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She didn't have to go into jail, just call in =p

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Oh that's going to get UGLY.

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ah. no.
the judge specifically said she had to appear in court, which is why she was just picked up by a sheriff's car while handcuffed, with a media circus all around her.


There was never any agreement with the courts and prosecutors that she appear by phone.

Janice:
It could get very ugly, especially if there is a miscarriage of the law by the sheriff's department as the punishment was laid out by the judge.
There was NO REASON for her to be let out of jail.
She's sad? So is every other inmate in the ciminal justice system in America.
Her herpes flared up? There's a hospital available to her IMMEDIATELY on hand with the LA County facility. Aside from that, being released to go home is not a viable solution, as it's not in a medically supervised environment.
She was depressed or detoxing? Again, not like ANY other inmate in the CJS doesn't endure the same thing.
She's innocent? Aren't they all.

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The judge is pretty ticked off at the sheriff. but thats about the extent of what can be done. just be ticked off.

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Like i said earlier... Once she's handed to the Sheriff's department, the Judge doesn't have any more authority. It's always up the the jail to decide how they want to carry out a sentence. Thats why things like "good behavior" and other things are availible once you get to jail, and not before. It's up to the jail systems to ultimateley decide how they want to implement the sentence.

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She tried to just call in to the court, but that wouldn't fly apparently. I can't imagine why no one is telling her to stop pissing this judge off. She's already disrespected the court more than once and she's just continuing to attempt to do so. It's laughable to me. Not because of who she is, because I really couldn't care less, but because apparently money can't buy an intelligent advisor.

According to the streaming video on FOX, she's in a Sheriff's car right now on the way to court.

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That's incorrect, otherwise the sentencing of "life without parole" would/could really mean "life until the department of criminal justice is tired of the inmate."

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This is like OJ and his white Bronco.

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I dunno they mentioned a few hours ago that she could phone in. I guess the judge is PMSing enough about this that he wants her in court.

Funny part is, this really doesn't have to do anything with Paris, she's not the decision maker in any of this lol. Not like she has any control over her sentence, or how it's carried out.

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Is it sad that I thought "those are cute shoes"?

Seriously, though, I hope this gets taken care of ASAP and that whatever happens goes towards the greater good of how law is handled and not specifically aimed at Paris Hilton, because then this whole circus was a waste from more important issues. An amusing waste but considering everything else in the world- yeah.

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I'm sure if you looked hard enough, you could find an example of someone with a life sentence that was raduced enough, where they got out. Typically though peole with life sentences are violent offenders, so I think you would have a hard time finding anyone giving compassion to one of them enough to let them out.

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I didn't have an attorney, but it was what the state recommended. I asked the judge if he thought it was too harsh and he said no, so there was my sentence.

Mine wasn't a dui. no where close. I didn't have insurance. so my license was suspended, I didn't even know it was suspended when I was pulled over too. so I was put on probation, and expected to see a couselor once a month and pay 80 bucks a month for supervision. i refused.

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Love you girl , but damn, open some eyes here! Her (personal and familial) power, wealth, and privilege are opening doors that are not accessible to the layman. Straight up!

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http://www.november.org/stayinfo/breaking2/Lifers.html

May 12, 2004 - The Associated Press
One Of 11 In Prison Serving Life Sentence
Policies Raise Number 83 Percent In Decade
By Siobhan McDonough, AP
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WASHINGTON-The number of prisoners serving life sentences has increased 83 percent in the past 10 years, as tough-on-crime initiatives have led to harsher penalties, a study says.

Nearly 128,000 people, or one of every 11 offenders in state and federal prisons, are serving life sentences, according to the study released yesterday by The Sentencing Project, a Washington-based group that promotes alternatives to prison. In 1992, 70,000 people had life sentences.

Nearly 17 percent of inmates in Massachusetts are serving life sentences.

The figures, compiled from the Federal Bureau of Prisons and state correctional agencies, also show that the average amount of time served by criminals given life sentences increased from 21 years in 1991 to 29 years in 1997.

The report said the increases are not the result of more crime, since violent crime fell significantly during the period covered by the study. Instead, the causes are primarily longer mandatory sentences and more restrictive parole and commutation policies.

[/quote]In Tennessee, for example, state law requires that any person sentenced to life with the possibility of parole serve at least 51 years before release is considered.[/quote]

The report also points out that "three strikes" laws requiring life sentences for any third felony conviction are another cause for boosting the number of lifers. Many of those given such penalties are nonviolent drug offenders.

"The people serving life have committed serious offenses, but it doesn't mean that imposing life sentences across the board is always appropriate or the best crime control strategy," said Mark Mauer, assistant director of The Sentencing Project and coauthor of the study.

New York had the highest percentage of its state inmates serving life sentences, 19.4 percent, followed by Nevada, 18.6 percent; California, 18.1 percent; Alabama, 17.3 percent; and Massachusetts, 16.9 percent.

Kent Scheidegger, legal director of the Criminal Justice Legal Foundation in California, which favors stiff sentences, said people who commit serious crimes should not be treated easily.

"For the worst of murders the appropriate sentences are life without parole and death," he said. "If they've gotten life without parole, they've gotten off easy."

In 2003, one in four lifers was serving a sentence without possibility of parole; in 1992 it was one in six, according to the report. The study also found that in 1997, 90 percent of those serving life sentences were in prison for a violent offense, including 69 percent for murder.

"We can't say across the board none of them should have life sentences and conversely that the 90 percent that are in for violent crimes should be in for life," Mauer said. The report details how tougher standards have swollen the population of lifers, further straining the resources and capacity of state prison systems.

It costs $1 million to house a person sentenced to life in prison for 40 years, the report says. Mauer said that money could in some cases be better spent.

© Copyright 2004 The New York Times Comp

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So yeh... Life w/out parole doesn't always mean life...

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I think it has more to do with her celebrity status, than her wealth. And popularity is availible to anyone with the motivation to go get it.

I mean c'mon... How many times has Snoop Dogg been arrested with drugs, weapons, and other things that are a lot more serious than Paris's driving with a suspended liscense. It's not like he's sitting in jail right now.

Popular people get treated differently. We all know this. But fame is availible to anyone, your not born with it.

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In all honesty, most people who violate their DWI or DUI probation by driving the a suspended license ARE NOT SENT TO JAIL AT ALL. Seriously. Most of them just get it knocked down to a no points traffic violation since it's a misdemeanor. I don't like Paris Hilton but I have no idea why she was sent to jail in the first place.

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I'm sure I could find an example of a life sentence reduced to x number of years.
However...consider the subject here.
She's not 'hated' because she's rich. She's not 'hated' because she's 'glamorous' (and I use that term LOOSELY). She's not 'hated' because she's famous.

What could people have against her?

Probably the absolutely tangible sense of entitlement that oozes from every one of her cocaine and methamphetamine juiced pores. Possibly the fact that she's done coke in public, smokes marijuana in public, had sex with attached men without any remorse, and everyone who is close to around or influenced by her winds up with some kind of chemical dependency issue.

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This is absolutely not true.
State of Texas has no qualms with sending someone violating DWI/DUI probation to jail for driving on a suspended license. None. None whatsoever.
Then again, this is Texas and that is California.

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And FYI everyones: a DWI or DUI, contrary to popular belief, is not that big of a deal unless you kill someone. It's usually just a misdemeanor and you'll rarely get jail time. If you're an illegal immigrant in the State of NY, however, you may get deported.
You would be shocked and amazed how many people I've seen with 7+ misdemeanor DWI's who are still alking around and driving!! Its truly insane.

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OK, in NY its common- glad to see Texas is stricter!

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If my memory serves me correctly, the judge has been open about desiring to "make an example" of her.

And ya like Shimmer mentioned, in Texas, they are incredibly hard on DWI and DUI offenders. They're pretty much thrown the book at, along with expensive and continous fines for the length of the probation.

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Thats the way it should be, Janice. Glad to see some states are not as leniant as idiotic NY about DWI's.

Well, some DWI's. I'm torn. I think most people have driven after having a beer or two so I'm not sure how I feel about states that have an absurdly low legal limit. For example, a few weeks ago, we had a girl come in, 20 yrs old, who had been arrested for a DWI by a police officer after she ran a stop sign. She had a .06 blood alcohol content, which is under the legal limit here in NY. Since she was underage, he arrested her. Although I know she broke the law, I felt pretty bad for the girl- I drank when I was under 21 and she hadn't hurt anyone and had been extremely cooperative throughout the entire process. Plus she had NO prior record and works with special education children. Personally, I was shocked the officer even arrested her with the amount of seriously terrible crime going on throughout the city. Sometimes--most times in fact-- cops are just being jerks. I don't think this girl deserves to have her life ruined over a stupid, extremely common mistake.

However, on Monday, a colleague of mine had a DWI by an illegal Mexican immigrant who was arrested with a .34 blood alcohol content. He's getting deported as a result. So it cuts both ways, I guess.

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This also varies state to state.
In TX a DUI/DWI is really expensive and a long term blemish on your record. The laws here have tightened significantly over the years and the idea now of having 3+ DUIs and being allowed out and about and behind the wheel is pretty much impossible.
In TX it's not uncommon at all to get jail time, probation, victim's counseling, AA classes, suspension (immediate) of driver's license, fines every month for probation, a yearly surcharge for three years of minimum of a thousand dollars per year to keep and maintain the driver's license (and it's mandatory that it be kept and maintained), insurance must be maintained as part of probation, community service as part of probation, minimum of a $1200 fine in most areas, and it doesn't go off your record for TEN YEARS.
Additionally, finding an insurance company that will offer coverage for a vehicle is exceedingly difficult, even three years after conviction.
Should an offender choose the monthly payment plan on his or her surcharge (license) fee and be late by ONE DAY, it's automatic default and the license is immediately revoked which will cost the offender the remainder of the yearly surcharge to reinstate, is a violation of the offender's probation, and will result in immediate jailtime if the offender is pulled over by a LEO for any reason.
While offenders are on probation, as a part of their probation, they're generally not allowed ANYWHERE that sells alcohol, up to and including restaurants. They're not allowed to DRINK alchohol, and must submit to regular urinalysis to prove they're not drinking. No going to clubs, concerts, movies, or restaurants that serve alcoholic beverages. The PO has the right and authority to show up at the residence during probation and any alcoholic paraphernalia found is a violation of probation.
All of this I just listed? That's for the first offense. The second one isn't a joke either.
Also, the surcharge raises as the BAC raises. The higher the BAC the higher the surcharge. It can cost up to 3000 dollars a year to keep the driver's license, and it HAS TO BE paid. It doesn't go away by moving from state to state.
Yes, it's a misdemeanor, but I assure you, DUI/DWI in Texas is not a joke anymore, and will cost you literally thousands of dollars without ANY way to get that money back, ever.

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I'm not a fan of Texas, but their DUI policy is makes a lot of sense. Strict but DUIs aren't a laughing matter.

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http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/wa...ction=retrieve

1203.016. (e) The court may recommend or refer a person to the correctional administrator for consideration for placement in the home detention program. The recommendation or referral of the court shall be given great weight in the determination of acceptance or denial. At the time of sentencing or at any time that the court deems it necessary, the court may restrict or deny the defendant's participation in a home detention program.

Just a tidbit of info.

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Unfortunately, there is abuse, because it IS a huge money maker for any state.
Imagine the number of DUI offenders every year.
Now multiply that by at least 1000.
Then multiply THAT by 3.
That gives you the minimum dollar amount the state receives yearly based on DUI convictions (average).

Take any given county in TX, find their number of DUI convictions, multply that by 1200. That's how much the county gets.
They also get another (minimum) 40 dollars a month for 2 years.
HUGE revenue generator for any state, really.

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Tell that to Shiloh Jolie-Pitt.

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The issue here for me, is that if any regular inmate had a health problem, they'd be dealt with in the system, they would not be sent home. That, in and of itself, reeks of special treatment from the Sheriff.

And I totally get why the prosecutor is livid. The city of LA has a shitty reputation for LITERALLY letting celebrities get away with murder and in this case, he can actually attempt to do something.