Is it really worth going to a make up school??

zwanpumkin

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I've been back and forth on whether or not I should enroll at MUD School in Burbank, Ca for quiet some time now. Now that I finally (somewhat) have the opportunity to do so, I am not sure it's worth it. I know most say it is expensive, but I AM currently enrolled in a $1,500 a month class, so the money doesn't scare me, lol. However, I don't want to take out another loan for that same reason. Do any MA suggest me skipping going to MUD and just busting my butt on my own (which I know most MA do) and just trying that way?? I know going to a school will be a perk, but is it worth it?? I am so confused
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aeni

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I went to makeup school. I should try and show you my "before school" work/posts on here compared to "during/after school" work. Basically with schools, you're paying them to teach you what it could take you years to learn on your own.

I honestly don't regret it and am very happy.
 

amyzon

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I'm dying to go and am planning to start in January. I think the experience and certification will be invaluable, personally. I will be eligible to work in a professional environment, and think about the possibilities! Especially with proximity to a large city (I live about half an hour from NYC), and if you go to weekend classes taught by MUAs with serious skills, you can build up some serious tools and raise your prices in the future... I think it opens a lot of doors in the future... Just IMO... I'm sooo looking forward to it... I'm so much more motivated to go to cosmetology school for skincare and makeup artistry school than I ever was for 4 year degrees that never really held my attention.
 

uh_oh_disco

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All MAs have to bust their butt eitherway to get noticed and hired in whichever more specific field they choose to go into. If you plan on going further with makeup, like specialising in something, I'd advise going to school for it. I've only been on my makeup course since September and already I've learnt SO much, plus, it isn't just the technical skills that you will be shown, your teachers will already know a huge amount about the industry and will be able to advise you and help you put together a fabulous portfolio. You are partly paying for the help of absoloute professionals.
 

amyzon

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Originally Posted by aeni
Ok - here's some of my pre-school posts with my final one being my portfolio of work I did when I was attending school. You'll definitely see a huge difference it made for me - if you can't, my instructors would say your eye hasn't been trained to see the flaws yet.

http://specktra.net/f166/1920s-fotn-64285/
http://specktra.net/f166/rococo-rice...ie-fotd-65415/
http://specktra.net/f166/tiger-liner-fotd-55545/
http://specktra.net/f183/another-headshot-shoot-58954/

Portfolio: Aeni Domme - Makeup Artist


WOW girl... Besides the theater and corrective makeup... I can see the subtlety... amazing... where did you study... amazing... I hope to one day have your talent!
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aeni

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Originally Posted by amyzon
WOW girl... Besides the theater and corrective makeup... I can see the subtlety... amazing... where did you study... amazing... I hope to one day have your talent!
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: I went to VFS. I both loved and hated being there. It was a great growing up experience to be in another country close to the home country but I also hated the weather lol. Check out their website and browse!
 

amyzon

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Originally Posted by aeni
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: I went to VFS. I both loved and hated being there. It was a great growing up experience to be in another country close to the home country but I also hated the weather lol. Check out their website and browse!


I'm looking at Parisian Beauty Academy in NJ... LOL not quite the same... but I love that they use MAC products
 

x.DOLLYMiX.x

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Iam the Uk and I think you need some experiance in make-up which is why Iam attending a make-up course. I asked MAC what I would need to apply and they said at least 3 year at a makeup school. I live in Scotland so it might be diffrerent everywere else. But I think if you have that you attended make-up school on your cv it really helps.
 

zwanpumkin

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Originally Posted by uh_oh_disco
All MAs have to bust their butt eitherway to get noticed and hired in whichever more specific field they choose to go into. If you plan on going further with makeup, like specialising in something, I'd advise going to school for it. I've only been on my makeup course since September and already I've learnt SO much, plus, it isn't just the technical skills that you will be shown, your teachers will already know a huge amount about the industry and will be able to advise you and help you put together a fabulous portfolio. You are partly paying for the help of absoloute professionals.

I know that regardless I have to bust my butt off, don't get me wrong!! But if it were up to me, I'd take most of the courses there and learn EVERYTHING. Unfortunately, I cannot quit my full time job and I'm barely lucky enough that there is still a possible opening for one of the 2 evening classes they will be offering next year. I would only take Beauty Make Up for now. As well as an Airbrushing seminar so that hopefully after that I can apply at MAC (which I haven't yet, I'm still a beginner!!) and see what direction Make Up will take me (eg. TV, Film, etc..) in and then go from there. .. Or does this all sound like a big waste?!? Ahh!!!
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zwanpumkin

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Originally Posted by x.DOLLYMiX.x
Iam the Uk and I think you need some experiance in make-up which is why Iam attending a make-up course. I asked MAC what I would need to apply and they said at least 3 year at a makeup school. I live in Scotland so it might be diffrerent everywere else. But I think if you have that you attended make-up school on your cv it really helps.

Yes, that is the reason my bf encourages me to go. And I agree!! But I feel there's hope.. His ex didn't go to school, just practiced a lot, and after a few tries got hired at MAC. Having said so, I don't think the prerequisites are as much as the are in the UK. Most Make-Up artists at MAC say they didn't go to school?
 

aeni

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Originally Posted by zwanpumkin
Yes, that is the reason my bf encourages me to go. And I agree!! But I feel there's hope.. His ex didn't go to school, just practiced a lot, and after a few tries got hired at MAC. Having said so, I don't think the prerequisites are as much as the are in the UK. Most Make-Up artists at MAC say they didn't go to school?

I know here in the US you don't have to go to school to apply to MAC. You just have to know how to apply makeup their way. In the end it's a selling position, I personally don't think or see it as a foot in the door.
 

amyzon

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Originally Posted by x.DOLLYMiX.x
Iam the Uk and I think you need some experiance in make-up which is why Iam attending a make-up course. I asked MAC what I would need to apply and they said at least 3 year at a makeup school. I live in Scotland so it might be diffrerent everywere else. But I think if you have that you attended make-up school on your cv it really helps.

THREE YEARS of school, just to work at MAC? Now this is just a MAC counter? That seems a bit ridiculous.... The course I'm looking at taking is 600 hours and would enable to work as an artist, esthetician, at spas, salons, etc... Of course I realize there are different standards from place to place but WOWZA
 

lucy_babyy

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i am interested in going to MUD as well, but i don't know if that's what i should do....

i would loveeee to work for m.a.c. as well as have my own boutique where i do makeup application tooo.

any suggestions???
 

mistella

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NO.
i believe you cannot be taught makeup. just my opinion.
once you get into the industry, NOBODY cares if you went to school or if you have a certificate. most established makeup artists will tell you "unlearn everything you've learned at makeup school"
my passion has always been makeup, i went to makeup school last year, didnt really learn much and in the end, i found out i didnt need it at all. everything i needed was already inside me, passion, drive & determination. as long as you have the talent & drive, thats all you need..
 

zwanpumkin

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Originally Posted by mistella
NO.
i believe you cannot be taught makeup. just my opinion.
once you get into the industry, NOBODY cares if you went to school or if you have a certificate. most established makeup artists will tell you "unlearn everything you've learned at makeup school"
my passion has always been makeup, i went to makeup school last year, didnt really learn much and in the end, i found out i didnt need it at all. everything i needed was already inside me, passion, drive & determination. as long as you have the talent & drive, thats all you need..


I totally understand that, but the upside I see in going is the practice. I cannot afford to be buying tons of products to practice with (ahemMACahem). If I went to school, I'd get all tools and (discounts for their products) products to practice with. And not just on the same people (Mom & Siblings) but different classmates. But I do believe; where there's a will, there's a way!! Thanks
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pixichik77

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Quote:
Originally Posted by mistella
NO.
i believe you cannot be taught makeup. just my opinion.
once you get into the industry, NOBODY cares if you went to school or if you have a certificate. most established makeup artists will tell you "unlearn everything you've learned at makeup school"
my passion has always been makeup, i went to makeup school last year, didnt really learn much and in the end, i found out i didnt need it at all. everything i needed was already inside me, passion, drive & determination. as long as you have the talent & drive, thats all you need..


I agree with the general idea, but disagree with the whole sentiment.

I have seen people who have not gone to school using products in dangerous or ineffective ways (telesis, glatzan, etc). Basically, when you pay for school, you are paying to have access to materials that would be costly or dangerous to "play" with (again, mainly prosthetic work, laying and dressing beards, etc) and you are paying for someone to show you how to use them safely and correctly. ALSO, how to find new uses for them.

You are also paying for contacts and exposure. If those teachers still work in the industry (as mine do) they will recommend you to better people than you may have access to stumping on your own w/o those contacts.

BUT i think the biggest factor in "should i or shouldn't I" is what KIND of makeup are you planning to do? Counter/wedding/basic... you probably don't need school. Bald caps, prosthetics, lace goods, film, etc: look into it.
 

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