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I've been here for 3 years and have seen a lot of duplicate posts and can see the frustration with seeing 101 posts about the same thing. Perhaps that explains the tone sometimes when people are instructed to use the search function. Sometimes when I read the comments by the mods or admins I'm like, "damn." Then the poster is like, "I'm so sorry", "I didn't know", "I didn't mean any harm." LOL. I feel bad for them sometimes. Because of this there are a lot of posts now that start off with, "I'm sorry if this has been discussed. I did a search and I couldn't find anything."

Actually, that leads me to an issue with the search function. There are certain words that are too short or too common and will not be picked up during the search. I was trying to get some recs for 3D Gold glitter. I wanted to avoid the, "please utilize the search function in the future" comment so I plugged my phrase into the search box but "3D" was too short so I ended up with 500 search results with every post that mentioned, "glitter" and "gold". I know there are people who use it and have spoken about it but without plugging through all those threads I wasn't going to find it.

EDIT: I was just thinking. It would be great if all new members had to watch a short tutorial on how to use the search function. I don't know how feasible that is but I think a lot of people just don't know how to properly utilize the feature.

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I totally agree. I guess everyone has their own reasons/functions for the 'Thanks' button on a FOTD post. I know, for me, when a user makes good use of a shadow that I own or I've thought about buying/using, I thank them. I've gotten so many ideas from mzreyes posts. If not for her, I wouldn't look like the person a lot of people have come to know.

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Yeah, I admit to feeling really bad about this, but the pressure is on us to keep a tidy forum. The reason for the tidyness is to help with keeping information condensed and easily obtainable. Still feel bad about how it's evolved though. If things work out, the search function will be improved along with many other site improvements.

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In regard to the changing the color of text, centering, etc., I did do that on a recent post. I did that to correlate with the color of topic that was discussed in that particular sentence. I felt it may be of help to the reader to be a memory jogger.

I am truly sorry that this was very difficult to read. I will certainly correct this issue promptly. Thank you for bringing this to my attention. If any of my other posts have things that are difficult to read, ect., please do not hesitate to contact me directly by PM. Thank you.

UPDATE: I made the changes in that post. I agree with everyone. It is easier on the eyes. Thanks again.

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I agree with a lot of what you said JasmineBarley. I am guilty of thanking people that are my "friends" a lot but I also spread the love around. I really like the thanks button and I most likely use it too often. I am thankful for peoples contributions on here and I want to show them that I am.

I am also guilty of saying that people "look gorgeous" in their FOTD threads. Mostly because I do or I will compliment people on their skills.

My biggest pet peeve is people who don't use the "thanks" button at all (which I know many other people have said). That drives me crazy.

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Jasminbarley: I agree with some of your posts but i have to add that i don't see how saying *you look gorgeous* in a post can come accros as a pet peeve, we should as you say encourage members to improve their skills and also give them some confidence in themselves especially beginners.

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I have no problem at all with "you look gorgeous" thing, i find it really nice about specktra, cause i bet in some other forums people would diss you a lot if you had not that good skills, trying to point out the flaws... But here people really encourage others to do more, in general, those who do a very professional make-up are the minority here, i do admire their work definitely, yet i wanna thank other people for posting theirs, and yes, if i do think the lady looks gorgeous, or cute, or i like some feature, i will go say it! Im not lack on that, plus we all need some feedback sometimes.. And if my comment could make someone's day, i'd be only happy about it. I'm not lack on positive comments, so if i think so, i say so.

I also use "thanks" if someone asked what i was going to ask, or amused me, or i just find something very sweet. Also i hit the thanks when i ask about my personal things, ask for an advise etc, cause no matter what people say i wanna thank them for reading all what i wrote and paying attention to me.

Oh, and one more thing - we said already about people with zero thanks and lots of thanked, but also what bugs me is people with lots of "thanked" but incredibly little "thanks" in comparision. Just IMO, but it makes it look like the person is so lack on this "thanks", that would think 5 times before giving it, and will chose only super special posts, like "ok, you all give me some advises but i only like this one and that one, look at me im so picky". Freaks me out.

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^^ you go girl! I totally agree with the you look gorgeous thing. Maybe it's all I can think of to say at times, but I really mean it when I say it

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I think that, with the amount of snark out on the internet, anyone who posts an FOTD deserves a little pick me up, whether it's in the form of 'thanks', rep, or a comment.

I wish that more people could openly discuss and say "I wore this today, here's how it looked, what would have made it better?"
"Oh well, it would maybe have looked better if your liner had been a bit/more/less/thicker/thinner/winged/whatever and if you add contour here and here...maybe that'll help?"
or
"The shape isn't quite what your eyes need, IMO, maybe try shaping it like ____ next time?"
It's not mean to have someone say those things, it's honest criticism, and I wish the forums in general (not just here) could handle honest, positive but necessary critique.

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I totally agree with Shimmer, I actually really appreciate when people say something critical about my FOTDs, because it helps me to improve, or maybe makes me notice something I didn't before, etc. Unless it's just nitpicking at miniature details, like the liner being not 100% straight or something...but positive criticism is always appreciated on my end.

But I know some people get sensitive to it, especially new posters, but whenever I give critique to a look, it's really coming from the angle that I hope it will be helpful for the person to improve their technique.

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I did say I was in the middle with this one. It's a pet peeve because whilst I think that everyone deserves some encouragement, my personal opinion is some of the "you look gorgeous" FOTDs are average at best and just posting "you look gorgeous" might inspire confidence but sometimes IMHO some constructive criticism might be more helpful - see the examples that Shimmer gave.

And re the average FOTDs, as the other poster quoted after me wrote, I guess "beauty really is in the eye of the beholder."

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This is exactly what i was trying to say in my post you ladies have worded it better than me. We all read that thread in the chatter thread how some girls were making fun of some ladies here on Specktra. This is not what we do in this forum, in this forum we encourage these ladies and say that they look gorgeous because they do look gorgeous! People out there are vile and they would say anything to make someone's life miserable.

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That is true, i agree beauty is in the eyes of the beholder
But some people although they say constructive criticism is welcome they actually get really sensitive and defensive about it. Hehe which i find wierd because they asked for it and said that it's "welcome"

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Yeah, I agree with the sensitivity comments that you and others have made, nunu. That's why I'm so in the middle with this one. I do understand that Specktra is meant to be a supportive community first and foremost and improving makeup skills is an added bonus. But part of me thinks that it would be great if there was more open discussion as Shimmer suggested, where people could accept constructive criticism, especially when they asked for it in the first place, as you mentioned!

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I agree, while constructive criticism is great for improving skills, I think it can go overboard. I recall a tutorial a while back, where everyone gave the same criticisms over and over again. I think it hurt her feelings and she didn't post another picture/tut again. I would rather err on the side of caution when it comes to someone's appearance. Besides, I honestly believe this forum is full of beautiful and talented men and women.

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That's unfortunate. Makes me kinda sad.

I think we can all use that as an example of why it is good to read the rest of the thread before posting. No need to say something again and again and again. And again. Beating a dead horse syndrome.

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It saddens me as well. I think she didn't get to see all the positives of the forum because of one bad experience.

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I think that while it's great many people want to help (I assume that everyone was nice), I think it's not necessarily for 20 people to make the same point. A few, certainly, but I think it gets tiresome if everyone says the same thing.

The key to constructive criticism is start positive, end positive and sandwich the negatives between positives. Rarely have I seen or heard anything that doesn't have something good going for it

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Having to sugarcoat everything.

Example... Today I posted in an E.L.F. thread about the $1.00 deal. I got called "bitchy" and attacked because I didn't sugarcoat my reply. I wasn't at all being bitchy and I truly believe people perceive things differently over the internet. I simply said to check the facts (because it's really not that hard, kind of goes w/same recommendation threads etc. that there are bundles of lol) and that it IS a good deal but just sick of seeing the chain letter. It got taken the completely wrong way which is sad and another peeve, but not my fault and I don't take it to heart that I was called "bitchy" because I wasn't when I typed the post .

So basically what I'm trying to say is it's a peeve when things are misconstrued!

ON A HAPPIER NOTE...

ITA! Inside AND outside -- double hitters lol

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Well then I'm glad I didn't say anything there, because I totally was going to post for a search to be done and reference the other thread(s) that existed about E.L.F.! It really sucks that the messenger got shot just because you were trying to be helpful to the poster and the mods.

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@ Brittni

To be honest, your choice of words meant that your frustration showed through - it did to me anyway - so it could be that your irritation came across as 'bitchiness'.

I've found that participating in internet forums is hard and how successful you are at it depends on the culture within that particular forum. Some forums can tolerate a little sarcasm and even some flaming. Others can't and require a softer approach. If your forum posting style can't adapt, then it's going to be a rough ride.

On the other hand, sometimes you just catch people at the wrong moment and they just read something into your post that you didn't mean to be there. Or you're the person who misinterprets something.

If you don't take it with you when you leave the PC, then you're doing okay, IMHO.

Edit: (to Brittni below) - Good for you!

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Understandable! I'm over it though.

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Having not seen the thread, it's just always wise to be as articulate as possible on the internet (and it's useful life skill anyway). Without hearing your tone, even incredibly simple sentences or words can come off differently depending on the person

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These are a combination from all of the different forums I visit.

-- Terrible format and grammar, in many forms.
TyPiNG LyK DIS!1111 is annoying.
Lose/loose, they're/their/there, flair/flare, and you're/your really get my goat. Misplaced apostrophes, ex: "We're going to the store to get a couple of Pepsi's."
Good grief, people at my job, which involves writing for all of the public to see, is extremely guilty of the last two!

-- Colored text. Especially if it's a color that blends in with the tables of the forum, or in obnoxious colors like rainbow.

-- Attention whores. These are the ones who whine because, god forbid, you didn't make them or send them a goofy picture for their birthday, or other trite things like that. Woe is me.

-- Drama queens. Enough said.

-- Echoing someone else's pet peeve on children as avatars. I also find it kind of creepy. I understand that you might love your little one enough to immortalize him/her as an avatar, but yeah, it's just a bit creepy and they deserve a little privacy.

-- People posting YouTube links without saying what the video's content is. I'm not going to watch something if it doesn't sound interesting to me, sorry.

-- People taking constructive criticism (actual constructive criticism, not mean, spiteful criticism) out-of-hand. I haven't really seen it from here, but a couple of other forums that I've been to... turns into a drama-fest. Not cool.

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There's only a couple of things I don't like on the internet. The first thing is when people type in 'text' talk. It's difficult to understand sometimes and it's much easier and neater just to write in proper verse.

It also really urks me when I see people who have received 1000s of thankyous themselves and have only thanked 2/3 people in return. Surely they must want to thank someone for something?! I don't know I just feel like it's nice to say thanks when you've appreciated someones post in some way no matter how big or small.

That's about it though - I really really enjoy using Specktra and from my past experience it's always been a really friendly, fun place to chat and long may that continue.

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One that crossed my mind today, are posters with superiority complexes. Basically people who are ALWAYS condescending in their response to others.
Like in the Recs forum, say a poster asks the dreaded "most popular mac X product" and gets the usual responses...then comes someone who'll say

"Well. You COULD use MAC, if you want a so-so product. X brand is better, way better, than MAC could ever be. But I suppose MAC would be fine. Just don't expect a lot. In fact I don't wear any MAC"

SO unnecessary! I think it's rude and in poor taste.

Also, new members who just leech off Specktra. I'm talking about those whose ONLY posts are asking for beauty breakdowns, or basically only posting questions in recommendations. Not only that, but they'll post their thread in like 5 different places all over Specktra. Grrr.

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something I need to clarify.....the giving/receiving thanks thing didn't bother me too much until I read this thread and realised that some people consider themselves worthy to be thanked but to up themselves to thank.....

On that note....are there people on the forum who do not have the ability to thank others? In that, this function is technically disabled when they are reading posts on the forum???

Because I'm trying to understand how else someone can have received 7,000 thanks but given none?

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Some people don't lurk really, or read other people's posts...they just come, post FOTDs or tutorials, and go about their business.

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Now, I have to completely agree with this! I'm not a spelling freak but little things like this annoy me. Why does no one know that a lot is two words???

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I feel the same, but in reverse context - when people bash anything that isn't MAC.

"Why on earth would you use blah blah when you could use MAC? Its OBVIOUSLY superior to blah blah. Sure, its probably nothing asked for, but I'm going to suggest MAC over blah blah anyways simply because its what I LIKE and what I USE on a day to day basis. And yes, I will completely disregard the fact that my skin type and my preferences are totally different from yours!"

I'm not saying ladies on here do that, but I've seen shit like that on MANY a forum in my day.