or Connect
Specktra › Welcome to the Specktra Community! › MAC Chat  › MAC Chat › Color Collections › MAC In Extra Dimension Collection 2013 (April 2013)
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

MAC In Extra Dimension Collection 2013 (April 2013) - Page 16

post #451 of 3636
Quote:
Originally Posted by CaliMel View Post


Same here.
I hit pan on mine and part of it cracked off of the pan, so I keep having to smoosh it back down together. I need to repan it with alcohol, but I can't find my backup one and I don't want to have to wait for it to dry! lol.
That's my HG highlighter, so I have no idea what I'm going to do when it runs out. Of course that will probably be a couple years from now, but still!

These can't be repressed, as they aren't pressed to begin with.

Quote:
Originally Posted by SNJx View Post

I'd be grateful if anyone would be able to answer my question, how do the ED skin finishes compare to MSFs in texture and finish? I'm indecisive about whether I want these! I didn't try them the first time they where released.

Both myself and another member have described the differences between all the powders in great detail in a previous post.
Edited by erine1881 - 2/16/13 at 6:23pm
post #452 of 3636
Quote:
Originally Posted by erine1881 View Post


These can't be repressed, as they aren't pressed to begin with.
Both myself and another member have described the differences between all the powders in great detail previously.

 

But if they aren't pressed, how are they in a pan in the first place?  Whisper of Guilt isn't a loose pigment, it's in a pan, with logos all over it like they pressed it into the pan? I genuinely don't understand how it can be in a pan and have the logos/wave shape without being molded into it?

 

At any rate, I can always mix it with some rubbing alcohol and smush it back down into the pan and see what happens. *shrug*

If I do I'll post how it goes in case anyone else has had theirs break apart some in the pan.

post #453 of 3636
Quote:
Originally Posted by SNJx View Post

I'd be grateful if anyone would be able to answer my question, how do the ED skin finishes compare to MSFs in texture and finish? I'm indecisive about whether I want these! I didn't try them the first time they where released.

I feel like the ED skin finishes are more finely milled and give more of a metallic sheen, I still love my MSFs but I find that sometimes the shimmer is a bit chunky /:
post #454 of 3636
Quote:
Originally Posted by SNJx View Post

I'd be grateful if anyone would be able to answer my question, how do the ED skin finishes compare to MSFs in texture and finish? I'm indecisive about whether I want these! I didn't try them the first time they where released.

I feel like the ED skin finishes are more finely milled and give more of a metallic sheen, I still love my MSFs but I find that sometimes the shimmer is a bit chunky /:
post #455 of 3636
Quote:
Originally Posted by erine1881 View Post

These can't be repressed, as they aren't pressed to begin with.
Both myself and another member have described the differences between all the powders in great detail in a previous post.
Sorry I'll have a look now, thank you! smiles.gif
Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniellahh View Post

I feel like the ED skin finishes are more finely milled and give more of a metallic sheen, I still love my MSFs but I find that sometimes the shimmer is a bit chunky /:
Thank you!
post #456 of 3636
Quote:
Originally Posted by erine1881 View Post

Cuz.

lol.gif

The ingredients in the EDSF isn't safe for eye use. Probably the same reason you can't use em wet, but you can with the EDES. Ingredients.

Quote:
Originally Posted by MaCchick43 View Post

So, you can't use edsf on eyes???? Is that true?? Does anyone else use them on eyes?

I didn't know they weren't eye safe. I used a sheer wash of them on my eyes all summer long. I guess it's better to be precautionary as a makeup artist when using them on other people, due to the range of sensitivities but for personal use, I didn't have any problems. Can't wait for the summer to return because Glorify was a big part of my quick and easy no fuss summertime look.
post #457 of 3636
Quote:
Originally Posted by sss215 View Post



I didn't know they weren't eye safe. I used a sheer wash of them on my eyes all summer long. I guess it's better to be precautionary as a makeup artist when using them on other people, due to the range of sensitivities but for personal use, I didn't have any problems. Can't wait for the summer to return because Glorify was a big part of my quick and easy no fuss summertime look.


I did the same thing! Glorify is one of my favorites as eyeshadow.

I just asked MAC to see what they say about it, since I'm curious.

post #458 of 3636
Quote:
Originally Posted by sss215 View Post



I didn't know they weren't eye safe. I used a sheer wash of them on my eyes all summer long. I guess it's better to be precautionary as a makeup artist when using them on other people, due to the range of sensitivities but for personal use, I didn't have any problems. Can't wait for the summer to return because Glorify was a big part of my quick and easy no fuss summertime look.

how did you wear it? 

post #459 of 3636

Those new EDSFs look so nice, can't wait to see swatches! it kinda sucks that by the time we are able to see online swatches, the collection has already been up. I loved the days of temptalia and bloggers alike that were able to review them before they came out...now I feel like I either must blindly buy or wait another week to see for myself
 

post #460 of 3636
Quote:
Originally Posted by skratikans View Post

Those new EDSFs look so nice, can't wait to see swatches! it kinda sucks that by the time we are able to see online swatches, the collection has already been up. I loved the days of temptalia and bloggers alike that were able to review them before they came out...now I feel like I either must blindly buy or wait another week to see for myself
 

 

amen to that....

post #461 of 3636
I repressed mine when it broke,so it can be done.it just won't have the logo/design on it anymore.
post #462 of 3636
Quote:
Originally Posted by CaliMel View Post


I did the same thing! Glorify is one of my favorites as eyeshadow.
I just asked MAC to see what they say about it, since I'm curious.

I compared the ingredients of my EDES in Grand Galaxy and Glorify, and the only ingredient I noticed that was different outside of the coloring agents was Mica. I've used eye products that have had mica with no problems so...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Prettypackages View Post

how did you wear it? 

I would use select cover up all over the eye area and take it down to my undereye area. I would set with MAC invisible set powder in deep peach and then use Glorify to highlight my cheek bones, temples and wash whatever was left over my lids, I used on brush for all of it except concealer. Then add liner, mascara and go. Summer is no fuss for me when it comes to makeup, the humidity and heat is horrible where I live.
post #463 of 3636


Just the recommendation, but do at your own risk.
post #464 of 3636
Quote:
Originally Posted by erine1881 View Post



Just the recommendation, but do at your own risk.

I see. I tend to think that companies error on the side of caution since they don't want a lawsuit. I mean, it just says "not recommended" not "this will make you go blind", so for me I'll keep using it. But I also don't wear contacts or anything like that. If I did, I would definitely be more careful. Thanks for posting that! Do they have those for all products? I wish they would send those out with them, but I'm weird and love looking at things like that because it's good to know the extra info.

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by maclovin baby View Post

I repressed mine when it broke,so it can be done.it just won't have the logo/design on it anymore.

Good to know! I'll give it a try and see how mine ends up. =] I don't care about the logo/design, since mine is pretty much all worn off anyways at this point. If it were still brand new looking it would make me sad, but it's already pretty used looking at least.

post #465 of 3636
Quote:
Originally Posted by sss215 View Post


I compared the ingredients of my EDES in Grand Galaxy and Glorify, and the only ingredient I noticed that was different outside of the coloring agents was Mica. I've used eye products that have had mica with no problems so...
I would use select cover up all over the eye area and take it down to my undereye area. I would set with MAC invisible set powder in deep peach and then use Glorify to highlight my cheek bones, temples and wash whatever was left over my lids, I used on brush for all of it except concealer. Then add liner, mascara and go. Summer is no fuss for me when it comes to makeup, the humidity and heat is horrible where I live.

sounds pretty.  what brush did you use? 

I considered getting rid of my glorify. 

I might have to look into the mac invisible set powder.   

post #466 of 3636
Quote:
Originally Posted by CaliMel View Post

I see. I tend to think that companies error on the side of caution since they don't want a lawsuit. I mean, it just says "not recommended" not "this will make you go blind", so for me I'll keep using it. But I also don't wear contacts or anything like that. If I did, I would definitely be more careful. Thanks for posting that! Do they have those for all products? I wish they would send those out with them, but I'm weird and love looking at things like that because it's good to know the extra info.

Its not recommended because they haven't tested it on the eyes to determine if it's safe to use there. As all their eyeliners (and shadows and blush) have been tested for use on the eye (including waterline for eyeliners) and lips, these specifically have not. I myself feel much better using products that have been tested safe on my eye, and not use those that haven't. It's not that they err on the side of caution, they just haven't actually tested it at all.
post #467 of 3636
Quote:
Originally Posted by Prettypackages View Post

sounds pretty.  what brush did you use? 
I considered getting rid of my glorify. 
I might have to look into the mac invisible set powder.   

Real Techniques setting brush
Quote:
Originally Posted by CaliMel View Post

I see. I tend to think that companies error on the side of caution since they don't want a lawsuit. I mean, it just says "not recommended" not "this will make you go blind", so for me I'll keep using it. But I also don't wear contacts or anything like that. If I did, I would definitely be more careful. Thanks for posting that! Do they have those for all products? I wish they would send those out with them, but I'm weird and love looking at things like that because it's good to know the extra info.



I agree. They could still get a lawsuit, but they would win because of their recommendation. I didn't see it on this info on the product though, there wasn't a product insert either. I wear contacts and no problems at all. I wish MAC did take the time to test them on the eye, but since its sold as a face product I guess they didn't see the need to bother.
Quote:
Originally Posted by erine1881 View Post

Its not recommended because they haven't tested it on the eyes to determine if it's safe to use there. As all their eyeliners (and shadows and blush) have been tested for use on the eye (including waterline for eyeliners) and lips, these specifically have not. I myself feel much better using products that have been tested safe on my eye, and not use those that haven't. It's not that they err on the side of caution, they just haven't actually tested it at all.

It's still mentioned in the event of a lawsuit. If a person used a product outside of what the company "recommends" and it caused an injury, there is documentation that a company could use as defense.
post #468 of 3636
Quote:
Originally Posted by erine1881 View Post



Just the recommendation, but do at your own risk.

 

Is this information actually on the product anywhere? I haven't looked that carefully, but don't recall ever seeing it. It's not on the website either, so how is the ordinary consumer supposed to know?

post #469 of 3636
Quote:
Originally Posted by erine1881 View Post


Its not recommended because they haven't tested it on the eyes to determine if it's safe to use there. As all their eyeliners (and shadows and blush) have been tested for use on the eye (including waterline for eyeliners) and lips, these specifically have not. I myself feel much better using products that have been tested safe on my eye, and not use those that haven't. It's not that they err on the side of caution, they just haven't actually tested it at all.

iagree.gif  I know some people (including fellow makeup artists) use products in ways that have not been recommended as safe, but I personally never do it either.  I actually had a big problem with the latest release of glitter from MAC because it was being advertised with eyeliner mixing medium, even though glitter is NOT considered eye-safe.  I expressed my concerns to someone on MAC's live chat and asked them to pass it along to whoever is in charge of that type of thing.  Probably didn't make a difference, but I was bothered enough by it to say something.

 

That being said, I definitely think that MAC (and all cosmetics companies, for that matter) need to make this kind of information available on the individual products.  At least pigments usually have the insert that lists which shades are lip/eye safe, but they really should expand that to other products, IMHO.

post #470 of 3636
Quote:
Originally Posted by jennyap View Post

 

Is this information actually on the product anywhere? I haven't looked that carefully, but don't recall ever seeing it. It's not on the website either, so how is the ordinary consumer supposed to know?


Good questions.

post #471 of 3636

After getting Estee Lauder Tease Illuminating Powder Gelee I much prefer this formula as a highlighter and eyeshadow then full on blush (just to frosty for a blush for my personal taste). So the blushes in this collection I'll be skipping on. Now how many of the 3 EDSF's am I going to get. ;)

 

It does blend down to a nice highlighter. 

http://www.warpaintandunicorns.com/2013/01/estee-lauder-pure-color-illuminating.html

post #472 of 3636
Quote:
Originally Posted by AniBEE View Post

After getting Estee Lauder Tease Illuminating Powder Gelee I much prefer this formula as a highlighter and eyeshadow then full on blush (just to frosty for a blush for my personal taste). So the blushes in this collection I'll be skipping on. Now how many of the 3 EDSF's am I going to get. winks.gif

It does blend down to a nice highlighter. 
http://www.warpaintandunicorns.com/2013/01/estee-lauder-pure-color-illuminating.html
The blushes aren't as 'frosty' as the skinfishes. smiles.gif
post #473 of 3636
Quote:
Originally Posted by Corally View Post


The blushes aren't as 'frosty' as the skinfishes. smiles.gif
 

No they aren't nearly as frosty.  Most of the colors aren't even very pigmented, which surprised me.  I thought they'd have really strong pigment but only about 2 of them do.  My wallet is grateful.

post #474 of 3636
Quote:
Originally Posted by CaliMel View Post

I see. I tend to think that companies error on the side of caution since they don't want a lawsuit. I mean, it just says "not recommended" not "this will make you go blind", so for me I'll keep using it. But I also don't wear contacts or anything like that. If I did, I would definitely be more careful. Thanks for posting that! Do they have those for all products? I wish they would send those out with them, but I'm weird and love looking at things like that because it's good to know the extra info.

 

The cosmetic companies didn't choose to err on the side of caution. It's because of laws in the US to protect consumers from potentially hazardous products.

 

I have some makeup i bought back in the late 1960s, and i can tell by looking at it now that it has ingredients that are REALLY not safe to put on my skin. One is a gold pressed powder that tarnished - it oxidized and turned green! That means it was made with real metal, probably what is called "bronzing powder". This has nothing to do with making skin look tan. Bronzing powder is real powdered metal. For example, bronzing powder can be mixed with paint to make a wooden picture frame look like it's made of bronze, or it can be mixed with something else and painted over old baby shoes - formerly a common practice to make a keepsake from one's child's infancy. So this face powder was made and sold back before the laws to protect consumers were passed in the US.

 

Nowadays in the US all makeup products must list all the ingredients in them (except their proprietary perfumes), use ingredients that are more or less safe, and note when a product contains an ingredient known to be unsafe for use on a particular part of our faces. I think it's good to know when some products aren't lip safe -- get in our mouths, get swallowed, spread into our bodies, cause illness or permanent damage -- or eye safe -- maybe not make us to go blind, but can cause irritation, infection, permanent damage to the cornea, etc. Other products may contain ingredients that haven't been tested on certain parts of the face, so it is not known if they are safe - as is the case with the EDSF and eyes. Of course, the ultimate choice is up to us whether we pay attention to warnings or not, but at least we have been informed. I always read labels, and i look up information unfamiliar ingredients.

 

However, there isn't nearly enough oversight on skin care products in my opinion, but that's a whole 'nother issue.

 

I don't know about consumer protection laws in other countries.

post #475 of 3636
Quote:
Originally Posted by jennyap View Post

Is this information actually on the product anywhere? I haven't looked that carefully, but don't recall ever seeing it. It's not on the website either, so how is the ordinary consumer supposed to know?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spikesmom View Post


Good questions.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ChosenOne View Post

iagree.gif   I know some people (including fellow makeup artists) use products in ways that have not been recommended as safe, but I personally never do it either.  I actually had a big problem with the latest release of glitter from MAC because it was being advertised with eyeliner mixing medium, even though glitter is NOT considered eye-safe.  I expressed my concerns to someone on MAC's live chat and asked them to pass it along to whoever is in charge of that type of thing.  Probably didn't make a difference, but I was bothered enough by it to say something.

That being said, I definitely think that MAC (and all cosmetics companies, for that matter) need to make this kind of information available on the individual products.  At least pigments usually have the insert that lists which shades are lip/eye safe, but they really should expand that to other products, IMHO.

Unfortunately, it's not. The artist is supposed to be aware of this. And generally, consumers ought to ask the artist about recommended uses before using it for purposes other than the original purpose.

But there are MANY people that use items for non-tested usages-
Shadow on the waterline
Fluidline on the waterline
Powerpoint on the waterline
I watched a YT vid of a mac artist using a pearlglide on the waterline blink.gif
post #476 of 3636
Quote:
Originally Posted by erine1881 View Post

Unfortunately, it's not. The artist is supposed to be aware of this. And generally, consumers ought to ask the artist about recommended uses before using it for purposes other than the original purpose.

 

Where does this leave the online customer? This method of notification assumes some knowledge of cosmetics by the average consumer. Can the company really expect, say, a novice makeup user to know to ask if they can use a face colour to shade their eyes? Building an online database with this kind of info would be nice.

post #477 of 3636
Quote:
Originally Posted by MissTT View Post

Where does this leave the online customer? This method of notification assumes some knowledge of cosmetics by the average consumer. Can the company really expect, say, a novice makeup user to know to ask if they can use a face colour to shade their eyes? Building an online database with this kind of info would be nice.

iagree.gif
post #478 of 3636

I could certainly see the waterline issue being confusing for regular consumers. In the 80s, the only place I used liner WAS on the waterline. That's what liner was for, yo. I did use liquid liner to draw on those extended cat eyes (inner and outer corner, not sure what that's called), but pencils belonged in one place. My waterline.

 

Only old people (like my bf's mother) wore eyeliner on the top. It was striking enough that one of my bf's male buddies commented that 'your mother wears eyeliner on the top'.

 

Now I don't ever apply eyeliner to my waterline. My eyes don't like it much since they aren't used to it. Where do I wear my liner? Mostly on the upper lid. Exactly where I wouldn't have been caught dead wearing it 30 years ago. LOL (And skinny jeans are back - although I know enough to leave my 45 year-old ass out of those).

post #479 of 3636

The reason I only put my eyeliner on waterlines (whether on the bottom or top) is that it looks bizarre on me any other way. When I first tried out eyeliner, I put on the lid, and it looked terrible on me. Even many years later, when I tried it again and this time with some skill under my belt, it looked horrid on me. I think it's because I have really big, circular eyes, so it looks weird aesthetically. 

post #480 of 3636
Quote:
Originally Posted by erine1881 View Post




Unfortunately, it's not. The artist is supposed to be aware of this. And generally, consumers ought to ask the artist about recommended uses before using it for purposes other than the original purpose.

But there are MANY people that use items for non-tested usages-
Shadow on the waterline
Fluidline on the waterline
Powerpoint on the waterline
I watched a YT vid of a mac artist using a pearlglide on the waterline blink.gif

We can't use fluidlines and powerpoints on the waterline?   Ugh! getyou.gif

New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Color Collections
Specktra › Welcome to the Specktra Community! › MAC Chat  › MAC Chat › Color Collections › MAC In Extra Dimension Collection 2013 (April 2013)