Black Hair Dye - How To get It Out

Poison_Ivy

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hey i know the feeling i am a hairdresser and i have made the same mistake unfortounatly there is no good solution...it is going to be damaging but th eonly thing you can do is a soap cap it is a few scoops of bleach(hair bleack not the other kind) and shampoo you mix it wet it and lather like you would with shampoo let it sit for about 10 mins tops you can do this every two weeks but i wouldnt do it more than 3 times o ther than that thats all unless you just grow it out
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Poison_Ivy

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DO not use a stripper a stripper is nothing but bleach and it is usually the most damaging thing you can do even most salons refuse to do strippers
 

almmaaa

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The only way to get rid of it is to bleach it all let it get to an orangey color and thats its. The only way to get rid of it!!!!! Never dye your hair black rule #1 in a womans life!!!! LOL
 

Mabelle

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i have a bit of expirience in this feild.
wheni was 16 i dyed my naturally dark blond hair black (what a fool i was!) and then, 6 months later, i wanted to go chocolate brown. My friend and i fancied ourselves hair experts and bleached the shit out of my alreday dry hair. Result= Orangy crap hair with MELTED TIPS!!! thats right the last inch or so of my hair melted together. I cut it off myself (and managed to give myself an awesome haircut! what a horse shoe up my ass i must have had) and my hair color (once i added the brown dye) looked amazing. That being said, i was effing lucky. Even so, the metling hair thing is something i will never forget.

Now as for a colour stripper; a had a hair stylist royaly f up my hair this past xmas. The result was my hairdresser friend had to cover my blochy orange mess of a hair (i was going for julianne moore coppery red) with a dark mohagany. that was in December. In Febuary i went to a salon to get the colour stripped out to do the julianne moore colour i wanted. The cover up colour had faded a lot, so i only had the colour remover on for about 15 20 mins. The dye took great. My hair was dry, but nothing horrible. I just needed to do some deep conditioning. Mind you theres a section of my hairthat has moderate breakage going on, but this is due to the fact that that section was bleached (and dyed every colour of the rainbow) for the past 3 years. Whenever i dye over it (with my mothly touch up) i deep condition for an hour every week, and now im fine and dandy.

If you decided to do a colour removal do it in a salon. For some people, they dont seem to damage hair at all. For others, it makes they super dry and brittle. Get a consult from a knowledgeable stylist. If you're hair isnt in bad shape, some good deep conditioning treatments should be able to right the damage that stripping can cause.
good luck!!

sry about any rambling/ no sense making.
 

Dottles

Member
About two months or so ago I decided I wanted to have a deep purple hair colour, so off I went to buy it. I'd used the exact hair dye on a friend a year or so ago so I figured it'd all turn out a-okay. Boy was I wrong! It turned out black at the bottom with a maroon type red on the top. It was HORRIBLE. Of course I then decided I'd dye it blue - I didn't wait, I wasn't going to walk around looking like an idiot. So I went and got the dark blue hair dye. Put that on top the day after I tried to dye it purple - what did it do? The blue and red mixed and TURNED it purple. I was really happy with it, etc. Couple weeks later I took some pictures of myself and OMG. I looked like a ghost! I really did. :|

So off I trailed to the salon to say, "HELP! I have a wedding to go to!" I spent about 5hrs on in the salon and £56 later it was fixed to a medium brown. My hair was bleached for an hour, it turned orange/ginger so they then had to fill it in to get rid of the patchiness of it. After that they then applied the dark brown on top. Thankfully it is much better, but I think it's fading, or maybe my eyesight is going, I'm not really sure. However I don't have any damage. I'm very lucky considering it's very, very rare that I condition my hair because I hate how smooth it makes it. I can't manage it at ALL when it's conditioned. So maybe once every few months I'll do so. But after all the colours, bleach and more colours I still have really good hair. I'm impressed.

I now want to go black on the bottom and electric blue and hot pink on the top. We'll see how it goes when I get the balls to do it!
 

MAC_addiction<3

Well-known member
I Have found the Affinage color eraser thanks to Korms ^^
but now im stuck on finding a filler (e.g. goldwell pre color)
I can't find one anywhere, ive searched ebay..searched google
but there are none on any UK websites. I'm not going to use the
color eraser until ive got the filler, pureply because i wont be
able to dye my hair over it..it will be too porous.
Can someone help me out on either where i can find the goldwell
product or another filler? I would realllllly appreciate it
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thanks
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MAC_addiction<3

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Originally Posted by Poison_Ivy
hey i know the feeling i am a hairdresser and i have made the same mistake unfortounatly there is no good solution...it is going to be damaging but th eonly thing you can do is a soap cap it is a few scoops of bleach(hair bleack not the other kind) and shampoo you mix it wet it and lather like you would with shampoo let it sit for about 10 mins tops you can do this every two weeks but i wouldnt do it more than 3 times o ther than that thats all unless you just grow it out
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Is this just as damaging as bleaching the black colour out? as i really need a mild solution because its taken me 2 years to sort my damaged hair out and i don't want to have to go through all of that again. So you literally put a few scoops of bleach in a bowl and mix it with shampoo? any special kind of shampoo? and whats the ratio you should do it to? (e.g. 2 scoops bleach to 4 scoops shampoo)

thanks
x
 

MAC_addiction<3

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I used The Color eraser from affinage and washed my hair about 10 times to get it out then used the post eraser and it came out a browny redy color (i had red on before the black) i know now that i needed to use the color eraser a second time to try and get the red out but because my hairs long i'd used it all so after i used my color equalise treatment to help the porosity of my hair i put a brown dye over it and it turned out BLACK..but my roots are ginger :S i know people say you should use a shade 1 or 2 lighter than you want but i did and it still turned out black..its my birthday monday and i desperatly need to sort my hair out..i need to get it all brown and get rid of my ginger roots. I think Im going to buy 2 lots of the color eraser and try again
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im soo upset ive spent all day on it and wasted about £25. I know so many people are going to say go to the salon and have it done and i wish i did now but its too late and i havent got the money now so im going to try and use the eraser again..i'm pretty sure it'll work :S any1 got any advice?
 

civicbabe627

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Yeah - those color erasers don't work. I used Colorfix and it turned my hair that brownish red that you were talking about - well I was gonna leave it that color because it actually looked GOOD. Next day I washed my hair and it was freaking BLACK again! Makes no logical sense, but whatever. So I used it again and put medium brown dye on it, and it's still black.

Evil, evil black dye. =( Your only option is bleach, I'm afraid.
 

Korms

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Originally Posted by MAC_addiction<3
I used The Color eraser from affinage and washed my hair about 10 times to get it out then used the post eraser and it came out a browny redy color (i had red on before the black) i know now that i needed to use the color eraser a second time to try and get the red out but because my hairs long i'd used it all so after i used my color equalise treatment to help the porosity of my hair i put a brown dye over it and it turned out BLACK..but my roots are ginger :S i know people say you should use a shade 1 or 2 lighter than you want but i did and it still turned out black..its my birthday monday and i desperatly need to sort my hair out..i need to get it all brown and get rid of my ginger roots. I think Im going to buy 2 lots of the color eraser and try again
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im soo upset ive spent all day on it and wasted about £25. I know so many people are going to say go to the salon and have it done and i wish i did now but its too late and i havent got the money now so im going to try and use the eraser again..i'm pretty sure it'll work :S any1 got any advice?


How long did you leave the new colour on for? I would only have left it on for about a quarter of the time suggested. Did you use semi or permanent? Semi would have been a preferable option.

The reason it probably turned out black is because there was still some black pigment left in your hair, you couldn't see it before you re-dyed it because the colour molecues hadn't re-oxidised, until you used the dye of course. The developer in that would cause the colour to swell and return your hair to black, hence why I said to wait a few days before re-dying. Colour removers do work but they can't always get all the pigment out in one go, it all depends on how much black dye you put on your hair.

You may as well go to the salon now, it's going to cost you £40 at least if you want to use the Eraser two more times and you still might end up with black hair. When I did my colour removal I did it about 4 times over the space of about 2 months, without applying dye in between. Like I said before, these things require time and patience and it is unrealistic to expect it to happen in one day.

I really must reiterate that doing any chemical process at home is a gamble and you must do research before doing so to ensure that you understand colour theory and chemical processes, and even then it can still go wrong.

Sorry to hear you didn't have any success
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Korms

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No, mine didn't (I was going from red, which I explained a few posts back) it went golden blonde immediately after then oxidised to a light red-brown. Subsequant removals got me to a pale golden brown. It could have been for a number of reasons, maybe I didn't have as much dye to remove from my hair so there were less of the colour molecules to re-oxidise. The hair returning to the colour it was before is not a result of the colour remover not working, it is normally because of the amount of pigment in the hair that needs to be removed. The remover causes the colour molecules to shrink, not to be stripped like with bleach, so they are small enough to be washed from the hair. If there is a lot of pigment, and thus molecules, in the hair the rinsing process may not reach all of them and the cannot be removed. So once the remover is rinsed the hair may look lighter because the molecules have not returned to their normal size, but one re-oxidisation takes place they swell and the pigment returns, there is just less of it than last time so repeated removals eventually clear the hair of colour.

That is my understanding of it anyway.

This YouTube video kind of explains what I mean about the colour molecules shrinking. See how the water turns clear?

YouTube - Color Vanish - Hair Color Removal

And what she says about it being "magic", it's really not, it's chemistry. Haha.
 

Korms

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Originally Posted by MAC_addiction<3
thats really cleverrr, that videos helped. so is this vanish just another colour remover like the affinage one then?
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Yeah, it's pretty much exactly the same product. It works the same way for sure.
 

civicbabe627

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Ooooh - I get it, it all makes sense to me now! Lol. Yeah, I had been dying my hair black for 2 years, so that's probably why it wouldn't come out. Thanks for the info!
 

MAC_addiction<3

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Well my roots are sorted now i got some dye and died them so i no longer have ginger roots phew lol! But my hair is still darker than id like its a very very dark brown but not quite black! I suppose i did get somewhere then as i did remove tha black lol..although it does still look black in some lights. Im Hoping its going to fade, i onmly want it ONE shade lighter and then it'l be near my natural colour and my roots won't look so bad when they grow in. I might go to the hairdressers in the future if it doesnt fade & see if theres anything they can do to lift it one shade lighter without using bleach. I'll have to see whether i grow to like it or not :S Thanks for all your help everyone x
 

cupcake_x

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Wash your hair with dish soap and it will all come out, even permanent colors.
Believe me, I had freshly dyed black hair a few months ago and I washed it with dish soap (experimental!) and ALL my dye came out.
 

joannaj

New member
Hey to all those confused girlies wanting to turn their coloured black hair black to brown....my hair is naturally a very dark brown- in the hairdressing world is is a number 2 (with 1 being black and 10 being blonde). I have been colouring my hair now for 20years, been on hair & beauty courses and got a batchelors degree in art. I know my colours lol. Rule number 1: Do not try colouring over black hair colour in a lighter shade, even if it contains strong peroxide. It will not work. It will only work on naturally black hair with no colour on it. Tint does not lighten tint!! Rule number 2: Do not use stronger than 9%/30 Vol Developer, it will break you hair and it will then fall down your plug hole! Rule number 3: Bleach will only lighten your hair up to 6 shades lighter than your own in one go, Eg, if your hair is dark brown naturally (number 2 or 3) but you have coloured it black, you are a number one, the lightest it will go is a number 6 or 7. This is still classed as blonde, but it is a very dark blonde, like a mousy brown. There are a few different ways to lighten your hair at home. The first is to bleach it, but only till the black turns to a reddish orange brown. (do not leave bleach on black hair, coloured or natural, until it goes yellow) as it will break and you WILL cry. Just leave it on long enough to lighten it enough to colour over it in a darker shade. Choose an ash quasi colour and re-colour once lightened. You need an ash to cancel out the orange/red tones that bleach causes. you know that a colour is ash because it always has a .1 after the depth of shade, for example, a medium brown is a number 5, but an ash medium brown is a 5.1, avoid 5.3 as it has gold tones and will make it ginger, brown (unless you want it that colour). The second way to lighten coloured black hair is to apply a gentle colour remover. This will remove permanent colour from out of the hair shaft so you will be left with your natural colour making it easier to re-colour in a lighter shade than your own. I use Affinage ERASER hair colour remover. You can get it online or from a hair/beauty wholesaler. This is the kindest way to remove black hair colourant without too much damage. Make sure you use plenty of clarifying shampoo and deep condition afterwards. The third way is to wash it and wash it several times a day in baby shampoo, clarifying shampoo with a little fairy liquid. This will force the black to fade quick making it easier to re-colour once faded out enough, black hair colourant never completely fades, even semi-permanent ones. The forth way to lighten black colour is to gradually introduce slices of highlights into the hair by having highlights done at your salon every 4-6 weeks, they will bleach strands of hair and then use a colour over the bleach, this will eventually rid you of your black dye, and is probably the safest way. Please choose a well known hairdresser with at least 10 years experience when having your colour corrected as it takes years to understand how chemicals affect the hair and how they work, also it is a very complicated task and only a confident hairdresser will do a good job. Hope my little wisdom helps you decide what to do.
 

whatzoedid

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This happened to me, I dyed it black and it went HORRIBLE! My hair went like straw and there was nothing a hairdresser could do until it faded! But the best thing to do is use Blonde shampoo it just helps it lighten the black, and then I got like a conditioner and kept it over night and that helped it get slightly better!
 
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