MAC x Carine Roitfeld (Fall 2012)

Mac-Guy

Well-known member
Your comments are not only disingenuous but also self-contradictory. You are saying that bloggers should handle being criticized publicly as "public figures," but in the same sentence state that you are not criticizing the blogger, just the blog... How can a blog "lack any sense of fashion or style"? This comment cannot reasonably twisted as "well-intended advice." It can only apply to a person. And it is rude.

I'm simply asking you to be more respectful, or dare I say, nicer when you share your "criticism." I don't feel this is a tall order. And the only reason I take the time to address it here (we all know that "criticism" and rudeness are abound on the internet) is because I see Specktra as a place where people can interact in a positive instead of negative way.

But perhaps that sentiment is just as "off the mark" as the review is. *shrug*
With my utmost respect, all I am asking (from any journalism, including bloggers) is a bit of research to get an informed opinion. While I realize that blogging in 2012 is all about who provided swatches and reviews the fastest, an ill-researched article (in any kind of media, not just blogging) just doesn't sit well with me. In that case, I do not think that a criticism will harm. After all, a blog that is well researched is not only enjoyable to read, but it also has some educational value. And I'm sure Carine would appreciate that a blog post acknowledges that she is a barely-there-lipstick-person. (now if you don't like that kind of lippie, it's completely different and I certainly understand why one does not like x, y, or z. However, this has nothing to do with the product itself).

But to bring this to an end: Rest assured, I did not mean to offend you personally and if I did, I apologize. Having said that, I wish you all the best with your blog.
 

Mac-Guy

Well-known member
I've got very almond shaped eyes, with lashes that are sort of medium long, but have pale tips. They stick out pretty straight, but they did hold a curl well with the MAC lash curler and even with mascaras where the brush is good for lifting the lashes upwards. I'd rather pay more and get one that will last a long time, as far as my price range. I still see them as creepy medieval torture devices, so the less actual squeezing, pressing and time clamped to my face, the better!
Once you pinched your skin, this will become reality. ROFL
 

gracie90

Well-known member
Quote: Originally Posted by Mac-Guy

Once you pinched your skin, this will become reality. ROFL


When one of the guys in my English class at school saw eyelash curlers fall out of a girl's makeup bag, he genuinely thought they were torture devices to remove people's nails
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mtrimier

Well-known member
hee! i pinched myself with my curler and, after the swearing was over, was oddly disappointed that i didn't curl my eyelid. issues, i have them rofl!
 

luvlydee

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i never had to use an eyelash curler. My lashes are super curly but also super short and thin. So horrible. I would rather have straighter lashes to give my lashes the illusion of length lol
 

katred

Specktra Bestie
I'm in your camp on this one, but I'm fortunate in the great skin department, so getting into that look is easy for me. I think it's a trend that's a hard sell for some girls and women, who have been made very self-conscious about skin issues to the point of creating stress and struggle and shame. I've got quite a few friends who are beautiful, but are either terrified to use makeup because they have ups and downs with their skin or feel ugly if they don't cover up in lots of makeup, the less natural, the better.

I've helped a few of them drastically improve their skin health, but you know how it goes - old habits die hard, even once the original issue is gone. It takes a long time to feel re-empowered and try something new. You can lead a horse to water, etc. Hey, look how poorly Big Bounce was received. It just broke too many "rules". It's just that I can't help getting a little political about the all-natural trend, because I see how close it hits to that common modern female insecurity propaganda about not being perfect "enough". Beautiful, young skin should be an inspiration, but it can sadly turn into a stressful, unattainable ideal for a person burdened with insecurity about their looks.
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Best thing is to keep setting a positive example - getting the message out there is half the battle.

I will say that I'm old enough to remember a few cycles where the totally natural no-makeup look was the main style, and the only beef I had about it then was it just got BORING! Why do you think us punk gals wore drastic makeup, hehe. It was all about scandalizing the drab style we felt buried in. I go out to concerts now and see all these gals who have no makeup and boring clothes, like we're back in 1975 again, and I want to shake them and say "where's the fantasy? where's the creativity??" 'Good thing there's a counter-trend with the bright lips and strong blush nowadays. We sure have more options than before!
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ladyarwen

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While I appreciate Carine's appreciation for nude lips, I don't see the point of a "barely there" lipstick when a lipbalm or tendertone could've fit the bill just fine. I would never pay $16.50 for a lipstick that only produces a bit of shine. I could pay $1 for something like an e.l.f. lipgloss if that's all I wanted, or better yet, shop my stash of glosses that I have already.
 

lenainjkt

Member
i think this is my first post in specktra (have been a lurker for...5 years!), but i just feel i need to give a shout out and support for this collection.

mac-guy, i agree with you about a lot of bloggers missing the context in a lot of collections. they just steamroll through the swatches,which is ok since it's what we need anyway. but to steamroll through this one and discuss opaqueness, comparison to lip balms etc, is actually pretty hilarious.
 

honey on boost

Well-known member
T's swatches are up.

http://www.temptalia.com/mac-jungle-camouflage-face-kit-review-photos-swatches

http://www.temptalia.com/mac-desert-camouflage-face-kit-review-photos-swatches
 

Mac-Guy

Well-known member
While I appreciate Carine's appreciation for nude lips, I don't see the point of a "barely there" lipstick when a lipbalm or tendertone could've fit the bill just fine. I would never pay $16.50 for a lipstick that only produces a bit of shine. I could pay $1 for something like an e.l.f. lipgloss if that's all I wanted, or better yet, shop my stash of glosses that I have already.
My guess is that a l/s in an elegant packaging probably fits better in the overall concept of the collection.
 

Mac-Guy

Well-known member
i think this is my first post in specktra (have been a lurker for...5 years!), but i just feel i need to give a shout out and support for this collection.

mac-guy, i agree with you about a lot of bloggers missing the context in a lot of collections. they just steamroll through the swatches,which is ok since it's what we need anyway. but to steamroll through this one and discuss opaqueness, comparison to lip balms etc, is actually pretty hilarious.
Wow! You joined Specktra in 2008 and this is your first post? You deserve a medal for longtime lurking :)

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lilinah

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I'm not excited about this collection, and there's almost nothing in it i really want. The palettes look nice, but i have most of the eye colors and the cremeblends look too dark for me. I've already got the right brow stuff: MAC Omega eyeshadow. I don't wear black eyeliner or mascara (So far my HG mascara is DiorShow Mitzah, a golden brown, but sadly it's LE, so i'm gonna get a backup). I need none of the brushes. Etc.

But i do want to test "Tropical Mist" lipstick at least.

As others have noted, finding a "Nude" lipstick that suits one's own individual coloring and one's personal taste is not always easy. And, like others, i have had a difficult time. My lips are a medium warm pink but with a bluish tone. Too often "Nude" lipsticks lean orange on me and that does not look good. And those that are too matte, flat, or opaque don't flatter me, either.

One of the "Nudes" i own and enjoy is Urban Decay "Midnight Cowboy" Lip Junkie lip gloss, which is very sheer. However, it is VERY shimmery, sparkly, glittery, which i love, but that does not suit every occasion. I didn't get Ruffian Nude because i thought it might pull orange on me - but being on-line-only meant i couldn't test it (I did get Ruffian Gold, which i love). So i've been on the hunt for a nude that is NOT matte, but is considerably more subtle than UD's "MC".

It remains to be seen if Tropical Mist is the one, but i certainly want to give it a test. I cannot tell until i try it whether it will look "colorless" on me.
 

OhSoJaded

Well-known member
While I understand why the lipstick looks the way it does, I can't justify paying $16.50 for "barely there" lips. Yes, it has sleek and sophisticated packaging, but in terms of utility, I doubt it would do anything for me. Luckily, I already have nudes that suit me just fine. I don't feel particularly compelled to try TM on.

Makes me re-think my decision not to buy a Marilyn lippie. For my personal tastes, my money would be better spent there.

Allura, thank you always for your collection reviews and swatches! I really appreciate it!
 

honey on boost

Well-known member
I'm not excited about this collection, and there's almost nothing in it i really want. The palettes look nice, but i have most of the eye colors and the cremeblends look too dark for me. I've already got the right brow stuff: MAC Omega eyeshadow. I don't wear black eyeliner or mascara (So far my HG mascara is DiorShow Mitzah, a golden brown, but sadly it's LE, so i'm gonna get a backup). I need none of the brushes. Etc.

But i do want to test "Tropical Mist" lipstick at least.

As others have noted, finding a "Nude" lipstick that suits one's own individual coloring and one's personal taste is not always easy. And, like others, i have had a difficult time. My lips are a medium warm pink but with a bluish tone. Too often "Nude" lipsticks lean orange on me and that does not look good. And those that are too matte, flat, or opaque don't flatter me, either.

One of the "Nudes" i own and enjoy is Urban Decay "Midnight Cowboy" Lip Junkie lip gloss, which is very sheer. However, it is VERY shimmery, sparkly, glittery, which i love, but that does not suit every occasion. I didn't get Ruffian Nude because i thought it might pull orange on me - but being on-line-only meant i couldn't test it (I did get Ruffian Gold, which i love). So i've been on the hunt for a nude that is NOT matte, but is considerably more subtle than UD's "MC".

It remains to be seen if Tropical Mist is the one, but i certainly want to give it a test. I cannot tell until i try it whether it will look "colorless" on me.
Same here.. I didn't include it in my online order. I'm going to go to the store when it releases and try it out in person.

BTW DiorShow Mitzah is on sale right now for $14.50 on Sephora.com
 

Genn

Well-known member
I thinking im skipping this unless I see something in person to convince me. I have Pure Zen and that works for me. I kind of wish the blushes were brow wax or lip gloss instead.
 

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