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post #1 of 16
12/2/05 at 3:33pm
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When all the new glitters came out last year every SA was wearing them on their eyes. I've been wearing mine on the eyes and had no problems but now I'm reading they're not eye safe, I think I'll need to swap them away its definitely not worth the risk. Same with pigments, SA's really need to be trained to know what's safe and what's not, that's really bad on MAC's part that they are not doing the neccesary training on staff when they should be the most knowledgeable people on their own products...........just my daily rant
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post #2 of 16
12/2/05 at 3:45pm
one of the MAs told me that it's not that they arent eye safe just that they arent tested for the eye (or lip or whatever)... but i'm not sure.
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post #3 of 16
12/3/05 at 6:27pm
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Originally Posted by sxychika1014
one of the MAs told me that it's not that they arent eye safe just that they arent tested for the eye (or lip or whatever)... but i'm not sure.
Be careful taking information on this matter from MAs and SAs, as they are often under-educated in this department. The information on the precautions list is directly from MACs forumlation labs, and the reports they submit to the FDA and other cosmetic safety organizations. Products are NEVER released without prior testing. Occasionally a product will be released and then have the safety status changed upon FURTHER testing, but NEVER is a product released prior to a complete first and second run of testing. Products which are labelled not-safe for certain areas are due to the pigments, dyes, other colorants and ingredients which are either known chemical irritants, allergens, or physical irritants for the area specified.


I am well aware of MACs deficiency when it comes to product safety. The best I can suggest is when purchasing a pigment, glitter, CCB, or paint, to open the box and read the insert before you leave the store, in case it turns out the product cannot be safely used as you had intended. I also suggest writing to MAC and informing them of your displeasure at this situation.
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post #4 of 16
12/3/05 at 6:53pm
pish posh... the mas wear them on their eyes because they choose to. they are professional products not meant to be used by the average consumer. u think all the shit they use on runway models is safe? hell no. and anyone imo, with common sense knows that glitter around the eyes can be dangerous. no matter what brand.... like i always say, its at your own risk. just cuz an ma is wearing it doesnt mean u shoul copy. they are pro make up artists. read the inserts and decide for yourself.
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post #5 of 16
12/4/05 at 6:35pm
I agree Lah Knee, the issue arises when sales associates and makeup artists sell/promote products that are not eye/lip safe for use in those areas. One should expect a makeup artist to be up front with the information on a product, and not sell you fanplastico CCB as an eyeshadow, for example.
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post #6 of 16
12/4/05 at 7:00pm
Ya totally... i mean if i was wearing non-eyesafe products on my eyes and someone asked what i was wearing i would definately mention to them that some of the stuff is not eye-safe. MAs should definately be informed of that stuff. but like i said, just cuz they are wearing it, doesnt mean they dont know of its safety pre-cautions, as the original poster is implying
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post #7 of 16
12/30/05 at 3:37pm
Inside every box of MAC Pigments and Glitters is an insert which specifies which colors are not eye or lip safe.
The one I pulled out of my Goldenaire box says this:

"CAUTION: The Following shades are not to be used in the lip area: Cornflower, Dark Soul, Fairy Lite, Kitschmas, Naked, Blue Storm, Teal, and Violet.
The following shades are not to be used in the eye area: Chocolate Brown, Cornflower, Dark Soul, Fairy Lite, Golden Lemon, Naked, and Teal."

I totally agree agree with lah_knee's posts.
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post #8 of 16
12/31/05 at 2:53am

I was just going to post about this!

I opened my Lovely Lily pigment today and looked at the precautions sheet and it said exactly that (above post) about all the ones unsafe for use in lip and eye area. All of the ones that we were told were "reformulated" to be lip or eye safe are still listed as not safe.

I've been a little skeptical about the reformulation anyway...usually when a company reformulates, they pull all old product from the shelves, but that apparently wasn't the case in this instance. And also, to reformulate a pigment, it seems that it would affect the texture or "slip" or pigmentation level of the product, but no one has mentioned any of the newer ones of these shades being noticably different than the old, with the exception of Kitschmas being a bit different.

Any thoughts about what this all means?
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post #9 of 16
12/31/05 at 5:38pm
I've noticed this, and contacted MAC about it, and am waiting on a response.
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post #10 of 16
1/20/06 at 8:44pm
Did MAC ever get back to you with a reponse, marty ?
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post #11 of 16
1/21/06 at 3:03am
I try to pride myself on knowing what is safe and not safe around or on people's eyes or lips. The sad thing is that, what it always comes down too is that the consumer is going to do whatever they choose to with the product when they get home. The e/s, for example, are not meant to be wet but how many of us wet them. Glitters not safe for the eye area but how many of us love to wear glitter on our eyelids. I personally won't wear a glitter on my eyelid because knowing my clumsy self I am going to get a piece of glitter stuck in my eye and scratch the *ish* outta myself. My advice, read the insert. Then go home and decide, but remember this:

1. Chapstick is not tested for the eye area.
2. Foundation is not tested around the eye area.
3. Body lotion even if it is fragrance free and allergy and dermotoligist tested was not tested for face and eye either.

Just some food for thought.
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post #12 of 16
1/25/06 at 3:14pm
I thought they did that as a protection against liability. For example, if someone used dark soul and their eyes get irritated, they cannot sue MAC. Where else would you use dark soul?
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post #13 of 16
1/25/06 at 3:20pm
This seems like the best place to mention this....I know a lot of people line their waterlines, but I was under the impression that MAC recommends against it (though some things are recommended against less than others, or something), yet in many of the looks they have been putting on the website to go with new collections, they have as part of the instructions lining the waterline. If people want to do it, fine, I do it from time to time, but just like an MA selling someone a non-eyesafe product and advertising it as otherwise, I don't really think MAC should be promoting this on their website. Sorry, that's just been bothering me and I had to rant.
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post #14 of 16
1/25/06 at 9:02pm
I strongly suggest emailing MAC and letting them know your displeasure at this! When I contacted them after recieving the email stating that MAC suggests NONE of it's products for the waterline, I mentioned that the eye-kohl page on the site said it was suggested for that use. They promptly fixed the error on the site.
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post #15 of 16
2/12/06 at 5:30am
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Originally Posted by sxychika1014
one of the MAs told me that it's not that they arent eye safe just that they arent tested for the eye (or lip or whatever)... but i'm not sure.
this is true. when we go to training and what not that is what they tell us. It just means it's "not tested" for a particular area. But sometimes they will tell us, "not recommended for the lip/eye area" but for the most part, pigments and what not that are supposidly not "eye safe" just means they haven't been tested for the eye area.
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post #16 of 16
2/12/06 at 4:12pm
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Originally Posted by RedBetty
I thought they did that as a protection against liability. For example, if someone used dark soul and their eyes get irritated, they cannot sue MAC. Where else would you use dark soul?

For artist's dark soul can be used for shading the face and or body in different lighting for photoshoots or creative looks. Pigments are versatile lie ktha but like fugazi said thye weren't teseted for that area which means thiers risk. I wish all pigments were everything safe!!lol
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