Saturnal from the Moonbathe collection was about the best olive I've seen from MAC so far. Copperized pigment was okay, and Night Light pigment was a nice green for people who look good in olives too, IMO...I am just not a pigment person tho. I'm looking forward to checking out the olive (Mink & Sable ) from the new frosts that are coming out in the Starflash collection this fall. If you need one right now, I think Lancome had a pretty nice one, at least a few years ago, not sure if they still carry it.