Pat McGrath Beauty

Prettypackages · May 18, 2016

I'm not expecting some type of heavy embossed casing. I just expect the the labels to be put on neatly without any bubbles or creasing, and the brush could've been stamped instead of a crooked label slapped on them. Even the label at the bottom of the pigment could've been done better. Maybe a heavier paper stock? Like what MAC uses. One day on set, and that sucker is going to melt off or the writing will smear. I'm technically a mua now, so I get what you are saying, they just could've spent more time on that. I did say, well, if the packaging is this bad, the product must be awesome. We'll see. I've read a few so so reviews from people I trust.

montREALady said:
I think what is happening is people are thinking of it as a collector's item and looking for special packaging, but they were made for MUA's and their kits, so lightweight, easy to carry, etc. It's supposed to be "her backstage secret weapon" that she is now sharing with other artists and the world. Most artists switch their makeup into smaller, travel-friendly containers. We don't care about special packaging. But yes, for personal use, give me all the special packaging, so I totally get what you mean. I didn't buy this for my kit, I bought it for myself as I'm sure a lot of people did since it was sold at Sephora! Mine is still wrapped in the Sephora tissue paper! I haven't opened it.

Prettypackages · May 18, 2016

GreenEyedAllie said:
I guess my thing is similar to one or two reviewers on Sephora. About $70 for the kit...what do you get? You get a generous amount of pigment (especially given how little you need to use), a Japanese brush, and a dual-ended highlighter/balm product. However much would you pay for a pigment? A Japanese (granted not Hakuhodo etc. quality but still)? A stick highlighter? A balm? My guess is individually more than $70 even. That said, I am also disappointed by the cheap and sloppy packaging.

Right... This is what bothered me. Not that it should be a heavy Chanel/Guerlain case.

Why did we need the balm though? LOL when swatched it didn't feel too greasy, but I did use a light hand.

Prettypackages · May 18, 2016

How did I miss this and Allie's post?

I wonder who thought the sequined inserts were a good idea, and why? I was able to get everything out without spillage, but... that was just dumb. Unless people are using them to create looks? LOL

Ingenue said:
Oooooh I cannot get on board with this theory. As a practicing MUA for longer than I care to admit, this packaging is horrible and impractical. And most highly effective pro products that are not consumer ready still come in better, more practical packaging... meaning you can access it with one hand and interchange brushes and fingers seamlessly. The pro maquillage palette is nothing to look at, but damn if it's not one of the best makeup investments of my life because of quality, practicality and ease of use. And the packaging is still better because someone had the foresight to etch the brand (vs. stickers) on the case.

There isn't a valid excuse on the planet for that brush. Even ELF has etched brushes. Cheap, crooked, bubbly labels do not a pro product make. Honestly she could have spent less on those billion sequins and space saver packaging and invested in better packaging. The product QUALITY is on par with Becca, and Becca still wins the packaging war. This was attached to a name, hence the insane markup. And as one of the most respected names in the industry, she should have demanded better representation in physical product form.

And if it was a pro product, it should have been in pro stores. Not Sephora. I love and respect Ms. McGrath beyond words, but that doesn't mean she gets a pass for quarter-measures. Even Kevyn Aucoin (RIP. The reason I'm even an MUA in the first place) got it together when people started making noise.

Are you talking about that $400 one that has, what appears to be, every shade in the universe? I remember admiring that years ago thinking, this is why I'm not an artist. What do you do with that? LOL

awickedshape · May 18, 2016

boschicka said:
Deep breaths. Fight it. You can do it!

Yes!
Lol

awickedshape · May 18, 2016

montREALady said:
Why are you fighting it? If you can buy all those big high-end brands, you can buy Pat! Support yuh peeps! Lolll!

I still haven't opened mine yet btw. Lolll. It's too nice!!

I would love to, but I only want the pigment. If I got that at a reduced price, hell yeah lol
The rest would not be used and I have several other highlighters already when I don't even use highlighter every day.
If this was a year ago, before I got the others, it would be "on like boiled corn"!
There is a TF that I want to check out, too. But I have to see the price first.
My friend who gets most of my makeup that I give away doesn't use highlighter... yet lol
I want to give her my Chanel Camelia de Plumes but the pattern does not look pretty where I used from.

I just love gold on WoC!

Prettypackages said:
I haven't played with mine yet, but I will say the packaging is NOT worth the price. I do wish the brush was a llittle bit firmer.
BUT, I'll still probably keep it. THe swatches on line look purty!!! LOL

Lol! I cannot deal with that balm on me lol

Ingenue said:
Oooooh I cannot get on board with this theory. As a practicing MUA for longer than I care to admit, this packaging is horrible and impractical. And most highly effective pro products that are not consumer ready still come in better, more practical packaging... meaning you can access it with one hand and interchange brushes and fingers seamlessly. The pro maquillage palette is nothing to look at, but damn if it's not one of the best makeup investments of my life because of quality, practicality and ease of use. And the packaging is still better because someone had the foresight to etch the brand (vs. stickers) on the case.

There isn't a valid excuse on the planet for that brush. Even ELF has etched brushes. Cheap, crooked, bubbly labels do not a pro product make. Honestly she could have spent less on those billion sequins and space saver packaging and invested in better packaging. The product QUALITY is on par with Becca, and Becca still wins the packaging war. This was attached to a name, hence the insane markup. And as one of the most respected names in the industry, she should have demanded better representation in physical product form.

And if it was a pro product, it should have been in pro stores. Not Sephora. I love and respect Ms. McGrath beyond words, but that doesn't mean she gets a pass for quarter-measures. Even Kevyn Aucoin (RIP. The reason I'm even an MUA in the first place) got it together when people started making noise.

That brush sounds like an odd lapse.
Like that itchy-looking Guerlain meteorites brush.

Shars · May 18, 2016

awickedshape said:
I would love to, but I only want the pigment. If I got that at a reduced price, hell yeah lol
The rest would not be used and I have several other highlighters already when I don't even use highlighter every day.
If this was a year ago, before I got the others, it would be "on like boiled corn"!
There is a TF that I want to check out, too. But I have to see the price first.
My friend who gets most of my makeup that I give away doesn't use highlighter... yet lol
I want to give her my Chanel Camelia de Plumes but the pattern does not look pretty where I used from.

I just love gold on WoC!

Lol! I cannot deal with that balm on me lol

That brush sounds like an odd lapse.
Like that itchy-looking Guerlain meteorites brush.

Girl you know the heat and humidity here would just laugh at us and that balm. That's the main reason I passed as well. Like you, if I could just get a highlighter, I would cave. I'm more interested in the Nude one though, because of the pink shift. I picked up THE most beautiful highlight powders from Danessa Myricks!! I can't wait to use them. I'm all out of space on my current vanity set up though.... ruh roh.

GreenEyedAllie · May 18, 2016

Prettypackages said:
Right... This is what bothered me. Not that it should be a heavy Chanel/Guerlain case.

Why did we need the balm though? LOL when swatched it didn't feel too greasy, but I did use a light hand.

I use it for nighttime looks to really amp up the pigment because it sticks to it.

awickedshape · May 18, 2016

Shars said:
Girl you know the heat and humidity here would just laugh at us and that balm. That's the main reason I passed as well. Like you, if I could just get a highlighter, I would cave. I'm more interested in the Nude one though, because of the pink shift. I picked up THE most beautiful highlight powders from Danessa Myricks!! I can't wait to use them. I'm all out of space on my current vanity set up though.... ruh roh.

For real lol
My spf50 and that hot sun
Oil slick lol
I love gold but that nuance in Nude is lovely
Nice! I don't know that brand, will get to Googling

montREALady · May 18, 2016

Prettypackages said:
I'm not expecting some type of heavy embossed casing. I just expect the the labels to be put on neatly without any bubbles or creasing, and the brush could've been stamped instead of a crooked label slapped on them. Even the label at the bottom of the pigment could've been done better. Maybe a heavier paper stock? Like what MAC uses. One day on set, and that sucker is going to melt off or the writing will smear. I'm technically a mua now, so I get what you are saying, they just could've spent more time on that. I did say, well, if the packaging is this bad, the product must be awesome. We'll see. I've read a few so so reviews from people I trust.

I didn't open mine yet to see all that. But I have heard people talk about it and what I said before, I either read somewhere or heard someone address it on video. I actually think the person said the same thing, it's what's inside that's awesome. I guess I'll see. $72 for 3 products and a brush is the only way to justify it in the meantime... Well that and thankfully I used a gift card. Lmaooo! My own cash and it would have stayed at Sephora!

montREALady · May 18, 2016

awickedshape said:
For real lol
My spf50 and that hot sun
Oil slick lol
I love gold but that nuance in Nude is lovely
Nice! I don't know that brand, will get to Googling

Danessa is also African American, she does makeup seminars, etc. Her stuff is nice. I almost got Nude but told myself for $72 let me get a color I would use more. Lolll. Yeah that balm is for cold-ass winter. But mainly to get the dewy look in photo shoots where the climate is controlled, lmao!

Shars · May 18, 2016

awickedshape said:
For real lol
My spf50 and that hot sun
Oil slick lol
I love gold but that nuance in Nude is lovely
Nice! I don't know that brand, will get to Googling

Yesss!! She's another WOC reknowned makeup artist and educator and has a line of makeup. Her focus is on enhancing skin and so on but her line has loads of pigments that are eye and lip safe, as well as illuminators you can mix in with any makeup, eye lashes etc. Her website is http://www.danessamyricksbeauty.com/

Prettypackages · May 18, 2016

Ohhhh Ohhh tell me more about those. How much do you love them? Any swatches? I've been looking at her highlight powders. I ordrered an illuminating powder from Sephora, by Cinema Secrets, and it reminds me of those.

Shars said:
Girl you know the heat and humidity here would just laugh at us and that balm. That's the main reason I passed as well. Like you, if I could just get a highlighter, I would cave. I'm more interested in the Nude one though, because of the pink shift. I picked up THE most beautiful highlight powders from Danessa Myricks!! I can't wait to use them. I'm all out of space on my current vanity set up though.... ruh roh.

montREALady · May 18, 2016

Ingenue said:
Oooooh I cannot get on board with this theory. As a practicing MUA for longer than I care to admit, this packaging is horrible and impractical. And most highly effective pro products that are not consumer ready still come in better, more practical packaging... meaning you can access it with one hand and interchange brushes and fingers seamlessly. The pro maquillage palette is nothing to look at, but damn if it's not one of the best makeup investments of my life because of quality, practicality and ease of use. And the packaging is still better because someone had the foresight to etch the brand (vs. stickers) on the case.

There isn't a valid excuse on the planet for that brush. Even ELF has etched brushes. Cheap, crooked, bubbly labels do not a pro product make. Honestly she could have spent less on those billion sequins and space saver packaging and invested in better packaging. The product QUALITY is on par with Becca, and Becca still wins the packaging war. This was attached to a name, hence the insane markup. And as one of the most respected names in the industry, she should have demanded better representation in physical product form.

And if it was a pro product, it should have been in pro stores. Not Sephora. I love and respect Ms. McGrath beyond words, but that doesn't mean she gets a pass for quarter-measures. Even Kevyn Aucoin (RIP. The reason I'm even an MUA in the first place) got it together when people started making noise.

Oooh I'm afraid to even open it now! I have to find where I saw what I wrote before. They weren't from Pat's camp but they addressed the packaging debate and it made sense at the time but what you're saying makes more sense. I didn't read/hear that it was Pro but that it was supposed to replicate what she's been using for years without focus on the packaging, but the product. I didn't expect this much lack of focus on it! She's been commenting on my IG, I should ask her! Lol

Prettypackages · May 18, 2016

GreenEyedAllie said:
I use it for nighttime looks to really amp up the pigment because it sticks to it.

Ahhhh that makes sense. As it was already said, it just might be my winter product. I produce oil just looking at myself in the mirror. LOL

Shars said:
Yesss!! She's another WOC reknowned makeup artist and educator and has a line of makeup. Her focus is on enhancing skin and so on but her line has loads of pigments that are eye and lip safe, as well as illuminators you can mix in with any makeup, eye lashes etc. Her website is http://www.danessamyricksbeauty.com/

Her story is so motivating to me, I can't wait to dig into her products.

montREALady · May 18, 2016

Shars said:
Girl you know the heat and humidity here would just laugh at us and that balm. That's the main reason I passed as well. Like you, if I could just get a highlighter, I would cave. I'm more interested in the Nude one though, because of the pink shift. I picked up THE most beautiful highlight powders from Danessa Myricks!! I can't wait to use them. I'm all out of space on my current vanity set up though.... ruh roh.

I was supposed to go back to her booth at The Makeup Show but so little time. I needed a next day!

montREALady · May 18, 2016

Prettypackages said:
How did I miss this and Allie's post?

I wonder who thought the sequined inserts were a good idea, and why? I was able to get everything out without spillage, but... that was just dumb. Unless people are using them to create looks? LOL

Are you talking about that $400 one that has, what appears to be, every shade in the universe? I remember admiring that years ago thinking, this is why I'm not an artist. What do you do with that? LOL

I definitely use sequins on the face when I'm doing Carnival makeup! Loll

I think the sequins were a way to blind people from the packaging. I don't even want to open mine anymore.

awickedshape · May 18, 2016

montREALady said:
Danessa is also African American, she does makeup seminars, etc. Her stuff is nice. I almost got Nude but told myself for $72 let me get a color I would use more. Lolll. Yeah that balm is for cold-ass winter. But mainly to get the dewy look in photo shoots where the climate is controlled, lmao!

Lol
My face gets oily in the AC at work I Can't Even lol

Shars said:
Yesss!! She's another WOC reknowned makeup artist and educator and has a line of makeup. Her focus is on enhancing skin and so on but her line has loads of pigments that are eye and lip safe, as well as illuminators you can mix in with any makeup, eye lashes etc. Her website is http://www.danessamyricksbeauty.com/

Enhancing skin ��
Sounds interesting!

I kinda gave up on looking for Indian bloggers close to my skin tone. Maybe I should try again.
I remember starting to wear makeup a couple years ago and buying MAC lipsticks that did not look the same as on the bloggers and realizing what was happening lol

Shars · May 18, 2016

Prettypackages said:
Ohhhh Ohhh tell me more about those. How much do you love them? Any swatches? I've been looking at her highlight powders. I ordrered an illuminating powder from Sephora, by Cinema Secrets, and it reminds me of those.

They are soooo beautiful Pretty!! Some of the shades have really unusual shifts and a little bit goes a long way. I'm still in that unpacked mode where everything is out the suitcases but haven't been put away so I'll try to get some swatches soon. The metal pigments, you can mix into lipstick, nail polish, eyeshadow, highlighter..... basically anything! I got the shades Love Story, Supreme, Pharoah and another colour with a pink shift. I'll have to check the exact 4 enlight illuminators I got but what I remember from them is that they aren't chunky in the least and spread really nicely even without a mixing medium. I much preferred the texture on these compared to the Melanie Mills ones I picked up at IMATS last year!

montREALady · May 18, 2016

Shars said:
They are soooo beautiful Pretty!! Some of the shades have really unusual shifts and a little bit goes a long way. I'm still in that unpacked mode where everything is out the suitcases but haven't been put away so I'll try to get some swatches soon. The metal pigments, you can mix into lipstick, nail polish, eyeshadow, highlighter..... basically anything! I got the shades Love Story, Supreme, Pharoah and another colour with a pink shift. I'll have to check the exact 4 enlight illuminators I got but what I remember from them is that they aren't chunky in the least and spread really nicely even without a mixing medium. I much preferred the texture on these compared to the Melanie Mills ones I picked up at IMATS last year!

I was just going to ask if you tried the Melanie Mills one. I was also supposed to go back to her booth to get the lotions. Those were nice.

awickedshape · May 18, 2016

Prettypackages said:
Ahhhh that makes sense. As it was already said, it just might be my winter product. I produce oil just looking at myself in the mirror. LOL

Her story is so motivating to me, I can't wait to dig into her products.

Same

montREALady said:
I definitely use sequins on the face when I'm doing Carnival makeup! Loll

I think the sequins were a way to blind people from the packaging. I don't even want to open mine anymore.

That's half your Mas costume :queen:

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