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Old 06-06-2009, 02:03 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Re: Shu Umera Tests on Animals!
Personally, i think if someone cut out makeup brands that tested on animals from their collection, they would be reduced to smearing dirt on their eyes lol Like many have said before, a company can say they dont test on animals, but they still use ingrediants that ARE.
It may seem insensitive, but i dont mind either way.

Especially because this info comes from PETA, an organization i despise (not because they are animal activists, but because one of the leaders actually uses medication that were tested on animals, which makes them also hypocrytical)

I completely respect those of you who chose not to use brands that test on animals, more power to you

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Old 06-06-2009, 04:55 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Re: Shu Umera Tests on Animals!
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Especially because this info comes from PETA, an organization i despise (not because they are animal activists, but because one of the leaders actually uses medication that were tested on animals, which makes them also hypocrytical)
Their vice president who has diabetes uses insulin products that have been tested on animals. Many people have brought that up to her and she swears they currently are not testing so this doesn't affect her using the products....before she stated that she needed to remain healthy to keep saving so many animals' lives so she had to overlook this.

I used to volunteer through summers on their Street Team recruiting people at Vans Warped Tours and even my college campus. I loved the sticker package they sent me to plaster my schools' bulletin boards for club activities.....almost got me and 2 of my friends kicked out of school because you had to have permission to post anything there. Yay! my psychology teacher at the time saw us stickering and reported us to Campus Safety which led to a meeting with the Dean of the school. My friends and I pretty much got a raw deal from their security after that so we've bumped heads here and there for being a little loud on campus.

Guess I agree with panda on this one, that company is equal to nil because the tactics they pull to get followers is horrendous. "Save #99" lured me in because of the repeated videos they showed of monkeys being tested on for cosmetic companies. That whole group is full of fanatics or vegans being told they're doing right by forcing materials and pamphlets down peoples' throats. When they break a story, look at another source as well because they will embelish the truth to lure new people to the street team or get their e-mail to sign various petitions. Thank you panda because that "organization" wasted 2 years of my time and almost jeopardized me attending CCBC.

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Re: Shu Umera Tests on Animals!
This is the inconvenient truth about cosmetics. Unfortunately this still goes on, everyone here hit the nail on the head. There is no regulations for this, and most companies outsource their ingredients from companies that do test on animals. The final product may not be tested, but i am sure at least 2 of the ingredients have been.

If you check the Cosmeticsdatabase.com they list products with harmful ingredients that have caused certain reactions in animals. which only stand to reason that these ingredients have been tested on animals.
And these ingredients are in almost all cosmetics.

So it is very hard to actually find a line that truly does not test and or use ingredients that don't.

I actually respect Shu more for being up front about it and not hiding it or sneaking through loopholes like most other lines. Do I think animal testing is right? course not.. Like others have said steps are being taken to ban it. But for now it is just a truth of this business and has been going on for decades.

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Re: Shu Umera Tests on Animals!
Im not strictly against animal testing because I don't see anyone suggesting any alternatives. I love my cat as much as the next person but i don't want to see homeless people being tested on either or worse developing foetus'. I'm not ok with animal testing but I can't see any other alternative so for the time being with me, i have to settle with an uncomfortable uneasiness.
I'm sooo glad mac brushes are cruelty-free. I hope more companies follow in their lead.

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Old 06-26-2009, 02:14 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Their vice president who has diabetes uses insulin products that have been tested on animals. Many people have brought that up to her and she swears they currently are not testing so this doesn't affect her using the products....before she stated that she needed to remain healthy to keep saving so many animals' lives so she had to overlook this.

I used to volunteer through summers on their Street Team recruiting people at Vans Warped Tours and even my college campus. I loved the sticker package they sent me to plaster my schools' bulletin boards for club activities.....almost got me and 2 of my friends kicked out of school because you had to have permission to post anything there. Yay! my psychology teacher at the time saw us stickering and reported us to Campus Safety which led to a meeting with the Dean of the school. My friends and I pretty much got a raw deal from their security after that so we've bumped heads here and there for being a little loud on campus.

Guess I agree with panda on this one, that company is equal to nil because the tactics they pull to get followers is horrendous. "Save #99" lured me in because of the repeated videos they showed of monkeys being tested on for cosmetic companies. That whole group is full of fanatics or vegans being told they're doing right by forcing materials and pamphlets down peoples' throats. When they break a story, look at another source as well because they will embelish the truth to lure new people to the street team or get their e-mail to sign various petitions. Thank you panda because that "organization" wasted 2 years of my time and almost jeopardized me attending CCBC.
their tactics obviously work then.
it's been said numerous times that the reason they use such tactics is to get peoples attention-becuase tapping someone on the back offering information doesn't work anymore. a veggie/vegan isn't going to stop being veggie/vegan because PETAs tactics are wrong, because they already know it's moraly wrong. while i disagree with SO MANY of their ads, i understand their use of these ads. it's just to get peoples attention.

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Re: Shu Umera Tests on Animals!
i dont care if it violates human right, murders and rapists should be the test subjects. Imo, you should have no rights once you decided to take a persons life. Why should an innocent little animal be tortured because the market wants bigger and longer lashes?

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Re: Shu Umera Tests on Animals!
I was just wondering.. Where does it say that Shu Uemura tests on animals?

I just checked on PETA.org, CaringConsumer.com, NAVS.org websites, Paula Begoun, "Don't go to the cosmetics counter w/o me" book and none of them have Shu Uemura listed under "Companies That Do Test on Animals"..

This may be related to the fact that L'Oreal owns them.. L'Oreal states that they have been animal friendly since 1989, but there's still some debate..

Here are a few highlights of other L'Oreal owned companies: Kérastase • Redken • Matrix • Garnier • Maybelline New York • Lancôme • Biotherm • Kiehl's • Shu Uemura • YSL Beauté • Giorgio Armani Parfums and Cosmetics • Ralph Lauren Fragrances • Diesel Fragrances • The Body Shop

All of these companies are missing on the PETA.org website. Probably due to the same association.

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i've never bought from Shu Umera, but has considered it. I thought well of this brand. Now i will not even consider them.

Disgusting.
Ditto. i was thinking to buy the lash curler but not anymore.

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Re: Shu Umera Tests on Animals!
Oh God. If that is true, I'll never buy Shu again. I can't believe there are still companies out there doing this. I mean I know that a few cheap drugstore brands do them because they're just after the money, but their products are cheap too, so i guess they kinda 'make it up to the customers' (I don't belong to those though >_>), but Shu? They test their stuff on animals AND sell it for a ridiculous price. Does that even make sense? I don't nessecarily have a problem with the price being so high, but ,I'd have expected better from Shu Uemura (if it's true that is).

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I found this information out on the Peta website. I can't believe it! The eyelash curler is amazing, the eyeshadows are beyond pigmented, but I am currently very disappointed. And to think that they still test on animals. Please discuss-will this make you buy Shu Umera products less? I really like them, but after I found this out I was like . So I don't know. I really hate animal testing and thinks its just a stupid alternative for cheap companies who don't care about the customer and all they care about is money. Because apparently animal testing saves money. But so what? They already have semi-expensive products.
What a shame!!!!

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