i have a pencil brush that i bought from CVS, i think it's called essence of beauty or something...i'm nowhere near my brushes so i can't tell you at the moment, but it was like ~$5 and it came with 2 of those brushes (one of them was slightly smaller) and then a "smudger" brush which just had a little rubber end on it. overall the brushes are nice - they're firm and fluffy (not flimsy) and are great for application. i'd use these over a MAC 219 any day, especially since they're 230967203960927360927 times cheaper!!!