers or contract laboratories to perform any animal testing necessary to substantiate product or ingredient safety. Other cosmetic companies may rely on combinations of scientific literature, non-animal testing, raw material safety testing, or controlled human-use testing to substantiate their product safety.

Many raw materials, used in cosmetics, were tested on animals years ago when they were first introduced. A cosmetic manufacturer might only use those raw materials and base their “cruelty-free” claims on the fact that the materials or products are not ‘currently’ tested on animals.”

Maybe “no new testing on animals” is a more accurate claim, eh?

For more information on the FDA/CFSAN, please visit their website at U.S. FDA / Center for Food Safety and Applied Nutrition. Unfortunately, any company can claim to be cruelty-free; there’s no regulations or law about it because as stated above, there are no legal definitions of these terms.