Pigment jars getting smaller; prices staying the same

Re: MAC pigments starting to come with less product for the same price?

They did it with the Overrich pigments as well and there was talk that MAC was scrapping the 7.5gm pigments for smaller volumes, though not sure if the packaging was supposed to chnage or not

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the price should be lowered since we get less product!! they just want our money!

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i'm not actually bothered. mainly because i've never once used up a jar of pigment so it doesn't bother me if there is slightly less product. i guess it's the principle of the thing about the price but i'm just kinda meh about it!

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This is also true for the eye kohls, they have gone from 1.45g to 1.36g...yeah, not a profound difference, but cheeky nonetheless considering the recent price hikes

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Edited by User27 - 7/23/11 at 3:42pm

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this is disapointing! I just ordered vanilla... I am hoping that they still have some of the 7.5g ones in stock!

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Edited by User27 - 7/23/11 at 3:44pm

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I would have bought it at a store/counter, but the closest one is 8hrs away.. I think i am going to take your advice and call MAC on Monday morning.. I'll ask them if they have pulled all the old stock or whatnot.. If they tell me that it will forsure be a 4.3g jar, I may cancel my order....

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first off, one is a pigment, and one is a glitter, sooo...different products, different WEIGHTS!!!

these are measured by weight, not volume. mattes are gonna weigh different than frosts are gonna weigh different than glitters. the volume could be the exact same for all we know (it should if things were fair in this world, but they aren't), but their weights are different.

one cup of milk is the same as one cup of cream, but the cream's gonna weigh more. get it?

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^^^the regular site has em all listed at 4.3, and so does the category of regular products on the pro site. However, under pro products its still listed as 7.5 so it may be a glitch. And most, but not all pro mattes have been 4.3, with just a handful at the larger weight.

I doubt they'll mess with the glitters, because the the weight hasn't changed, the price did go up by $4 or $5, so that parts taken care of.

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Edited by User27 - 7/23/11 at 3:46pm

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I was thinking the same thing.. at first i thought maybe it was just for this collection, and that possibly the formulas used weren't as heavy so they lowered the weight and we would still receive roughly the same volume... but I'm kinda confused as to what is going on... On the Canadian MAC Site, when you click on the MAKE-UP ART COSMETICS COLLECTION link as seen by MARILYN MINTER, and then click on the Pigment link, it lists the size as 7.5g.. But if you browse to the regular pigment section by using Products Menu, it lists the size as 4.3g..

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Well I guess here's one way to tell once and for all. My cocomotion (from the very first release) is 7.5. Has anyone bought this year's release? What's the weight on it?

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When the richmetal pigments came out they were 4.3 and everyone threw a fit over that, so they had updated the site to show both weights, so who knows what is up with the site.

I have yet to be told that they are changing the weight/packaging/anything with the pigments.

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There have been lots of rumours flying around about pigments recently, like which colours are being Dcd, that in some locations ALL pigments are being Dcd, weights changing, packaging changing.... I dont know whats real or not

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i'll try to remember to ask for an official word when i go to update next month.

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My brand new cocomotion (just got it in gratis) is 7.5... and remember some of the older matte pigments are 2.5...

also keep in mind regarding weight...the metal pigments which are all 7.5 (except silver which is 2.5) never come full to the top...the cream vs milk is actually a really good example

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^^^oops, I meant 2.5 for the mattes, not 4.3 (or whatever it was). thanks doll!

Well I guess that helps clarify things a little as to anything. That's already been done. If your new one is the same weight as my old one...

Have you heard anything about any changes being made to the pigments packaging?

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well I am not sure about the weights......But I bought Cocomotion and Heritage Rouge and obviously Heritage Rouge is heavier if this is the case because it was filled to the rim and Cocomotion had a lot of empty top space..I have noticed this in several of my pigments ...not glitters because I don't buy glitters...I have even looked at one in the store and it was way low and she grabbed me another of the same color and it was to the rim...

I think...MY OPINION because I worked in a cosmetic mfg facility all my adult life...they just aren't getting all filled to specifications...every lot is spotted checked...so if you are running say 10,000 pigments on a line...Every random 100-200 they will pull and check one or two ...if they pull one that is right the line keeps moving...if they pull one that is low...they pull that one and notify the line to make sure they are filling them to the right level they do not weigh every jar trust me...it is a visual eye check and they do not go back and look at every jar....If this was done the cost of a pigment would be outrageous...because it would take days to fill 100 jars

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no problem

I haven't heard a peep just the info on here...I hope they don't change the packaging...I like all my pigments looking the same.

I'll ask @ update too...see if we can get the same story lol.

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I called MACcosmetics customer service this morning to inquire about pigment fill levels. She physicially checked the inventory for me.. The vanilla pigment containers that they have at the moment are 7.5g. She checked a Brash and Bold and it was 4.3g. She compared the two and said that both are filled towards the top of the jars, so the volumes are about the same.

She indicated that they have not yet received any notice that the fill weights are going to be changing. I explained the discrepency on the website, and she is not sure if they are changing the fill volume on all future produced stock, or if it is just an error on the site and only some pigments that are lighter in weight are filled with 4.3g (but are still the same amount volumewise). She said that she would look into it and see if she could find anything out.

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I just purchased a pink opal pigment from macpro.com, batch code A69, and it is 7.5g on the jar and just as full as ever.

Certain matte and metal pigments arent 7.5g, same goes for glitters, but this one is exactly the same in weight, fullness, and quality as all my older pigments.

I have noticed that brash and bold/push the edge are of a different formula that is far less dense than normal pigments.. much more akin to the 2.5g matte formulas, so perhaps thats why we're seeing the lower weights?

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yah, i don't think mac's lowering the quantity of their pigments either. remember Milk pigment released with hello kitty? it was 7.5g, and definitely made after overrich pigments.

ps: knowing mac, if they do decide to lower the weight, they'll probably use a new container that's twice as big with really thick walls, so people would think they are getting more product

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Pigment jars getting smaller; prices staying the same

Can anyone confirm this? Down from 7.5 g to 4.5 g but no price reduction!

You can see this livejournal post:
mac_cosmetics: New Pigment jars

I first saw it on Zoffe's blog:

Zoffe's makeup: New MAC pigment jars

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I mentioned that I saw the new jars at mac pro yesterday in the other thread, all races ages and sexes collection and they're like miniture mac nail polishes..I'm currently making my own list .. wanted pigments so I can can buy the older jars from the CCO.

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Sales of pigments will probably tank and sample sellers are going to have to raise prices so high noone will want to buy

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This is such a disaster. I am beside myself. I keep hoping maybe if enough people complain they will change them back but some how I doubt it. Won't hurt to write about it though.