Nars General Chat

GreenEyedAllie

Well-known member
I posted this in the CG thread, but if anyone happens upon the London Clinic pencil anywhere or has a BU they no longer want/would part with, please PM me. I'm still kicking myself for hesitating. By the time I realized it was NARS.com exclusive, too late.

I'm curious about all these brands getting into liquid mattes when they seem on their way out. Most people I've chatted with are excited for the glossy resurgence. I'm passing for now on them.
 

LadyBug13

Well-known member
What happened to the Animal Testing thread? I saw NARS posted on it.

I think the person who created it may have asked for it to be removed.

I thought it was an interesting thread to make, considering the person who created it disclosed they had never bought anything from NARS before.
 

awickedshape

Well-known member
I had no idea they were cruelty-free....meaning I assumed they already sold in China like all major brands. Can't believe they haven't been. That's one heck of a market to miss out on.

It's something I'm still learning about and people are understandably passionate about it.
They're getting lots of feedback in the comments.
 

GreenEyedAllie

Well-known member
It's something I'm still learning about and people are understandably passionate about it.
They're getting lots of feedback in the comments.

As well they should! Regardless of your thoughts about the topic, they're trying to play both sides. People are not that stupid.

If they actually cared about cruelty-free, then they would boycott selling to China. Imagine if all big companies did that? But as it is, that's not going to happen, so NARS is simply missing out on a ton of profit. They would get less flack if they owned their motivations IMO...this whole change from the inside/NGO business is crap. Since when does China care what non-government organizations think?
 

Monsy

Well-known member
I think the person who created it may have asked for it to be removed.

I thought it was an interesting thread to make, considering the person who created it disclosed they had never bought anything from NARS before.

wasn't it started by katred and then someone who never bought nars before commented how they will never buy them now hahah
 

Kaidan

Well-known member
Isn't Nars owned by Shiseido? I mean, Shiseido already sells in China and Nars was their only "independent" brand left that was still "cruelty-free" that had yet ventured off to sell in China. It doesn't surprise me at all that they'd make the decision to sell in China, after all, business interests such as expansion and revenue are always the first priority in every company. I guess it's in the same loop as MAC and a few European brands that are in the gray area of knowing that animal testing is wrong, yet prefer to expand business opportunities for the sake of brand awareness, financial gains, and gather a new following. It won't stop people from buying their products. It may be disappointing for some of course and I can't blame some people who "lost" an "iconic" brand for straying out of their original standards, but I don't think it should get the lynch mob treatment because real talk, how many people really did knew that Nars was cruelty free? They really kept it quiet for a long time tbh.

I was going to post in the deleted thread to the user who contradicted herself about a brand that pulled out from selling in China for financial reasons, but I'll post it here instead. Urban Decay was the brand that pulled out of China but it wasn't for financial reasons like they originally stated. The real reason was because they couldn't take the heat from their disappointed die-hard fans due to it being a sudden decision and felt like a big slap in the face for many long-term customers that a brand that always took pride in being cruelty-free and even offering vegan options would sell out that way. With that they started loosing revenue really fast and their brand recognition was on shaky ground because they underestimated the backlash they'd receive, thus going for the financial reasons excuse. It all worked out in the end for UD, but the damage was done for the hardcore "cruelty-free" fans.
 

katred

Specktra Bestie
I started the thread after I saw discussion of the change in policy on instagram. I thought there might be people here who were interested. I'd forgotten that, generally speaking, the subject of animal testing actually tends to inflame tempers the other way
(i.e., people tend to be critical of those who avoid companies that directly employ animal testing, as a method of "harm reduction").
[MENTION=35539]Monsy[/MENTION] I don't think you need to worry about having started a fight- a LOT of people, including longtime members, liked your post, so I think you were very much speaking for the Specktra majority.

I decided to delete the thread, because I felt like it was just going to result in people getting angry with each other and because the information has been made available in many places where it will reach people who are interested in the issue.
 

Monsy

Well-known member
katred I think you had good intention and it is topic that can be discussed a lot... but some people can keep the convo civilized.

anyway did you all see I posted pic in the thread about the new stick foundation ? I have high hopes for it
 

Rinstar

Well-known member
katred I think you had good intention and it is topic that can be discussed a lot... but some people can keep the convo civilized.

anyway did you all see I posted pic in the thread about the new stick foundation ? I have high hopes for it

I can't wait for the new stick foundation! Hope it is good!!
 

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