Swearing on the forum

[Miss_Behave]

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Originally Posted by leppy I really love (sarcasm) how this thread has become a pissing (not sorry) contest. I don't really care how educated you are, or how great your job is, or what your upbringing is. In fact the concept that any of those things validate a persons opinion or make them superior to others is extremely classist and offensive. .

I just want to make this clear: I only mentioned my job, because on the post before said this:

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Originally Posted by caffn8me You are very well educated from what I have read and you really shouldn't need to swear to articulate your thoughts in an effective and eloquent manner.

I wanted to make it clear that education and the ability to be eloquent got nothing to do if somebody swears or not. It's got nothing to do with being superior. Besides that: I totaly agree with your post.

 

[leppy]

Oh and, I never made it clear who I am or what my life is like because again, it has nothing to do with how valid my opinion is. I don't feel I need to prove to anyone that I have a right to my opinion or that what I say is worth listening to.

Just because one might think their opinion is superior because of education or status, doesn't mean its true. I use the word fuck when I feel it most appropriately communicates what I'm trying to express, not because I can't think of another way to say it. Linking it to education is just a sneaky way of trying to shame and insult people who choose not to do things the way you want them to be done.

 

[leppy]

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Originally Posted by Miss_Behave I just want to make this clear: I only mentioned my job, because on the post before said this: I wanted to make it clear that education and the ability to be eloquent got nothing to do if somebody swears or not. It's got nothing to do with being superior. Besides that: I totaly agree with your post.

I just think its sad that it came to the point where people felt they had to prove that their opinions are valid. I don't mean to attack everyone who did though.

 

[Miss_Behave]

sorry, but that's totaly not what I meant! all I wanted to say was pretty much the same then you did: it got nothing to do what background somebody has, swearing got nothing to do with education or whatever. I didn't posted it to state that my oppinion is more valid than others. if I didn't expressed that right I'm really sorry! because I totaly not meant it that way

 

[leppy]

Miss B, it wasn't directed at you at all, trust me. I didn't get that impression from your post.

 

[Miss_Behave]

thanks leppy, sometimes it's just hard to say what you mean if it isn't your own language

 

[caffn8me]

There's a huge difference between a "need" and a "want" - you might "want" to swear in posts but you never "need" to. You can always write something another way. I know I'm not the only person who finds swearing on forums inappropriate and to be honest downright ugly. The entrenched swearers on this forum might be interested to visit this website

 

[leppy]

I don't "need" to post at all. You don't "need" to come to this forum or any other that allows for free expression if it offends you. I'm not an entrenched swearer. I'm just going to say what I want to say in whatever way I choose to at the time. I really don't care to be censored by you or by anyone. What is appropriate on this forum is what the owner deems to be so.

 

[user4]

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Originally Posted by leppy You don't "need" to come to this forum or any other that allows for free expression if it offends you.

Oh so true!!! It's one thing to give an opinion and quite another to try to impose your beliefs on other people...

 

[caffn8me]

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Originally Posted by leppy What is appropriate on this forum is what the owner deems to be so.

Correct me if I am wrong but I don't believe the owner has yet posted anything on the subject of swearing in this thread.

 

[leppy]

The owners/admins need only have the rules as they are or change them in response. I'm sure if Janice & Chelsea had thought swearing a major offense that shouldn't be allowed, they well.. wouldn't allow it!

 

[lovemichelle]

I know I curse.. in my real life and even online when I type. I don't recall swearing much on here, but I have no problem with it. I was brought up around swearing and I do it on an everyday basis. I use the F word many times a day along with the others that are considered "bad". I heard a quote once say that there is no such thing as bad words, just bad people. I agree because I do curse, but I'm not a bad person nor am I stupid because I swear.

 

[caffn8me]

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Originally Posted by leppy The owners/admins need only have the rules as they are or change them in response. I'm sure if Janice & Chelsea had thought swearing a major offense that shouldn't be allowed, they well.. wouldn't allow it!

You might of course interpret rule 8 to include swearing as it certainly can cause offence;

8 ) No offensive material including: Porn, Racism, Criticism, Violence, etc.... Staff will not tolerate this.​

Please also note that using fake pictures and stealing pictures of other members is not actually forbidden under any of the Specktra rules but I hardly imagine that Janice and Chelsea endorse these activities.

 

[leppy]

*rolls eyes*

You could interpret it any way you like if you really tried hard. Hell I could interpret it as not allowing prudist behaviour as that offends me. Fact is my interpretation is meaningless, as is yours.

 

[moonrevel]

I'm sorry, but I would just like to say that some of the most brilliant literature has swear words in it, and we still read it in high school when we're minors, so I don't think that it has anything at all to do with being articulate, nor anything to do with being educated. Words have meaning only when we assign it to them, and I have to say that I do not find the use of swear words on here at all excessive. Of course, it's something that's up to the admins, but I've been on communities where language regulations are enforced strictly (like fark.com, which has a filter that automatically changes words they deem inappropriate to something more generic), and I've found that people who are excessively using swear words are often in violation of other forum rules which are more valid (personal attacks and threats, etc.). I really like specktra because there are so few regulations, and yet we all coexist peacefully and learn things from each other, and isn't that what this is all about, feeling free to be yourself and speak your mind, even if your mind wants to say some naughty words from time to time? They're just words, and this isn't church.

 

[Jennifer Mcfly]

I usually stay out of these types of posts, frankly b/c I think they are just stupid. I mean, no offense (as I truly LOVE specktra) but this is just a website. That's all. It's not your job, your lively hood. I don't understand why people get so angry about certain things. In my point of view it's like, who cares. I have better things to do then to get involved in some internet drama.
However, I will say, everyone is entitled to thier own opinions. The ones on here who keep going back and forth are stubborn in their beliefs and once they learn to accept the others position and not try to change it, they can move on.
I feel if there really was such a concern, then this topic should have been brought up to one of the Mods in private, that would have been truly the most eloquent way of handling this, instead of causing such a trivial arguement. And secondly, like everything in life, If you don't like something, don't surround yourself with it. I don't feel there is anything wrong with making a suggestion (in your case censoring profanity), however whatever is decided (to allow profanity or not) must be accepted, and if you're not comfortable with the decision you have the freedom to go somewhere you're entirely happy.

 

[Juneplum]

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Originally Posted by Jennifer Mcfly And secondly, like everything in life, If you don't like something, don't surround yourself with it. I don't feel there is anything wrong with making a suggestion (in your case censoring profanity), however whatever is decided (to allow profanity or not) must be accepted, and if you're not comfortable with the decision you have the freedom to go somewhere you're entirely happy.

oh jen, i love your response! if someone isn't happy here, then by all means, GO and leave us be in our happy specktra world.. sheesh.
* rolls eyes *

 

[Pei]

This is a lil anti-climax, but after reading all these intellectual comments posted above, I just wanna ask - What's the big deal about swearing?!

It's a truly controversial topic and it's subjected to one's moral values or beliefs.

Caffn8me,take it with a pinch of salt!

 

[caffn8me]

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Originally Posted by Pei Caffn8me,take it with a pinch of salt!

are you sure you don't mean f*****g salt?

 

[Jude]

I think that this thread has gone into the realm of ridiculousness because once people have made up their minds about something, they rarely change it.

I vote that we just let this thread die. All it is doing is rehashing the same points over and over.

Let's just be happy that Specktra now has it's own morality cop. Oh goody.