Gardasil vaccine.....yes or no???

HOTasFCUK

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Hey everyone! So i have a few questions! Has anybody here received this vaccination or knows somebody that has? What do you think about it? I went to the doctor's yesterday and i asked her about it and she saids it would be a really smart thing to do. Next week, i'm going to get a test to make sure i've never had HPV and then we can start the vaccines. But now i did a quick search on yahoo and although i found good info about it and many praises, i also found an article about HPV vaccine related deaths & other bad side effects! Its pretty scary and now i'm starting to think maybe i should wait??? That's why i'm hoping you guys here could give me any info you have and your thoughts or personal experience with this! Thanks!!!
 

HOTasFCUK

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Owwwww LOL yeah i heard you will experience pain around the shot area or tenderness. I'm not scared of needles but more of the side effects after like nausea!
 

deven.marie

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my mom works at planned parenthood and has advised me not to get it. she says that there hasnt been enough testing so you never know what could develop 10 or 15 years down the road as a result of the vaccine. my friend got it, and she said it was very painful, just like shimmer said. also she said it was red and swollen for about a week. i'm not totally against it, these are just some of the negative aspects to keep in mind.
 

pumpkincat210

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yeah i heard it was a very very painful shot. and some people may faint after it is given.
I am opting out when my daughters turn 13 or whenever they made it mandatory. I think it's too young.
If you are having unprotected sex with more than one partner it is a good idea. You can still get hpv using a condom so its good for you and your partner to both get checked out.
Eventually the vaccine will be given to men as well because they are carriers too.
 

TUPRNUT

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Do your homework! I'm not sure this vaccine is being marketed well... It appears that most individuals who get cervical cancer from HPV have an existing underlying autoimmune problem such as lupus or HIV. There is a very small percentage of women who meet this criteria, so the question is why are they pushing all young girls to get this? I don't think this the product has been around long enough to understand the physical consequences of vaccinating preteen girls or even 20-something women.
 

HOTasFCUK

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I'm really starting to think against getting it. I read somewhere that only 11,000 girls have been given it (i think that stat may only be in Canada) and i don't think there's enough research or long-term data to back everything up. I still enjoy reading what everyone is posting so keep it up! Thanks!
 

gigglegirl

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Hmmm I was going to investigate it here up in Canada as well, see what my doc. says. So you were right, but I read online that it was 11,000 people in the testing they did, from all over the world. Ugh it makes me nervous now, b/c there seem to be drugs that get approved (this was approved in 06) but later down the line they are pulled off the shelves due to possible links to serious ailments. This one line I read made me nervous: "The most common side effect is soreness at the injection site. CDC, working with the FDA, will continue to monitor the safety of the vaccine after it is in general use."

Ummm so I revoke my last statement, I don't think I will seriously pursue this. It only protects against 4 types, and there are quite a few more strains not vaccinated. I just don't like the idea that there's a good likelihood that many women over their lifetime have a good possibility of contracting a strain of HPV and won't know it (hence the pap tests).
 

Obreathemykiss

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Originally Posted by HOTasFCUK
Hey everyone! So i have a few questions! Has anybody here received this vaccination or knows somebody that has? What do you think about it? I went to the doctor's yesterday and i asked her about it and she saids it would be a really smart thing to do. Next week, i'm going to get a test to make sure i've never had HPV and then we can start the vaccines. But now i did a quick search on yahoo and although i found good info about it and many praises, i also found an article about HPV vaccine related deaths & other bad side effects! Its pretty scary and now i'm starting to think maybe i should wait??? That's why i'm hoping you guys here could give me any info you have and your thoughts or personal experience with this! Thanks!!!


What's interesting is they did the study before it was approved by the FDA here in Alb. NM...basically there were many girls who contributed and were guinea pigs for it.


From my understanding, though there are possible side effects, the vaccination can only do more good than harm.

Currently, I am contributing to a second study in which there is another HPV vaccine that is pre-market right now. I have been doing it almost 4 years now. It's being run by the University of New Mexico, the same University that did the first study I mentioned. It is a blind study, I'm not sure if I got the control or the actual vaccine, and won't know until the study is through. It is getting closer to being approved. I have not had any issues, though I don't know what I got...

The only thing I can say is it is VERY tender afterward. I got shot in the arm 3 separate times...it hurt for a day or so and my arm felt heavy, but I am perfectly normal!!

My Bff has been diagnosed with HPV. This is a very scary thing and leads to cervical cancer.

I suggest you get the shot. It will most likely be just fine for you in the end.

If you can protect yourself from disease, why not? I would recommend it to everyone. Especially since this type of cancer is a common lady killer
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Protect yourself and your future kids, I say.

If you ladies have questions about this, please PM me. I can provide a lot of info regarding this.
 

xStefanie711

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I have had 2 of the 3 shots so far. It didn't hurt at all. The 1st shot: I went by myself and they made me wait 15 minutes before I could leave in case I had any adverse reactions (I didn't)... Neither shot caused any reactions nor did it hurt. A little sore, but that’s pretty much a give in with any kind of shot. My doctor said I should get it and my insurance covered it, so I decided to do it.
 

Kuuipo

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I'm a women's health nurse in a hospital and i have given Guardasil injections and never had anyone faint. If it lessens the chance of cervical cancer, why not? It's just one teensy tiny shot.
Most of the people who get cervical cancer have had unprotected intercourse, and they are carriers or have had one to four different types of viruses.
We give this to to pre adolescent girls and they do not balk at it.

Cervical cancer is often found to late-it spreads to the bowel, the liver etc..... It's a nasty cancer.
 

captodometer

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I am a public health epidemiologist; I haven't heard anything about vaccine related deaths. There does seem to be a lot of vaccine paranoia in general, and Gardasil is particularly controversial because it's for an STD. Sex, religion, conservative politics, and medicine don't mix.

11,000 people is a fairly large clinical trial. I wouldn't be put off by the sample size.

70% of cervical cancers are caused by one of 2 different HPV strains. 70% odds of success are pretty good; 100% will never be reached with this vaccine or any other one.

Most women with HPV don't know that they have it; estimates are that up to 80% of the sexually active adult population has it. And not everybody gets regular Pap smears, if they've even had one at all. In the United States and most developing countries, this is a service that has to paid for and lots of people don't even come close to having the money. And in places like New Zealand, where the service is free, lots of women still don't get it. A lot of people just don't like the idea of having their privates poked and prodded in a medical office. Pap smears for everyone just isn't going to happen.

The statement that it's mostly women with underlying immune system issues that go on to have cervical cancer isn't really true. Chemotherapy patients are definitely immunocompromised, but most of them either recover, or die of sepsis or metastasis of the original tumor. Most AIDS patients die of sepsis, and kidney failure takes out a lot of lupus patients. Given the actual prevalence of HPV infection, and the large number of immunocompromised people (AIDS, cancer, autoimmune disease, old age, etc), the actual number of cervical cancer cases would be expected to be much higher than it actually is if having a competent immune system were the only issue involved. For example: the number of annual cervical cancer deaths in NZ is about equal to the the number of HIV patients, and the HIV patients are mostly men who don't have a cervix. And the skin cancer rate here is quite high: a lot of the female melanoma patients would be expected to develop cervical cancer and they just don't.

The majority of people with HPV never go on to develop cancer. And for those that do, it's probably more of a genetic issue: the person's immune system is generally good but just not against HPV. The genetics are still being worked out. And since the genetics haven't been completely sorted, it's difficult to say exactly who will get cancer and who won't. And even if it were completely an immunocompetence issue, the fact that your immune system is good right now doesn't mean that it will continue to be that way in the future. So better to take all possible measures to avoid getting HPV in the first place.

The argument that the vaccine might be proven harmful 20 years from now isn't a very good one. For all we know, those of use who have been eating large quantities of microwaved food since Nixon was president might go on to develop weird esophageal cancers. Or the heavy cell phone users might develop cancer of the auditory nerves. Both forms of energy are generally considered safe today, but not enough time has passed that we can say they are harmless. My generation is technically the large scale clinical trial: don't think I'm going to be ditching my microwave or my wireless internet connection any time soon
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I would get the vaccine if I were in the target age group, and recommend that you do the same. The odds are much higher that you will die in a traffic accident than from adverse side effects of Gardasil or any other vaccine.
 

itsJADEbiitch

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I'm a medical assistant. We give this vaccine often. I think the "fainting" comes from being nervous and holding your breath. I have yet to experience any bad side effects from my patients.I haven't heard of this AWFUL pain. When I administer I grab the upper arm (deltoid ) pretty firm while injecting. Therefore the insertion of the needle is less to no pain.. I warn them they should feel a warm/heavy feeling and can experience it for a while. Soreness will occur a few days, possibly redness and swelling and to ice it =) It's recommended ages 9-26. Give in 3 doses--Date of 1st injection, 2 months later and 6 months after the 1st. We hand out pamphlets to mothers considering Gardasil for their daughter. Alot of mothers to the young girls express their concerns in thinking it is "allowing" sex. I tell them to think of it as more a "protectant" for when their older.


IMO.. its worth it. But if unsure, continue your research for re-assurance.

"HPV Types 16 and 18 cause 70% of cervical cancer cases, and HPV Types 6 and 11 cause 90% of genital warts cases." Who wants this?? JIC


Information about GARDASIL Â [Human Papillomavirus Quadrivalent (Types 6, 11, 16 and 18) Vaccine, Recombinant]
 

Moppit

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YES get the shot. I was diagnosed with HPV strains 16 & 18 (the two most likely to lead to cervical cancer) and I wish the vaccine was available when I was younger. Regular pap tests were responsible for finding my abnormal cells so I had a DNA typing and that identified the strains I have. In Jan I had a LEEP procedure and hopefully my next pap test is normal.

This prompted me to send my daughter for the vaccine. She has had all her shots and there wasn't any unusual pain involved.
 

clslvr6spd

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Last year I also had strains 16 & 18 that were going to be cancerous cells, this all happened right before the shot came out. I had the LEEP procedure to get my cells burned, the numbing shot hurt the worse but the actual process was nerve racking.
I had to go in for 3 check ups after my procedure to make sure everything is ok. My gyno said there is a chance of Abnormal paps will probably happen again, but I am SOO damn grateful that cells were found b4 it turned to cancer.
I read somewhere that the cancerous strains take a while to develop and is rare for it develop within a year and that is what happened to me (correct me if I am wrong on that).
I would get it...
 

lovely333

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This was a huge debate at a nusing conference I went to last year. I think its great. It really is meant for people who have not yet had sexual intercourse. It also only protects against certain strains. I can understand people being uncertain because it is fairly new. You have to weigh the pros and cons for yourself. As far as giving it to young girls it is a great idea and I personally think 13 is the right age. Children are becoming sexually active at a young age and they don't always come and talk to us like they should.
 

duckduck

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I had been sexually active with only two partners (one a virgin, and one who had only 1 previous partner) when I had an abnormal pap about 5 years ago (I was 19) due to HPV. I ended up having a cone biopsy in which they remove part of your cervix, and the analysis came back as "moderate dysplasia" - e.g. pre-cancerous cells which eventually develop into cancer. My paps have been clean since, but it is a possibility (and somewhat likely) that this will happen again. If it had existed before all of this happened, I would have KILLED to have gotten that shot. I was a 19 year old girl starting my 2nd year of college having serious surgery to get a developing cancer removed from my body. The medical science is there - the controversy stems from politics and religion. I say f*** them, it is your body, and your personal safety - get the shot. Also, thank you Captodometer - the information you posted is dead-on with what I have found and highly realistic. I understand there is a lot of fear and concern with getting this vaccine, but trust me, I would take my "chances" with it any day over the daily possibility of pre-cancerous cells brewing in my cervix.
 

duckduck

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Oh yeah - and I had to tell all of my future partners that I have a dangerous strain of HPV. Kinda ruins the mood a lot.
 

x3n

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I'm not getting it.
80$ for it, no thank you.
And now the eighth graders get it for FREE.
Not far.
I'm not paying for it.
And I love how as soon as I saw this post, the commercial for it came on, rofl.
 
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