MAC and Gareth Pugh Discussion

Mac-Guy

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Lip product swatches:



Left to right:

- Vacant over Restrict
- Outrage over Restrict
- Restrict
- Nubile (for color comparison)
 

elegant-one

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A couple of pale shots ( thinking of Elude) from the new Vogue & Allure. And a hot new pair of shoes I just got
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liba

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That's good to know, though I usually don't replace pans with other products than initially intended. But who knows, the compact is certainly stunning enough to warrant a lifetime seat on my beauty product shelf.
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It's pretty funny because I came in there mainly interested in checking out Elude for the re-useability of the compact, since I'm not normally the biggest fan of beauty powders.
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My gut's telling me that if MAC does another pale white face powder, it won't be a re-promote of Elude.
 

Mac-Guy

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GP MU Bag is a great designer MU bag that is also highly functional. In the past, MU bags - even from high end brands - featured very little interior life, which made them unattractive for me as I like my stuff organized. The GP MU bag combines cutting edge design with a very functional interior, rendering this product into a very compelling goodie.

The exterior feature a glossy-lack material in the typical GP design while the trimmings are in a sturdy faux-leather that adds stability to the bag. While real leather would be too soft for the trimming - unless you use a very thick leather - the faux-leather helps the bag to stay in form, which is one of the criteria that I look at when I buy new bags: how will they perform in the long run when full or half-full, i.e. will they keep their shape. I've been using it now for three weeks, including traveling overseas, and the bag looks like new.

The interior is surprisingly functional for a MAC MU bag as one side features loops, four small ones and two larger ones, that allows me to store glosses and SH brushes. The other side has a net fixture with a zipper for larger items such as the compact, lashes, blush, etc.

Interestingly, despite the lack-exterior, the bag is not prone to finger prints. Hoorray!

Overall, I think the price is justified. $75 is not too high IMO and I would certainly have paid more to get this bag. When I compare it with the Mariza line, I'd rather have the GP one due to the functional elements of the bag. I'm thinking of getting a BU. We'll see...
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Mac-Guy

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It's pretty funny because I came in there mainly interested in checking out Elude for the re-useability of the compact, since I'm not normally the biggest fan of beauty powders.
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My gut's telling me that if MAC does another pale white face powder, it won't be a re-promote of Elude.

Agreed, that's why I am on an Elude BU mission.
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elegant-one

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Didn't past BPs like this come with a refill? Now how great would that have been.

I got so excited thinking that my Elude came when ups showed up with the same black box...but it was my Smashbox order from the F&F sale
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But, I have to share that I LOVE what I got from Smashbox - their Limitless Liquid liner in Dark Brown
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Perfect non-black shade for every day, lasts very well, and the nib is thin perfection for even the thinnest elegant cateye line.

Anyhow, I called MAC & my Elude & BU Restrict ls is on the way. I love overnight shipping.
 

rockin

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Back in the day, you could find super light, near white face powder from the high end brands - not all of them, but a decent variety. Nowadays, the trend's been so overloaded with bronzers, I think the mainstream mentality is pretty much opposed to something so lightening and whitening. The good news is fashion and beauty are cyclical, so a brand like MAC will do a powder like Elude, see how it goes and then perhaps offer something else along the same lines down the road when they can be sure they can get it featured on the runways and in magazine editorials, etc.
Keep your eyes peeled next fall/winter season - maybe we'll see another beauty powder or LE MSFN or other powder formula in off-white (which is basically what Elude is). There's got to be a backlash against bronze and also against the ultra-natural face look we've had for a couple years and which is sort of reaching an extreme level with Spring '12. I don't see a color like this getting added to anyone's permanent range for a few years going forward, if at all, though.

You'll find one, rockin - at your price point!
Fingers crossed!

I'm definitely not a fan of bronzers or fake (or even real) tans.

I currently try to lighten things a bit using Manic Panic's Virgin pressed white powder or their white Dreamtone foundation. Off-white would be preferable, though.
 

rockin

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Givenchy has great powders, I have the Prisme Libre in Pastel Light, and it does a great job in evening out the complexion, especially when it comes to redness. I'm a bit lighter than NW15 and always have problems with a lot of redness, especially on my cheeks. And this works amazing, and it is really light, I would only recommend this for NW/NC15 and lighter. There also is a pressed version. Of course Givenchy isn't cheap either, but in Euro prices, it's definitely cheaper than Elude.
Thanks, I'll have to try to check these out. UK prices are rather silly, too
 

Edelmc

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We tried it out on the store sample - it pops right open if you press into the little button inside that pin hole with a pin. A standard size powder pan fits in there. To get a Careblend pan in there would mean de-potting your Careblend, but other than that, no muss no fuss. 
 
 

I'm not Mac-Guy, but I hope you don't mind my personal take. The coverage is heavier than careblend, but just a bit under msfn. It's closer to msfn in finish, but again, it's a lighter texture and it fuses into the skin better. I find it noticeably less light reflective than careblend. I'd call it the closest you could get to not being reflective at all without reading as pure matte (if you put it on bare skin). If you're wearing foundation underneath, it won't compete with your foundation's finish, so if you have a dewey finish foundation, it won't totally override it, but it won't make a matte foundation look too matte and dull (I <3 it over Matchmaster). Elude's finish is what used to be called bisque, in my grandma's day. It's not 100% matte, but it's more matte than satin - it's porcelain tea cup/ china doll finish. 
 
I applied it with a 188 and felt like it was a little hard to control that way and needed a spritz of Fix+ to smooth it down. At home, I went for the 131 and liked that very much (that's what I have in my photo). I do think that I'll go hog wild and try it with my 138 over foundation for a really dramatic, nighttime look at some point. It's buildable, so you can certainly use a combo of brushes and control the coverage in different parts of the face as you say - pale anti-bronzer. What I personally love about Elude is that you DON'T have to fuss with that if you don't want to. I used to have be really fussy and particular with the white powder I'd use in the past, but the texture of Elude lets you get that look with just one good brush and a light hand, without needing to be extra careful so it doesn't get patchy or powdery. That is the absolute best feature of Elude to me - hassle free white!! Unheard of! 
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I still think everyone should check it out in person first before buying, though, since it seems like it may not look right even on all fair skin tones, considering what Ansimi's experience was. No point in spending $60 on it if you'll feel uncomfortable wearing it in public.
 
Liba- I always appreciate your personal take! I will be forever indebted to you for your description of clarity which made me purchase it! Would you use elude over a setting powder on the higher planes like mac guy or all over as the setting powder. As many different ways of using a product are always helpful!
 

Mac-Guy

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The 182 GP kabuki has very soft hair that is perfectly shaped in a tapered doom. While new MAC brushes usually shed a few hairs when they are new, this one has not lost a single hair (yet) despite daily use and cleansing with water and baby shampoo. The bristles are rather soft but firm enough allow a firm grip that does not bend completely when it touches the skin. It has the right amount of bounce to buff out an MSF or a b/p. If applying Elude directly with it, you need to be careful as it will pick up a lot of product. For that reason, I do not recommend applying Elude directly with the 182 GP, but using the 131 followed by the kabuki to buff it out. The bristles are more stiff than the 179, but they are not scratchy at all. The bristles seems to be a bit shorter than the regular 182, which is an added bonus as it justifies buying another kabuki.

The handle is stunning and due to the quadrangle socket, it's easier to hold than a round version. However, the material is more prone to fingerprints than the regular 182. Please note that the brush is produced in China, which is labeled on the side of the handle.

In terms of pricing, I find the kabuki the most affordable product of this collection. Yes, it still costs $60 bucks, but when you compare the regular 182 at a price of $50, the added 10 bucks seem to be a piece of cake featuring the smallest mark-up of all the GP products.
 

Edelmc

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GP MU Bag is a great designer MU bag that is also highly functional. In the past, MU bags - even from high end brands - featured very little interior life, which made them unattractive for me as I like my stuff organized. The GP MU bag combines cutting edge design with a very functional interior, rendering this product into a very compelling goodie.

The exterior feature a glossy-lack material in the typical GP design while the trimmings are in a sturdy faux-leather that adds stability to the bag. While real leather would be too soft for the trimming - unless you use a very thick leather - the faux-leather helps the bag to stay in form, which is one of the criteria that I look at when I buy new bags: how will they perform in the long run when full or half-full, i.e. will they keep their shape. I've been using it now for three weeks, including traveling overseas, and the bag looks like new.

The interior is surprisingly functional for a MAC MU bag as one side features loops, four small ones and two larger ones, that allows me to store glosses and SH brushes. The other side has a net fixture with a zipper for larger items such as the compact, lashes, blush, etc.

Interestingly, despite the lack-exterior, the bag is not prone to finger prints. Hoorray!

Overall, I think the price is justified. $75 is not too high IMO and I would certainly have paid more to get this bag. When I compare it with the Mariza line, I'd rather have the GP one due to the functional elements of the bag. I'm thinking of getting a BU. We'll see...
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My goodness...now you have me wanting the bag too! Ps in relation to the whole bronzer alternative for pale skin that I mentioned earlier, in Ireland we call this skin finishing!
 

Mac-Guy

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The (sold out!) Flight lashes are simply spectacular for a dramatic, cutting edge look for a night out. You will see slight variances among the different lashes as these are hand-cut. The edges are slightly uneven (due to the handcut), which gives the impression of a more "natural" look - well, as natural these lashes can look, LOL! As each lash looks ever so slightly different, they do not look cheap but the hand-cut aspect elevates the lashes to another level that feels truly couture. Now, they are certainly not the most easy lashes to apply nor is the look something that you can wear in the office *what the heck, why not*
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The shape of the lashes will complement the GP look bringing it to the most dramatic level of this collection. I haven't seen any bloggers wearing them, but I have been rather absent from the forum in the past few weeks, so maybe I just missed it.

In any case, if you can get hold of a pair, get it! 18 bucks is a piece of cake for those babies and one day, there will be an occasion where you can rock & fly.
 

liba

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Would you use elude over a setting powder on the higher planes like mac guy or all over as the setting powder. As many different ways of using a product are always helpful!
Thanks Edelmc! I personally like face products with the least amount of work. I don't like powder products that need to be buffed into the skin, since I have dry skin and I have an aversion to grinding mineral particles deep into my pores. I also don't like to use set or blot powder - mostly because I hate extra steps....rather would use products that have staying power without needing to be set, etc. I also don't like anything with a powdery finish, if I can avoid it.

My ideal is to be able to let my moisturizer sink in, then apply a light layer of whatever I'm putting on my face and have it just go right on evenly without going back over anything and not getting powdery buildup or unevenness if I need to dab a little more on over the reddest areas. I'm more inclined to set my makeup with a spray of Fix+ than ever use setting powder, even though that doesn't help it last through the day the way powder would.

This is why I love Elude. It gives plenty of coverage, doesn't feel heavy at all on my skin, and lasts all day without changing texture or color. I've used it right over bare skin, and it looks great - almost like I'm not wearing anything, even though the color is actually not truly natural. The last time my skin was naturally this color was when I was 17, lol. I've also put it on over Matchmaster 1.0 and that was extremely formal and glamorous. In both cases, I've used it all over. If you wanted to just use it in conjunction with another powder, I'd watch out since it's so neutral toned. It'd be something to try over foundation. One thing I don't think would be good with Elude, unless you want a theatrical look, is wearing any blush with it - it'd be defeating the purpose. I could see Strada being ok for a contour, since it's so light, but I'm in the less is more camp with this product. It could go from gorgeous to painted 18th century slut pretty fast (not that there's anything wrong with being a painted 18th c. lady of the evening every now and then!)

Take another look at my photos - I literally took 2 minutes or less to swipe on the Elude with a 131 and didn't go back in to buff, except a touch on my forehead and chin. It just sinks right into your skin from the skin's heat. It looks like a lot of flash, but it's the exact same amount of flash as the first photo and the light in the room hadn't changed, since I worked fast - so that's how much of a transformation you can get without anything fancy. Pretty cool stuff!
 
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