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that typically we should choose a color that is a bit lighter than our face because of the oxidation in most makeup?
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Good question... I've often wondered the same thing...

I wear Studio Fix Powder in C7 and it blends flawlessly into my face on mornings... Perfect, you know? But less than half-way through the day it looks like I've mixed red clay and vaseline and smeared it on my face!!! Damned oxidization!!!! I may try a shade lighter in the hopes that it will all even out when my sebum starts flowing...
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Generally, for me anyway, a pefect foundation match looks lighter than my skintone in the pan or bottle, but on blends flawlessly. I would not suggest intentionally buying a product that you know to be lighter in order to counteract oxidation.

To Sulking Beauty, if the effects of oxidation are that bad with what you are currently using, I would switch to another formulation or a different brand for foundation and powder all together. Or perhaps you could try a primer.
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I agre with above, when matching foundations at my counter I always remind the customer that, Studio Fix especially, your makeup will oxidize and mix with any oils/etc on your face. however, I would not choose a fndtn that was intentionally lighter to couteract this. I would change formulas, change your moistuizer, change the primer...not color.

hth
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I just got my MSF Natural and so far the oxidization problem hasn't been as much of an issue. I love it, it has a great light texture though very little coverage. I really think that StudioFix powder is notorious for oxidizing, as I've heard many girls complain of it.

I've also noticed that the less product I put on my skin, the less oily it becomes. Primer, concealer, msf and blot to seal the deal. So far this is working for me. I guess I'll save the Studiofix for full coverage days when my skin isn't looking so hot.... SF powder is the only foundation that I've ever tried in my many years of wearing MAC, so I'd be curious to see which formulas oxidize the least.

And yes, I have noticed that wearing a primer DOES help.. alot!!! Thanks Dolls.
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thx for the responses...the sa at prescriptives did my custom blend and in the bottle it's appears a bit lighter than what I would have picked but once it's on my face and blended it does match pretty close to perfect. i've never tried primer though - i might give that a thought. I guess I got the oxidation question from all the reviews on studiofix - i tried it twice and by midday it was a total different color.
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Makeup should match your skin. You shouldn't have watermarks or look like adifferent head was spliced onto a darker neck. It should match your skin exacrly at the jaw line. If you are trying it on in a store, go outside and look at the makeup in broad,unforgiving daylight in a mirror. Buy the wrong shade and everyone notices,even if they do not say a thing.
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My SFF is my shade but it looks lighter and whitish on me....either its not oxidising or I need to go darker rather than lighter!

Still, I've given up on it now anyway
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Originally Posted by SulkingBeauty View Post
Good question... I've often wondered the same thing...

I wear Studio Fix Powder in C7 and it blends flawlessly into my face on mornings... Perfect, you know? But less than half-way through the day it looks like I've mixed red clay and vaseline and smeared it on my face!!! Damned oxidization!!!! I may try a shade lighter in the hopes that it will all even out when my sebum starts flowing...
My suggestion would be that instead of wearing C7 to go with the NC45 or NC50. I have C7 and had the same issue BUT I also know that C7 is just a very orangy shade on its own so it might not be your skin...it could also be the product itself.
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My rule of thumb is if you can't find an exact match that blends seemlessly into your skin, go a shade lighter because you can always warm up with bronzer. I'd rather it be a little lighter and can be fixed than look too dark or muddled gray.
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Carry oil blotting papers as well. It really helps if you start with a clean dry face, apply an oil free primer-one with dimethicone-a foundation that is your exact color,blot with an oil sheet, retouch, then add powder. Buff the powder in! Use blotting sheets during the day. Oil is the enemy-that is what oxidizes! (makeup has preservatives) Even mineral makeup needs to be touched up with blotting papers throughout the day.
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In Studio Fix powder I use about a half shade lighter- NC35. It's mostly because my face and neck appears darker due to PX acne treatment irritation and my chest in actually lighter that NC35 ( more like a NC30! ) I wanted to make my chest, neck and face at least almost look the same. Otherwise it looks like I put on too much bronzer or forgot to put sunblock on some parts of my face. I also noticed when I used NC40 or C4 it did oxidize to a unnatural orange shade- not pretty.

I do think it's better to get something slightly lighter than too dark. But still get something in your skin tone/ color family.
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I actually use a few shades darker in the studio tech..?
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My rule of thumb is if you can't find an exact match that blends seemlessly into your skin, go a shade lighter because you can always warm up with bronzer. I'd rather it be a little lighter and can be fixed than look too dark or muddled gray.
It is the opposite way around for WOC you would rather your foundation or base to be a shade darker, because you can highlight the face. "Too light foundation" is the worst crime for a WOC if you try "warming it up" it just looks really red. because the base to most blushes is the color red.
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I have the same problem but I'm NW15. Every foundation I've tried is too dark or looks orangy on me.
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A trick my MA taught me is to choose the correct shade match for foundation, but use a powder (not an opaque powder like studio fix, but a sheer setting powder like blot or select sheer) that's lighter. That way it won't be like, "Did you put the wrong face on your neck this morning, hun?" but there's a bit of leeway for oxidation.
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This is sad but I use studio fix fluid and I use NW 50 as the base and then go over it lightly with NW45.. The combination is perfecto.. It is a damn shame that women of color have to go through all of this just for a perfect shade...
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This is sad but I use studio fix fluid and I use NW 50 as the base and then go over it lightly with NW45.. The combination is perfecto.. It is a damn shame that women of color have to go through all of this just for a perfect shade...
IF you think you like studio fix fluid, try Iman second to none stick foundation.. great colors and perfect coverage
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my solution to the whole studio fix oxidizing thing was to seek a brand that doesnt oxidize! im very happy with MUFE now
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AMEN mya_embleson.

WoC with the "ghostface"- too light foundation- is as taboo as vpl- visible panty lines!!!

the mac select liquid foundation is great for staying true all day. probably because it is water based.
if you like the formulation of studio fix powder then consider this application:
apply studio fix powder, spray a 187 brush with fix+ and buff your face in a circular motion, covering the entire face. the end result is foundation that is already oxidized before you leave the house and little room for surprise after 3 hours of face time.

i also agree that if you cannot find the mac color/ formulation combo that stays true then you should find a brand that produces a product that works.

i love mac, Lord knows i do- but there are times that i have to use certain products from other lines because the mac product just doesnt work.
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It is the opposite way around for WOC you would rather your foundation or base to be a shade darker, because you can highlight the face. "Too light foundation" is the worst crime for a WOC if you try "warming it up" it just looks really red. because the base to most blushes is the color red.
Actually that's not true for all women of color, because it's not true for me. That's why I said it was my rule of thumb.
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i neva hurd o this!!! I just buy my foundation and if it blends with my skin I hope it stays that way.
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Originally Posted by Tee23 View Post
that typically we should choose a color that is a bit lighter than our face because of the oxidation in most makeup?
i do.
but only because in natural light, it gets warmer and seeps in, and blends better than one my ACTUAL color, which ends up looking darker.

FOR ME.
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In Studio Fix powder I use about a half shade lighter- NC35. It's mostly because my face and neck appears darker due to PX acne treatment irritation and my chest in actually lighter that NC35 ( more like a NC30! ) I wanted to make my chest, neck and face at least almost look the same. Otherwise it looks like I put on too much bronzer or forgot to put sunblock on some parts of my face. I also noticed when I used NC40 or C4 it did oxidize to a unnatural orange shade- not pretty.

I do think it's better to get something slightly lighter than too dark. But still get something in your skin tone/ color family.
i have the same problem as yours. my face is way fairer than my neck and my chest is way fairer as well. i used to wear studio fix powder in nc35 and a bronze so that it will look natural. but still, my face look fairer than my neck. but now, the MA said that i should change to nw35 and when i wear it over my studio fix fluid in nc30, i look too fair. its too obvious that my neck is darker than my face. i dont know whether i should go for a darker shade now or just stay with what i have as i loveeeeeeee the coverage despite the fact that my neck look darker than my face..
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i neva hurd o this!!! I just buy my foundation and if it blends with my skin I hope it stays that way.
HI! i'm new to make up but i wear studio tech in nc50 and i doesn't really do that with my skin. at first i thought the color i wear was actually a little bit darker than my face but my MUA said that it looked like that because i have cool undertones or something.
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Ideally, you should choose a foundation color that blends into your jawbone without any lines that are visible. Though there is a bit of oxidation in foundation, it is not relevant to the point where you should choose a foundation that is lighter than your skintone. I think when you are choosing a foundation and it looks lighter, you just need do keep in mind it will become darker because of oxidation, not choose a lighter foundation based on oxidation.
For example, I was looking for a liquid Studio Fix in NC45 because I use the Studio Powder Fix and wanted a change. Now the color def looked much lighter in the jar. which is fine because it still matched my skin down and even as the day goes on after wearing it and after oxidation occurs it's still ok.
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If your makeup oxidizes beyond recognition, you should switch to something else.

In most formulas, I typically will go a half step lighter in liquid formulas because I a) am oily as hell and b) put powder on top. The color catches up once I've finished the look. For example MUFE face&body #12 looks too light for me in the bottle. once I put it on and put my powder over it and its dry, it darkens. Throughout the day, it'll shift a little more, but not too much otherwise I wouldn't wear it. You don't wanna go too light where your makeup looks off when you first put it on and becomes perfect in a few hours. You need to switch to a formula that will go on gorgeous and shift only slightly as you wear it.
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I usually wear Studio Stick NC45 and NC50, but from being at the counter and trying Stuido Tech on clients all day, I think I am going to try that out... I have combo skin, and the Studio Sticks look great, but I get the greasy face too...(I also sweat alot) what would u all suggest for touch ups? Studio fix powder or Blot powder???
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I used to want to buy foundation until I triedto keep my skin in good condition. You know, like instead of paying a lot of money or any money for a product that gives the illusion of good skin. So far so good. I used Clinique's facial bar soap and their hydrating gel (instead of the lotion). I used it for four days and all of the damaged skin is clearing up well! GOD I sound like a commercial... LMAO!!!!!
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I noticed that alot of the women here wear studio fix in NW shade and the studio tech in NC. Just wondering the reason for that? I recently switched from NW45 to NC50(both were tech formula) because the MA said I have more yellow undertones and NW is more red on me. haven't used fix in awhile.
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