Wayne Goss Brush Collection

luclaw88

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Still waiting on mine to come
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shellygrrl

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LOL. I think he said he doesn't like harsh application (as opposed to soft wash of color) this is why he doesn't have it in his collection.
I distinctly remember him saying he doesn't like lay-down brushes because that's the only purpose they serve: packing on colour. On the other hand, with a fluffier brush, you can apply colour, blend it, apply more colour, blend it again, et al. I think we may be thinking along similar lines but wording it differently?
By the demand we simply mean giving customers what they're requesting. It's a way to make money. People want the 239 and they really like Wayne Goss. If he wants to make more money he certainly can by adding this type of brush to his line up. If he is insistent that he fundamentally opposed to it perhaps he'll stick to those feelings. See his comments about Bare Minerals and their creator's comments about never having a pressed powder in their line. Things change over time and with customer desires.
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MissTT

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I believe that's what he said in one of his videos, shelly. He likes multi-functional brushes.
 

sarabeautime

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I believe that's what he said in one of his videos, shelly. He likes multi-functional brushes.
Yes, it is interesting that I have watched other videos in the past from different people (not only Wayne's) and they were saying the same thing.
I personally can't understand this though, since we all have many brushes so we may have one brush for packing color too.
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I mean it is not a question of "which brush you would take with you to an island if you had only one choice" LOL.

In other words I can't quiet understand having 3 crease brushes in a line and no shader brush. Some other lines I know (look at Tom Ford or Suqqu for example) with limited number of brushes (6-7 brushes each), they all have one shader brush. The example with Bare Minerals is a good one though.
 

shellygrrl

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I can understand having three blending/crease brushes in a line, particularly if they're different sizes to suit different eye shapes/sizes, or if one can be used to apply a soft wash of colour and another can be used for a slightly stronger application without packing it on (I'm thinking MAC 224 vs. 217). The #3 brush in this range is too big for my eye shape (I have a semi-hooded eye due to a low-set brow), and the #5 is way too small, but I could use the #4. On the other hand, I don't see anything wrong with having a brush that does one thing well, and I think that's where many of us are stumped in regards to Wayne's line. While he doesn't like lay-down/flat shader brushes because laying down/packing on colour is their sole purpose, there are many of us who are okay with a brush like that, and we (in general) want to support his line so we would want him to include such a brush, despite the fact there are several brands out there who make flat shader brushes already.
 

tirurit

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I am really interested in these brushes, specially the foundation brush. I have the Dior angled foundation brush and I really like it, I would like to check how it compares to this one.

Personally, when I am not trying to do anything fancy, for my everyday makeup, I prefer my 217 and other blending brushes to both apply and blend. Call me lazy in not wanting to wash too many brushes XD
 

sarabeautime

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I can understand having three blending/crease brushes in a line, particularly if they're different sizes to suit different eye shapes/sizes, or if one can be used to apply a soft wash of colour and another can be used for a slightly stronger application without packing it on (I'm thinking MAC 224 vs. 217). The #3 brush in this range is too big for my eye shape (I have a semi-hooded eye due to a low-set brow), and the #5 is way too small, but I could use the #4. On the other hand, I don't see anything wrong with having a brush that does one thing well, and I think that's where many of us are stumped in regards to Wayne's line. While he doesn't like lay-down/flat shader brushes because laying down/packing on colour is their sole purpose, there are many of us who are okay with a brush like that, and we (in general) want to support his line so we would want him to include such a brush, despite the fact there are several brands out there who make flat shader brushes already.
It is very interesting to read that you like #4, this one is also exactly what I like. And mind you I have big eyes with deep crease and I am also tall (so a big head LoL) so I don't really know if #3 is too big for me, for whom it would be right on the crease LOL. Anyway it can be used for other purposes. I like it for setting under eye concealer and applying highlight on the bridge of the nose.
 

MissTT

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On the other hand, I don't see anything wrong with having a brush that does one thing well, and I think that's where many of us are stumped in regards to Wayne's line. While he doesn't like lay-down/flat shader brushes because laying down/packing on colour is their sole purpose, there are many of us who are okay with a brush like that, and we (in general) want to support his line so we would want him to include such a brush, despite the fact there are several brands out there who make flat shader brushes already.
I agree. I don't think anyone would begrudge him including a shader brush. Perhaps it's just (partially) a marketing hook to make it seem like he cares sooooo much about his customers that he's trying to save them money. Have you tried using brush #5 as a smudging/pencil brush? Is it firm enough? I've been too lazy to try it.

How do you ladies feel about brush #6 for blending? I'm not sure if I like it more than the 217. The flatness makes me think it doesn't do as good a job, but I haven't done any looks that require extreme blending to be able to see a noticeable difference.
 

shellygrrl

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I don't have any of the brushes yet (too many other things taking precedence, not to mention these are so bloody popular!), but #5, from what I've seen, seems a bit long to me for a pencil brush. I could be wrong about that, though!
 

MissTT

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It is and probably too soft/flexible, too, but I thought I saw a review of someone saying they used it as so and I was a bit confused.
 

sarabeautime

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For me #5 is too long and soft for smoking things out. This brush is the one I still couldn't figure out what to do with LOL.
I prefer Laura Mercier Smoky Brush to soften my liners.

I do on the other hand like my #6 on my crease. I like flat brushes on the crease and my other favorite is Hakuhodo G5523. I believe J5523 is close to MAC 217 but G5523 is made of blue squirrel hair, so softer than MAC217 (which I believe is goat). If you are working with pigmented and soft powder eye shadows, I find G5523 works better with me. WG #6 is very close to G5523 and I like them both :))
 

pbpink

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I am really interested in these brushes, specially the foundation brush. I have the Dior angled foundation brush and I really like it, I would like to check how it compares to this one.

Personally, when I am not trying to do anything fancy, for my everyday makeup, I prefer my 217 and other blending brushes to both apply and blend. Call me lazy in not wanting to wash too many brushes XD
i too was was wondering how this brush compares to the dior?

any thoughts?
 

pbpink

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I am really interested in these brushes, specially the foundation brush. I have the Dior angled foundation brush and I really like it, I would like to check how it compares to this one.

Personally, when I am not trying to do anything fancy, for my everyday makeup, I prefer my 217 and other blending brushes to both apply and blend. Call me lazy in not wanting to wash too many brushes XD
i have the TF cream brush but i wanted to try one like the dior, shisedo or wayne goss #1 - sounds like i should go for dior eh?

also, WG is coming out with a another brush for xmas, it is a bigger powder brush
 

MissTT

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A bigger powder brush would be nice. The current one is too tapered for my liking when powdering the whole face.
 

shellygrrl

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You can see it in the recent tutorial with his friend Lucy doing her makeup. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zbW-8O6_UU
 

MissTT

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Oh, yes, I would prefer that size for all over powdering. Still tapered, but easier to work with.
 

Sylvia60

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i have the TF cream brush but i wanted to try one like the dior, shisedo or wayne goss #1 - sounds like i should go for dior eh?

also, WG is coming out with a another brush for xmas, it is a bigger powder brush
I much prefer the Dior to the Shiseido, so yes, I'd recommend you go for it.
 

boschicka

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On the other hand, I don't see anything wrong with having a brush that does one thing well, and I think that's where many of us are stumped in regards to Wayne's line. While he doesn't like lay-down/flat shader brushes because laying down/packing on colour is their sole purpose, there are many of us who are okay with a brush like that, and we (in general) want to support his line so we would want him to include such a brush, despite the fact there are several brands out there who make flat shader brushes already.
I heard him explain it in a video differently. It wasn't that a brush has to have multiple uses. He doesn't like shader brushes that pack on color b/c he believes makeup should be blend and not have harsh lines and he believes that shader brushes promote the type of makeup application he doesn't like, so he's opposed to them for that reason. I hope that makes some sort of sense.
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