Revised Mac animal testing policy? :-(( - Page 3

Hi,

 

Not yet. I use many Bio beauty products ( So Bio Etic for example ), I pay attention to this. But as far as make-up is concerned most companies do test on animals. There is NO need to do it.

NVEY ECO is an eco-friendly brand that does not test, luxury products can be Bio as well ( price for an eyeshadow single here : around 18 € ). CHANTECAILLE doesn't use tests but prices are high ( around 80 € for a quad in France and only available in Paris ). E.L.F is eco friendly too, some Urban Decay products too, Two Faced and M.A.C for only some products.

I do use M.A.C Vegan products ( not all ), Two faced too, but I also use Chanel, Dior, Nars, Benefit, Lancôme..

China is known for cruelty against animals, most countries have blood on their hands.... Animal testing is not necessary, it must be abolished.

Sorry, must be BANNEDand all countries must abide by the law ( I do hope the law will me reinforced in France, testing on animals is prohibited here so far I know ).

I agree with the banning!!

I think Mac guys point was buying from Mac will still be supporting a company which tests on animals regardless of which country. There will be people who care to the point they refuse blank to purchase anything from Mac, I guess you can care but I'd assume the boycotters care more.

 

 

Thanks, Michaela, for articulating my thoughts more clearly.

I totally agree in terms of the fact that I am now supporting a company that tests on animals, hence funding it NO DOUBT.

However I do not think any one individual can say that the people who refuse to buy care more...

 

we all know what happens when you assume.....

MAC Cosmetics does NOT test on animals, just because the partner company Estee Lauder does. 

I work at MAC, and there has been information about this topic. If you are still unsure go to your nearest MAC store or counter and get in person verification.

 

 

Alot of us have emailed Mac and they are not responding?

I disagree. I think refusing to support something you disagree with shows you care more than people who continue to support it. But we have different opinions

No more MAC, or anything from other EL brands for me.

The writer of the blog Logical Harmony received a reply from MAC, the animal testing policy has changed.

Thanks for posting this. Here is also a link: http://www.logicalharmony.net/mac-cosmetics-is-no-longer-cruelty-free/#axzz1qWZ7rohY

Sadly, you are misinformed.

 

 

 

 

 

she just posted that smashbox changed the policy as well:(

Hi,

 

Yes M.A.C does test on animals. But some products are totally Vegan ( some blushes and Russian Red used to be, I got the answer from Vegan persons ). If you want to know if a company is Vegan or partially Vegan, browse the Vegan sites and you will have the answer very quickly. Some brands are 100 % Vegan. German brands for example ( Logona ), Us brands such as NVEY ECO is natural and prices are similar to Nars, we have So Bio Etic make-up in France, natural and safe. I do love style and elegance, I do love make-up too. When a company claims " we do not test on animals " it just means they don't on their finished products that's all in fact.

Bobbi Brown sent an email saying the same " testing only when required by law ".

In France animals are legally seen as " objects " I quote. There is much to be done, so much to change all this.

 

Do we actually know what animals are used for testing? Cats? Rabbits? Any other animals?

many companies make it very clear that they do not use ingredients that have been tested on animals prior to making the finished product(urban decay & too faced for example). that would make the brand truly free of animal testing. it doesn't really matter if a product happens to have all vegan ingredients if the company does animal testing.

But surely all ingredients in cosmetics, regardless of their source, have been tested on an animal at some point? If this is true, then the only sure-fire way to go cruelty-free would be to stop wearing makeup.

PCRM says rabbits, guinea pigs, rats and mice are most common in cosmetics testing.

just because they have been animal tested in the past doesn't mean companies have to keep testing on animals;)

agreed!!

We cant change what happened in the past, that opens a whole new can of worms....

 

Is it possible that the products tested on animals to be sold only in China? since  all the the other products were tested and sold in the rest of the world without needing the testing!

 

I'm not sure if I understand your question. Maybe you can rephrase it?

 

If a company tests products, it doesn't matter where they test and where they sell it, as long as these products are available worldwide. Have a look at the Chinese MAC site and you'll know what products are sold. The range is almost identical. http://www.maccosmetics.com.cn/cult_products/index.tmpl?CATEGORY_ID=CAT2146

This means that old and new products are (and will be) tested, as long as they are sold in China.

MAC may not test on animals but they are owned by a company who does. Just like The Body Shop is "Cruelty free" and yet is owned by L'OREAL! CONTRADICTION MUCH?! I haven't purchased anything from MAC since I found this out. It's been extremely hard but I feel it's for the best. I have higher morals & values than to cause unnecessary harm to a living creature. Has anyone tried Lush cosmetics? I have one of their color supplements and love it!

 

They do now as they sell in China, where law requires that cosmetic products are tested on animals.

Hi,

 

I am not sur that LUSH is 100 % Vegan... but it's much better than other companies. Everything is tested on animals even food for our pets, so I think we have to change everything from A to Z, which will be very long and difficult. I am not a Vegan, I am just concerned about the issue.

This is why I stopped bothering with avoiding certain companies that supposedly test. It's virtually unavoidable and impossible, IMO. (Elaboration below.)

That wasn't my point. My point is that every ingredient in cosmetics has, over the decades or whatnot they've been in existence, likely been tested on an animal. Because of this, IMO, it's virtually impossible to avoid it, even if you restrict yourself to companies with a no-testing policy (be it solely with a final product or if they claim not to source ingredients from manufacturers who engage in the practice), so the only surefire way to go cruelty-free in this regard would be to stop wearing makeup altogether. I never said or implied that companies should continue to test; in fact, I believe there's virtually no need for it now.

(That said, I am for animal testing within the medical field until/unless a better alternative comes around.)

I am against animal testing within the medical field as well. Or if there are some tests, they must be crueltry free too and non invasive. Animal testing does not improve anything. There are maybe 30 000 conditions and diseases that are human ones. I know because I am bipolar. But I am ready to ban ALL animal tests even if I suffer from my bipolar disorder. Alternatives do exist but scientists just dont' care, I care. Ok I am not willing to give up make-up for it gives me some happiness in my life, but I think I will use cruelty free make-up as much as possible, I use Bio deo, bio shower gel, bio rosewater and soap, well I'll keep acting that way.