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great idea!

Going into the "winter" here in south Florida isn't too much different than the summer. There is less humidity but that's about it. The weather for the most part stays the same. However when my skin is feeling a bit dry I turn to Embryolisse. The Lait-Creme Concentrate. A little goes a long way. Maybe this product will help you out HG. My question pertains to eyecreams. I'm 35 and I've yet to see any lines and or furrowing in my skin, However I dint want to wait for that to happen to start adding a eye cream/serum to my skin care routine. Any suggestions out there.I would say I have normal to combination skin that's oily on the lids.

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^ cool.  ty.

 

ok, I  flew for 14 hours yesterday and got off an airplane with dehydrated skin and stiff hair. lol.

 

what did I use to recover some softness for my skin?  I am now using the EL Advanced serum for face and also the one for eyes, the Clarins super restorative night cream and my Clarins orchidee bleu oils.

 

I can highly recommend the Clarins cream, which is labelled as "mature", read menopausal skin because I have had  younger women try it with great success since it is targeted for menstrual cycles too.  Start taking care of skin in your 20's and you will have great skin in your 40's... don't wait till you're 35 and then run around trying to figure out how to repair it.

 

For those of you who like to set your mu with Fix, try using the Avene thermal water.. it does the same job and you get a lot more product for the price.. plus the spray nozzle is marriage worthy!

 

anyone have any products or home remedies for dehydrated skin?  we are going into fall/winter !

this is a wonderful thread so i have moved it to the asked and answered section so more people will see it and check in :) I also love Clarins! I suffer from very dry skin in teh winter months and i swear by the hydra quench range. i love the serum to give me a nice moisture boost at night and the cream to use morning and evening. They do three versions of the cream too for different skin types and climates too :) 

i shall be 27 this month (welcome to late twenties!) and i have been looking after my skin since i was about 13. my granny drummed it into me how important looking after your skin was so i have literally had a cleanse, tone and moisturise routine for over 10 years! so far i can't see any wrinkles or lines however i do have one line on my forhead which isn't that obvious but i think in many years to come it will.  i also have no issues with having botox when the time is right for me. i think that because i am over weight and i have a chubby face that it pads my flesh out more though. not the healthiest way to stop wrinkles coming though!!

i also have very dry hair (due to it's texture and the fact i have highlighted it for many years now) however i keep it very soft with conditioning treatments once a week. in fact sometimes i use hair masks as normal conditioner! i also don't wash my hair each day. i do it every 2-3 days to stop drying it out even more. coconut oil is also good to rub into the ends and then leave over night :)

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Originally Posted by DILLIGAF 

Going into the "winter" here in south Florida isn't too much different than the summer. There is less humidity but that's about it. The weather for the most part stays the same. However when my skin is feeling a bit dry I turn to Embryolisse. The Lait-Creme Concentrate. A little goes a long way. Maybe this product will help you out HG. My question pertains to eyecreams. I'm 35 and I've yet to see any lines and or furrowing in my skin, However I dint want to wait for that to happen to start adding a eye cream/serum to my skin care routine. Any suggestions out there.I would say I have normal to combination skin that's oily on the lids.

i have been wanting to try an eye cream for a while now too but have no idea where to start looking! some are so stupidly pricey and i really don't know if it is worth it!
 

Nice thread! Lately I am more interested in skincare and how to look better without any make up on than make up alone. So I've been trying cremes, serum etc until I find something that satisfies me. I will be 27 this month, too and I have always had a skincare routine, cleanser, toner, moisturiser, since I started using make up, more than 10 years. My mother also taught me very early the importance of sun protection and I hope it will be proved through the years... I also went through a short period of acne, it was short but it gave me problems that I had to deal with like a few small red marks on my skin that wouldn't go away no matter what product I was using. Fortunately, they faded away completely, time was the therapy. Now my skin is normal and sometimes a little dry in winter. I haven't seen any line or wrinkle so far. I hope my  somehow chubby face, although i could be called a skinny girl, will help me on that!

The last months I've been using the EL serum, Advanced Night Repair Syncronized. Recovery Complex and I can tell it is the best I've tried (as I said, I tried a lot the last year). It made my skin smooth and glowing. I use it at night and I wake up with a fresh face, something that wasn't happening before. I am also using the EL Daywear which is good but I keep looking. I think I have to try the Clarins one that was mentioned. I scrub my face once a week with a BodyShop product from the Vitamin C serie, can't remember the exact name. I'd been also using the Vitamin C night cream for a couple of years and it was also amazing, I think it did help the red marks on my skin fade, too.

I need to find an eye cream but I hesitate because I don't have any issues yet with lines but I want to prevent them if possible. And I need to do something with my crazy dry hair that is too difficult to style... It's such a trouble and I've learnt not to be bothered with most of the days!

I started taking my skincare more seriously last year, 26, I hope it is not too late! I am almost sure I'll want to have a botox when the time is right!

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Lou !! ... so nice of you to give this idea such consideration ... but I am always in flux with my skin, hair has been a constant struggle until I finally.. FINALLY let all the grey thru and now I am only getting platinum highlites around the face, but even this colour has maintence and upkeep.. and I did not know that grey hair (the actual white hair is very coarse and requires huge conditioning).  For me, the atmosphere and smokers (cough) make it take on a slight yellow cast and I am using blue/violet shampoo's and conditioners in order to keep it really silver.

 

this whole experience of letting all my grey hair be "out" has brought me a lot of changes and especially to my mu... i.e. I look weird with any ls which is too yellow.. so my lovely old corals don't work, however coral reds look spectacular.  Anything with red or pink picks up the skin for me now and it is looking lighter with this shade or hair.  We sometimes don't realize how  hair colour can affect our mu.

 

as for your regimen, it sounds perfect.. I have to really give a shout out to all Clarins creams/tonics and lotions.. they are really superb! I have been using the oils for years .. I mean like 20.. lol .. and the creams have been changing as my climactic conditions require.

 

for eye creams, I like their Super Restorative for night time .. but it is expensive!  Less expensive creams and equally hard working ones might be the Shisiedo Benefiance restructuring.. that is my day to day eye cream. I find the Neutrogena Healthy skin line has a great eye cream, and is priced right..  I also like the Exuviance line of Serums and Bionic eye cream (lol).. but it works well !!  I will put on my thinking cap and put up some other suggestions for good/and less expensive eye creams.

 

Dili, thanks for the tip on Embryollise.. I will def try it !! I did live in the south florida area which is hot, humid and full of air conditioners.. and realized then that even the air conditioning could chap my lips or make my face feel stiff.. and since then have been always on the hunt for good/ and hopefully inexpensive treatments.  I am now going to be dividing my time betwee Europe and Fla... and have to keep adjusting my skin care accordingly.

 

meanwhile... I get my botox on Monday !!  My fears of bumps have been put to rest and I am looking forward to not have the rain drip down my forehead in my little rivulet!!

 

 

Weirdly I knew that grey hairs have a more coarse texture than coloured hair... I have no idea why I knew that! Lol!  I think you should have a look into hair oils and such. I swear by them. Macadamia do a really nice one that I have used recently. Ojon oil is nice but you have to wash it out (I leave it in overnight usually) but oh my goodness it stinks! A mix of smoke and coffee - very weird and not that nice sadly! But it does work a treat!

Clarins are amazing! I swear I have never been dissapointed with any product from them :) I shall have a look into their eye cream but also check prices on the others you have mentioned - I feel like I don't want to spend a fortune but equally the eye area is pretty important!  Thanks so much for the recs!  And good luck with your botox today!!
 

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Originally Posted by Romina1 

Nice thread! Lately I am more interested in skincare and how to look better without any make up on than make up alone. So I've been trying cremes, serum etc until I find something that satisfies me. I will be 27 this month, too and I have always had a skincare routine, cleanser, toner, moisturiser, since I started using make up, more than 10 years. My mother also taught me very early the importance of sun protection and I hope it will be proved through the years... I also went through a short period of acne, it was short but it gave me problems that I had to deal with like a few small red marks on my skin that wouldn't go away no matter what product I was using. Fortunately, they faded away completely, time was the therapy. Now my skin is normal and sometimes a little dry in winter. I haven't seen any line or wrinkle so far. I hope my  somehow chubby face, although i could be called a skinny girl, will help me on that!

 

The last months I've been using the EL serum, Advanced Night Repair Syncronized. Recovery Complex and I can tell it is the best I've tried (as I said, I tried a lot the last year). It made my skin smooth and glowing. I use it at night and I wake up with a fresh face, something that wasn't happening before. I am also using the EL Daywear which is good but I keep looking. I think I have to try the Clarins one that was mentioned. I scrub my face once a week with a BodyShop product from the Vitamin C serie, can't remember the exact name. I'd been also using the Vitamin C night cream for a couple of years and it was also amazing, I think it did help the red marks on my skin fade, too.

 

I need to find an eye cream but I hesitate because I don't have any issues yet with lines but I want to prevent them if possible. And I need to do something with my crazy dry hair that is too difficult to style... It's such a trouble and I've learnt not to be bothered with most of the days!

 

I started taking my skincare more seriously last year, 26, I hope it is not too late! I am almost sure I'll want to have a botox when the time is right!

 

 

Oh i wouldn;t worry too much - it really is better late than never to get a good skin care routine going. And even if you have only taken it seriously this past year it is better than never doing so at all. And we shall be the same age so I think we have similar needs with the eye cream! I'm just trying to prevent them right now!!

Do any of you guys like facials? I used to get a re-surfacing one once a month but the cost jumped from £50 to £80!! sadly i can't afford it but I wonder if other facials would be any good? The one I used to get was the Elemis Tri Enzyme one and it was good for anti aging. My skin looked amazing after having it done (well not straight after but the following day!)
 

this is a great thread!

with regards to eye creams...i like the one from dr.hauschka...it's light yet rich in some strange way!

regarding spray hydrators - i like rose water. sometimes you can get it in a spray bottle, or you can always put it in one yourself.  it's moisturising, natural, and cheap as chips!

i don't like facials much either....generally don't trust randoms to touch my skin....but i suppose if i found a salon i liked with people i trusted, i would think about it! i don't mind doing my own facials at home, but i have to admit, it's been a good year since i've found the time to do them, so i think that's not doing me much good!

have any of you tried out boscia products? i used their pore strips, and just bought their cleansing oil -- which i like very much.  i was going to give their black mud mask a try next, but i figured i'd start with a sample from sephora because it has such a hefty price tag!!

I like the thread. I have 2 big issue I~m struggling with. 

1) Adult acne ( I clean morning & evening, use moisturizer, exfoliate & mask) But once 1 month I get 2-3 painful acne, very swollen, red-purple that takes ages to heal and leave darks spots on skin (purplish) especially on cheeks and chin. So if you know anything that would help diminish or fade away those spots I would be forever grateful. Or maybe something that helps prevent adult acne, I`m so sick of it, I`m 32 , and I have it since teenage yrs

2) Very dry spots on face during winter, I think I`ll follow your advise here and start using a serum. Do you have  any suggestion for a medium priced one that works well ?

I price more experiences from real people instead of companies marketing tips, so more experiences the merrier 

I'm 49 and still battling oily acne prone skin. Menopause has caused all kinds of wacky things with my skin, well my entire body.

I try to use my Clarisonic regularly but I tend to forget sometimes. I think it really helps with keeping my pores clean and keeping blackheads at bay. I like to use it with Paula's Choice Clear Normalizing Cleanser for blemish prone skin. This is my everyday cleanser and since I've started using it I haven't had any brekouts and helps with my oily skin overall. I use other products of hers and have been happy with the results.

In the 70's I was a sun worshiper but over the last several years I stay far far away and slather on the sunblock. And for you younger ones---DO NOT forget about your hands when it comes to sunscreen. The skin on the tops of the hands is very thin and damages easily. I keep a small tube of high spf in my bag to reapply after washing my hands and such. I am super afraid of age/sun spots. I see them on people younger than me. So I am almost obsessive about this.

For an inexpensive serum I like Olay Regenerist Fragrance-free Regenterating Serum. Eye creams tend to migrate down and make around my nose oily. I use this on my face, eyes and hands. It's good for oily skin. Also I read an article that said this is the same as their eye serum by the same name you just get more product for the price.

I also really like Clarins eye sunblock. It's one of the few that does not sting my eyes.

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HerGreyness, I'm curious to learn if you have you tried out the Baby Quasar MD (or a similar product)?

I've wondered about this product as well as the PaloVia Skin Renewng Laser.

Anyone know anything about these two items? I would like to know if they work and worth the money. They aren't cheap.

^^ I don`t have oily skin, rather normal to dry that gets dry very easy, especially in the cold season. Clarisonic it`s on my to buy list, hopefully in a couple of months

I've some slightly different recs. Let me start by saying that my mother has the most beautiful hands I've ever seen. I inherited the shape from her, and because I'm proud of them, I really take care of them. I always use lotion after washing my hands, I always carry some lotion in my handbag, but what makes my hands looking as young as hands of a twenty year old, is panthenol. When I go to bed, I always use a lotion panthenol in it which is originally used for minor wounds and scabs.

(My mother, btw, always uses every sample of eye cream, serum etc. for her hands. And apparently, this works too!)

Just my cents for keeping your hands looking smooth!

What has been helping my skin lately is a face serum with retinol by Paula's Choice.  Also, I am using sunscreen very, very regularly--all over.  I wear dark sunglasses even inside the car, but especially between the high UV hours between 10 am and 2 pm.

I really think the PC serum is working on my fine lines, definitely it cuts down the redness and dryness.  I also use her exfoliating 1% BHA gel about 3x per week which helps with the flakiness.  On the eye area, I sometimes add the Olay Regenerist eye cream with a touch of concealer.  It has some hylaluronic acid in it.  Not sure if it helps, but it doesn't hurt.  The main thing for my skin is the serum with retinol and sunscreen.

I wish I had something to use on my hands.  I am considering the AHA lotion and I would love a less expensive retinol to use on them, but I am not using my expensive face serum on them.

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romi, the serum I am using right now is the EL Advanced.. the new edition.  I find it has helped blur my spots and also given me a more refined texture.  I used to use (and still have 2 bottles stashed away)  Revive Serum.. which cost $ 600 per bottle.. ouch .. which is why I stopped using it...lol.

 

eyeshadowaddicted one, I think Olay has great products. In fact I am going to pick up the serum when I go back home.... there is also resurfacing cream which is excellent.. a good line for Serums is Aveda.  The tourmaline charged eye cream as well as the light moisturizer is excellent because they just absorb into the skin with no residue.

 

for adult acne or any type of blemish, I have used the Payot pate gris as a desicant and also to disinfect the actual blemish.  It is my miracle cream.  However there are some other products I use which are the Origins Spot remover, which is a small vial of salicylic acid to put right on the blemish.. it will shrink it, sanitize it and also decrease the size overnight.  Love this !  Also to try is the original aspirin mask.. crushing simple Bayer aspirin and making a paste with distilled water.. put it on the affected area and rinse off after 30 mins and the skin gets smoother and with smaller pores -- blemishes start to shrink too.

 

aradhna.. Dr. hauscha has some great products. I have never tried the eye cream but will look into it.  I have used the Dry oil as well as the Rose day cream which is wonderful for hot humid climates (like where I used to live).

 

Day 2 of my botox has been a real treat.. the furrow magically smoothed out and I have no bumps at the injection site also, will report that day 3 of the Ceramide capsules stolen from my mother have been a wonder treat.. they are the eye cream and are really effective on the pesky little lines formed by living life.

question for you, greyness -- with the ceramide capsules, do you end up with a lot of extra oil? and if so, what do you do with it?

i bought those capsules one time (from tkmaxx, so possibly they were dodgy), and i found that one capsule was enough for more than one application (to both eyes)...but i felt guilty about throwing the extra away! in the end it stressed me out too much, so i didn't use them much, and started to wonder if they might have gone off so i got rid of them. but hearing your good experience, maybe i will give them another shot!

HG-- I used to use the Origins Spot also. I need to pick some of that up to have on hand. It works well. There's another drying lotion I used to use also but the brand escapes me. I haven't done the asprin thing in quite some time. I do remember getting very strange looks from hubby when I had a huge white blob on my chin or wherever. His look was I won't even ask:)

Keep us posted on the Botox.

ANNERI-- I do the same thing as your mom. Since I have oily and wonky skin I use all those samples on my hands. They can withstand the moisture that would breakout my face.

Martingurl--I also use PC's Skin Balancing Super Antioxidant Mattifying Concentrate Serum w/ Retinol for oily/combo skin.  I use it as a foundation primer. It doesn't make my face oily. If I'm feeling extra oily, especially in our humid summer weather I dab on a bit of Smashbox Anti-Shine on my t-zone first. 

I also use PC's RESIST Super Antioxidant Concentrate Serum (also contains retinol) for all skin types on my neck, under my eyes and the top of my hands at night. Then I put a moisturizer like the Olay Regenerist Serum on after that has absorbed.

As for sunscreen for my face I use Neutrogena Ultra Sheer Liquid Sunblock spf 70. It absorbs nicely and doesn't break me out. I have tried over the years DDF, Murad, Peter Thomas Roth, DermaDoctor, Perricone, Shiseido, and so many more and they still made my t-zone an oil slick. I really like this and I also like that it is so cheap.
 

I use Clinique's Spf 50 cream on my hands, neck, chest and everywhere else that will be exposed.

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Originally Posted by HerGreyness 

^ thank you ! Hands are very often overlooked, and they can age very prematurely.

 

Panthenol is the word to watch then !!

This works very well on lips too - I've never had dry or chapped lips since I use panthenol cream - which is since fifteen years or so!

I also found that the panthenol cream from the pharmacy works better than the one from drugstores. Panthenol is originally used in wound healing originally, btw.

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ANNERI-- I do the same thing as your mom. Since I have oily and wonky skin I use all those samples on my hands. They can withstand the moisture that would breakout my face.

 

 

As for sunscreen for my face I use Neutrogena Ultra Sheer Liquid Sunblock spf 70. It absorbs nicely and doesn't break me out. I have tried over the years DDF, Murad, Peter Thomas Roth, DermaDoctor, Perricone, Shiseido, and so many more and they still made my t-zone an oil slick. I really like this and I also like that it is so cheap. 

I use Clinique's Spf 50 cream on my hands, neck, chest and everywhere else that will be exposed.

Because my mom's hands are so smooth, I started to think that all those serums etc really work and are not a sham!

Thank you for your rec on the Neutrogena sunblock. I'll be in Florida soon and plan to try it.

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Because my mom's hands are so smooth, I started to think that all those serums etc really work and are not a sham!

 

Thank you for your rec on the Neutrogena sunblock. I'll be in Florida soon and plan to try it.

 

My sister is 8 yrs older than me and when I saw a few sun spots on her hands about 8-10 yrs ago I took action. My sister has a pool and spends a good amount of time out there. I also don't think she puts sunblock on her hands. My husband will now and then ask me if I want to buy a boat and I say absolutely not, too much time in the sun. I spent my teen years out on lakes water skiing and tubing as my parents had a boat and so did my boyfriend's parents. So no thank you. My mother-in-law has them bad but she grew up on a farm and is 80 yrs old. 

I read in the spring (don't know if it's true) that this Neutrogena liquid sunbloc is the first of it's kind here in the US. It's the same type sold in the Asian maket which I have prdered some highly recommended some in the past. This is way cheaper and seems to work as well. You need to shake it really good. It has a little ball thingie in it that you can hear boucing around as you do.

Have fun in FL, sounds like fun. I haven't been down there in several years. We used to take our kids every summer and rent a condo in Destin for a week. I hear it has grown so much. I hope it's still as nice and family friendly. The last few years we've been going out west to CA, UT. & AZ. The national parks are beautiful but the shopping in CA is great.

Anyone who washes their hands a lot know a good water proof sunscreen?  My problem is working in a hospital I have to wash them like 10 times a day or more.  Which means a lot of reapplication for hands and carry around the sunscreen all day.

Great thread!  I am about to turn 49, but I prefer to keep my routine natural and pretty simple. Right now I wash my face twice a day, with either Aveeno Soy or Philosophy Purity and every few days I use my Clarisonic Mia. I swear by it and that it firms my skin even more, tiny lines that were starting to appear diminished, though not completely and I don't expect them to, and also helps any overly dry areas. For night I use Olay's Nigh Cream and Clinique's All About Eyes. I drink a lot of milk, never sunned myself, wear sunscreen, don't drink, don't smoke, get lots of rest.  All these, and genes, have kept me looking what I think is a lot younger than I am.  As for the grey hairs, I am presently having my hair foiled with my own natural colour to just blend away some grey that mostly shows in my bangs and framing my face, but my mother didn't go completely grey until much later in life.  I love shampoos by AG, Joico K Pak and Joico leave in conditioners and deep conditioners. My hair is fine, but lots of it and these products have kept those white hairs from getting wiry!  That is pretty much it for me right now! 

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martiangurl.. I wash my hands a LOT, but I have not been diligent about putting sunblock on my hands .. but I use a Neutrogena sunblock which is said to be fully waterproof.. it;s called WET.. and it is fabulous.  I use it cause I do swim a lot and it stays on pretty well in my estimation.  It's also easy to reapply if you need it for your hands .. and when I get back home, I will start using it on my hands.

 

Debbi.. you look fabulous ! I would not have guessed your age correctly -- you look about 10 years younger !!  Congrats !  Seems like all you are doing is working for you.. I had my hair foiled until there was more grey hair than the foilee.. lol.  then I had the years of hair insanity where I went from blonde to black and back again.. ha... and now I am all grey with more platinum white around my face.  It can look aging if you don't wear the proper mu and colours ... this is so important for grey haired women.  I recently bought Alterna bamboo products for my hair which I have yet to try (travelling a lot now, it's more difficult to keep things on an even keel).. but I also love and will always use Joico K pac.. they soothe the wild beast on my head

Yeah, my grey hair is actually snow white, so I am glad about that!  It has a pretty sheen to it!  I have a role model, though. When I was in my early 20's there was a French lady who sat in front of me at Daily Mass who was about 80 years old.  She was petite, with long white hair, always up in a neat bun, pink blush, soft pink lipstick or sometimes a pretty rose colour, gentle pastel e/s and wore some lovely floral perfume.  She was so elegant without even trying.  I want to embrace my aging process the way she did. She looked like a once upon a time ballerina or Chanel model.  I admired her so much!  Luckily I love pink and I think I will always look good in it.  And taupe and lavender e/s.  As long as I stay away from bright blues, oranges and warm reds, I seem to do okay.  Green only on occasion.  I prefer keeping it soft anyhow to bring out my olive green eyes!  Now I am going to sit in front of the mirror and imagine myself in white hair....

Yep...Pink, lilac, lavender, a pinkish rose lipstick for the brightest of colours.  Some silvery grey shadows mixed with purples....  lol