What is ISLAM ??

Angelic Me!

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What is ISLAM ??

to all that don`t know what ISLAM
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Can we find an explanation of the great universe? Is there any convincing interpretation of the secret of existence? We realize that no family can function properly without a responsible head, that no city can prosperously exist without sound administration, and that no state can survive without a leader of some kind. We also realize that nothing comes into being on its own. Moreover, we observe that the universe exists and functions in the most orderly manner, and that it has survived for hundreds of thousand of years. Can we then say that all this is accidental and haphazard? Can we attribute the existence of man and the whole world to mere chance.

Man represents only a very small portion of the great universe. And if he can make plans and appreciate the merits of planning, then his own existence and the survival of the universe must also be a planned policy. This means that there is an extraordinary power to bring things into being and keep them moving in order.

In the world then must be a great force in action to keep everything in order. In the beautiful nature there must be a Great creator who creates the most charming pieces of art produces every thing for a special purpose in life. The deeply enlightened people recognize this creator and call him Allah "God". He is not a man because no man can create or make another man. He is not an animal, nor he is a plant. He is neither an Idol nor is He a statue of any kind because non of these things can make itself or create anything else. He is different from all these things because he is the maker and keeper of them all. The maker of anything must be different from and greater than things which he makes.


There are various ways to know God "ALLAH'' and there are many things to tell about him. The great wonders and impressive marvels of the world are like open books in which we can read about God. Besides, God Himself comes to our aid through the many Messengers and revelations He has sent down to man. These Messengers and revelations tell us everything we need to know about God.


The complete acceptance of the teachings and guidance of God 'Allah' as revealed to His Messengers Muhammad is the religion of Islam. Islam enjoins faith in the oneness and sovereignty of Allah, which makes man aware of meaningfulness of the Universe and of his place in it. This belief frees him from all fears and superstitions by making him conscious of the presence of the Almighty Allah and of man's obligations towards Him. This faith must be expressed and tested in actions, faith alone is not enough. Belief in one God requires that we look upon all humanity as one family under the universal Omnipotence of God the Creator and Nourisher of all. Islam rejects the idea of chosen people, making belief in God and good actions the only way to heaven. Thus, a direct relationship in established with God, without any intercessor.

Islam is not a new religion. It is, in essence, the same message and guidance which Allah revealed to all Prophets. Adam, Noah, Abraham, Ismael, David, Moses and Jesus (PBUT). But the message which was revealed to Prophet Mohammed (PBUT) is Islam in its comprehensive, complete and final form.

The Quran is the last revealed word of Allah and the basic source of Islamic teachings and laws. The Quran deals with the basis of creeds, morality, history of humanity, worship, knowledge, wisdom, God-man relationship, and human relationship in all aspects. Comprehensive teaching on which, can be built sound systems of social justice, economics, politics, legislation, jurisprudence, law and international relations, are important contents of the Quran. Hadith, the teachings, sayings and actions of Prophet Mohammed (PBUT), meticulously reported and collected by his devoted companions. Explained and elaborated the Quranic verses.

THE FUNDAMENTAL ARTICLES OF FAITH IN ISLAM

The true faithful Muslim believes in the following Principal articles of faith:-


He believes in One God 'Allah', Supreme and Eternal, Infinite and Mighty, Merciful and Compassionate, Creator and Provider.
He believes in all Messengers of God without any discrimination among them. Every known nation had a warner or Messenger from God. They were chosen by God to teach mankind and deliver His divine message. The Quran mentions the name of twenty five of them. Among them Mohammad stands as the last Messenger and the crowning glory of the foundation of Prophethood.


Muslin believes in all scriptures and revelations of God. They were the guiding light which the Messengers received to show their respected peoples the Right Path of God. In the Quran a special reference is made to the books of Abraham, Moses, David and Jesus. But long before the revelations has been lost or corrupted. The only authentic and complete book of God in existence in the Quran.

The true Muslim believes in the Angels of Allah. They are purely spiritual and splendid beings whose nature requires on food, drink or sleep. They spend their days and nights in the worship of God.

Muslim believes in the last Day of Judgement. This world will come to an end someday, and the dead will rise to stand for their final and fair trial. People with good records will be generously, rewarded and warmly welcomed to the Heaven of Allah, and those with bad records will be punished and cast into Hell.

Muslim believes in the timeless knowledge of God and His power to plan and execute His planes and nothing could happen in His Kingdom against His will. His knowledge and power are in action at all times and command over His creation. He is wise and merciful, and whatever He does must have a meaningful purpose. If this is established in our mind and hearts, we should accept with good faith all that He does, although we may fail to under stand it fully, or think it is bad.
THE FIVE PILLARS OF ISLAM


Faith without actions arid practice is a dead end, as far as Islam is concerned. Faith by nature is very sensitive and can be most effective. When it is not out of practice or out of use, it quickly loses its liveliness and motivation power.

There are five pillars of Islam:

The declaration of faith:
To bear witness that there is none worthy of worship except Allah, and that Mohammad (PBUH) is His Messenger to all human beings till the Day of Judgment. The Prophethood of Mohammad obliges the Muslims to follow, His exemplary life as a model.

Prayers:

Daily, prayers are offered five times a day as a duty towards Allah. They strengthen and enliven the belief in Allah and inspire man to a higher morality. They purify the heart and prevent temptation towards wrong - doings and evil.

Fasting the month of Ramadan.

The Muslims during the month of Ramadan not only abstain from food, drink and sexual intercourse from dawn to sunset but also sincerity and devotion. It develops a sound social conscience, patience, unselfishness and will - Power.

Zakkah:

The literal and simple meaning of Zakkah is purity. The technical meaning of this word designates the annual amount in kind or coin which a Muslim with means must distribute among the rightful beneficiaries. But the religious and spiritual significance of Zakkah is much deeper and more lively. So it has humanitarian and sociopolitical values.

Hajj (Pilgrimage to Makkah):

It is to be performed once in a lifetime, if one can afford it financially and physically. [/size][/left]

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also i want to say that .. I respect all religion ... It`s agood thing to learn about aothers right?

Just don`t get this wrong!!

God Bliss you all ( Allah Hafiz )

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MAC_Whore

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Originally Posted by Angelic Me!
.....also i want to say that .. I respect all religion ... It`s agood thing to learn about aothers right?

Just don`t get this wrong!!

God Bliss you all ( Allah Hafiz )

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You say that you respect all religion and that it's a good thing to learn about others. Well, you have made 2 posts on the topic of religion. One was blasting Christianity, the other praising Islam. That is not "learning about others". I personally don't care what faith you are, or anyone else. It is their choice. I really think you are just trying to push buttons. Quite frankly, I truly hope that nobody even responds to your post.
 

Hawkeye

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This is all she is doing.
I doubt that she would care to learn the Christian, Jewish, Wiccan, and even Taoist ways.
I am almost inclined to say that she is doing nothing more than prostelitizing her faith to try to convert us.
SHe obviously never reads entire threads (ex: I was her biggest defender at first but oh then I became "uncomfortable")
Quite frankly the truth of the matter is she's not trying to push buttons she's trying to show us the "error" of our ways for those who don't follow the great allah.
If I wanted to learn more about Islam (more than I already know as I am an avid reader, have read the Q'uaran, have spoken to many Muslim Clerics to get a clear understanding of the faith) then well that's what I would do again. Not put my trust in someone on a message board who claims one thing but does not do as she preaches.
 

MAC_Whore

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Originally Posted by youbeabitch
.....Quite frankly the truth of the matter is she's not trying to push buttons she's trying to show us the "error" of our ways for those who don't follow the great allah......

Agreed. That was on my mind, but I just wasn't sure how to phrase it. Thank you.
 

NtheSticks

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uh huh

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Originally Posted by quandolak
lol you lot say you are open to learning about other views. But when people post them you all start whinging and insulting. Ive not see and evindence that any of you actually have this open mind you claim to posses. Also chrisitanity teaches you not to mock other religions and whether you like the member or not you are all hell bent on accusing others of trying to show you the *errors* of your ways. Its like you are simply not prepared for anyone to dare say anything if its not about your religion.

She simply gave a example of an introduction to islam not and attack. If you post articles of christianity i dont see members of other faiths whinging that you are trying to show others the *errors* of their way. everyone else it appears is confident enough in their own belief not to feel that post about other religions are some cover for lecturing people about morals.

If you are all so *open minded* the why not prove it instead of having a hissy fit when given a chance to learn (not being converted of forced to read are you!) about other faiths. Why is learning about others seen as an attack on you. Its like your all determined to stay ignorant about the rest of the world incase you might have an *open mind*.


Could be the 'hissy fits' are brought on by being called narrow or closed minded, and that the first 'open minded' post was a lamblasting of Christianity.

and yes, my mind is closed on the fact that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God.

Any proof I would offer of my ability to carry on a discussion with an 'open mind' would hinge on what you are going to call open-minded-ness. If you want me to say 'you're right and I'm wrong' I wouldn't suggest you hold your breath for it.

so let me ask you this - - - what constitutes "proof" to your understanding? What is proof for you?
 

MAC_Whore

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Originally Posted by quandolak
lol you lot say you are open to learning about other views. But when people post them you all start whinging and insulting. Ive not see and evindence that any of you actually have this open mind you claim to posses. Also chrisitanity teaches you not to mock other religions and whether you like the member or not you are all hell bent on accusing others of trying to show you the *errors* of your ways. Its like you are simply not prepared for anyone to dare say anything if its not about your religion.

She simply gave a example of an introduction to islam not and attack. If you post articles of christianity i dont see members of other faiths whinging that you are trying to show others the *errors* of their way. everyone else it appears is confident enough in their own belief not to feel that post about other religions are some cover for lecturing people about morals.

If you are all so *open minded* the why not prove it instead of having a hissy fit when given a chance to learn (not being converted of forced to read are you!) about other faiths. Why is learning about others seen as an attack on you. Its like your all determined to stay ignorant about the rest of the world incase you might have an *open mind*.


First off, let's take a deep breath. I am not having a hissy fit and so let's all agree to be calm here and discuss this rationally. Hissy fit is a really inappropriate and immature term. And "LOL" isn't a really productive thing to say either.

No, she didn't disparage christianity in this post, but she did in a previous post. That is what I am refering to. I did not say anything insulting. I did not call her any names. I never said anything about "not liking the member" as you put it. I am not mocking either. I am simply stating the facts that the sum of her 2 posts demote christianity and promote islam. That's true, is it not? That really isn't being "open" in MY opinion. That's all.

When you say ...."you all start whinging and insulting", you are lumping me into other's reactions. If you have a problem with me, speak to me about MY actions.

I am not "hell bent" on accusing her of showing me the errors of my ways. The language you use is inflammatory and is unnecessarily dramatic. I am just saying that based on what the 2 post say, that is how is appears to ME.

I do have an open mind to religion. However, Angelic Me is presenting a view in her 2 posts that doubt christianity and praise islam. That is not being open. She is contradicting herself.

I know quite a bit about islam, as 2 of my good friends are muslim. There are many wise and beautiful lessons to be learned from islam and in several other religions. I am willling to learn about any religion. However, what I am questioning is the fact that Angelic Me is stating a disparaging view of christianity and then one praising islam, yet calling it learning. That is not a dialogue or productive.

You also question my confidence in my beliefs. Well, no one can qualify that. That is between me and God.

I don't know if you are muslim or not, but you seem to be taking this personally. It is not my intent to argue with or insult anyone about this. I am just stating my feelings. You are accusing me of attacking the religion of islam. I wish you could see that it has absolutely nothing to do with that. It has to do with Angelic Me's delivery and contradictions. It's not about the religion, its about the methodology. Thats all. It's too bad we couldn't have a nice rational conversation about this. I really don't care to continue this with you. I hope this answers your questions.
 

Angelic Me!

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Dear youbeabitch ..

When i say that you ( uncomfortable) That when you post the first reply in WHO IS JSUES, i didn't know that you was the biggest defender .( By the way i respect that )
SO I'm Sorry 4 that ..
Then I post this just 4 learning NOTHING ELS !!
Is not like I'm trying to push buttons or something NO way! …( please do Not put words in my mouth thank you)
Frankly when I post HOW IS JSEUS? I didn't say anything wrong!! If I did please Correct Me.!.And I have been studying and learning about other religions, like I say I have a lot of NON Muslims Friends SO I know what am doing! ..and I know that I don’t` have to bout anything WRONG>> cause I didn't .
ALL what I was trying to do is Learning about others More and more NOTHING ELS !! and i way hoping that you all will help me in this !!
SO if this bothers you .. I apologias ..
Also I didn't say that you MUST do this or you must Do that !! NO WAY ,,you are FREE of what you think or what you Believes ..

DEAR MAC-WHORE…
Why are you Mad?? Did I say anything wrong??
EVERY religion Have a faith that we hold on to it ..
SO .. if you don’t want to read this or Reply it ..please don’t !!
Is not like I say you Have to READ this or you have to Reply it?? NO WAY !! so please Be nice .. Thank you .


Dear Quandolak
Thank you very much !! Finally Someone understand ..
That what I was trying to say .. is not like you have to read it you are Free of what you read or believe,,

Everybody is Learning from everybody ..

I'll be back soon …
God bliss you all …….
 

Hawkeye

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This coming from the same person who is convinced that Deuteronomy and Joshua are in the New Testiment.

You can't even get a simple fact right Quandolock. What makes YOU think that because you are hell bent and determined that those two books are in the new testiment-that Chrisitanity is wrong Muslims are right and what makes you think you have any credibility anymore?

This is what baffles me. I don't care if you worship frogs but you have absolutely no credibility, you have not been able to stand up for your faith and give us evidence and speak to us in a calm manner regarding your faith all you can do is yell " It's because you are close minded" No, it is not because we are closed minded it's because you cannot carry on a discussion with valid facts. END OF STORY.

Grow up girl.

And I will even go so far as to say, that while YOU personally have no credibility at least the original poster who DOES like to stir up trouble does have some because she sites things. I'm not even sure you could tell us the fundamentals of your faith from YOUR perspective. I really will go so far as to question that you even know what you believe but just say you believe these things to belong in whatever group it is your in.

This is not just a problem for muslims and believe me, I have told this to many a Christian, many a Jew, and many a Wiccan and I will tell this to you. It's one thing to be open minded and get actual facts and know how to be strong in your faith and defend against attacks, not yell and scream and then get your facts wrong.

I have spoken to many people-Muslim Clerics, Jewish Rabbi's, Christian Preachers, Catholic Priests, High Priestess of Wiccan ideologies, Medicine men of many tribes, Buddhist Monks and they get their facts straight. They know WHAT they believe, WHY they believe and they can give me reasons.

Not this OH the media says or OH the TV says or OH mommy and daddy say or OH my friends say....

NO they can give me facts. They can show me documentation in their belief books (some have oral tradition), they can stand the heat. THEY have credibility where as you, my friend, simply put do not.

Again, I will repeat, I don't care if you worship frogs but Make sure you can defend why you do. But I can almost guarentee you won't because it requires work, thinking for yourself, and asking questions of people in the respected religion you are looking into. That seems to be something you simply don't like to do.
 

Hawkeye

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Angelic Me-
Quite Frankly, if you will continue to read my posts prior to WHO is jesus then you will see that I was one of the first to give consideration to your posts.
I will tell you point blank if I am uncomfortable and quite frankly I am not. I'm actually enjoying a lot of this.
I am not putting any words in your mouth. I even said you actually have credibility. You have personally done nothing wrong, we're more concerned with your little friends who can't seem to get facts straight about what they believe and to defend themselves.
I also find it interesting how the first few posts you have put have seemed to be prosteletizing. If a Christian put something similar to that up here they would be going through the exact same thing.
And for the record-

I'm not quite sure "how is Jesus" but if you see him ask him for me.
 

Angelic Me!

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Dear mac-whore ;

Please don’t get me wrong when I put the first post Ididn`t put it to disrespect you !! NO WAY !! but if you get the messege that i was disrespect you or all if you ... Im SORRY i didnt mean to !! SO I apologias
 

NtheSticks

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Originally Posted by quandolak
. . . as i have with those who belive in the father son holy spirit and those who are also chrisitian who say it does not exist. Of course we will never all agree on one view about how we are here , the universe and which god or religion we belive in. but atlest try to agree to disagree.

I want to ask for clarification for what you are referring to in the above comment 'who say it does not exist' please. what 'it' are you referring to?
thanks
 

stacey

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Admin, can you get delete this thread? Everyone shouldn't be arguing or pointing fingers that so and so is trying to convert non-Muslims. I believe this is just a post to show everyone else what Islam is. Ok, I agree that the post before this spiraled out of control but I'm sure that wasn't her intention. Though, I do believe that some people posting in that thread could've handled themselves a lot more responsibally and maturely so we wouldn't have had all the name calling and accussing. At any rate... I'm sure this is going to be just another "Who Is Jesus" (saw) thread so can you save us the headache and close it?
 

NtheSticks

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Originally Posted by quandolak
Im referring to the trinity sorry i should have made it more clear ..i just read this page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity anyway my cousin does not belive in it....and somewhere on some distant topic i mentioned that i belived in it when i was younger and when i heard her say that it was not true i was shocked cos i had never even realised some christians dont belive that there is such a thing...

That was why I was asking for clarification, thank you for providing it.

Trinity - Father, Son, Holy Spirit. I would have to ask how someone could call themself a Christian and not believe in the Trinity? Seems a tad odd to me, to say the least.

anyway, I'm hoping deleteing the thread doesn't happen, because - as long as name calling isn't goin on - I'm enjoying this discussion.
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