MAC x Carine Roitfeld (Fall 2012)

[liba]

Sometimes, the most subtle hint of color is all you need to totally transform your lips, like with my beloved Rising Sun csg. With that one, it just slightly enhances my lip color, but it also reflects light in such a way, it makes my lips look so full and juicy. I put it on and my whole face is transformed. A true clear gloss wouldn't have managed that.

For my red lips, I bet this one will neutralize really well and provide a good texture. I can see a noticeable difference in T's before and after swatches, but she may not have the right coloring to get the most out of this one. Perhaps it's a lipstick designed more for us older folks, too, and does its magic on older faces more than younger ones?

Obviously, something that needs to be checked out in person, imo. My main thing is to see if I need it, since Cusp of Dawn does a lot of these things for me already.

 

[Dreaming Dancer]

b/c of everything you said, I very rarely pay attn to a bloggers "review". I love blogs swatches, looks and etc... but not the grades. I always have to "see" for myself. and take time to learn what the product is "supposed" to do.

I'm like you, too. I mainly look at blogs for swatches so i can see what i want if i am hesitant on something. I usually know right away what i will love, though. I also take into consideration how the product is meant to perform and its purpose. The swatches today of the palettes just made me more excited to get them in the mail.

 

[CartoonChic]

Sometimes, the most subtle hint of color is all you need to totally transform your lips, like with my beloved Rising Sun csg. With that one, it just slightly enhances my lip color, but it also reflects light in such a way, it makes my lips look so full and juicy. I put it on and my whole face is transformed. A true clear gloss wouldn't have managed that.

For my red lips, I bet this one will neutralize really well and provide a good texture. I can see a noticeable difference in T's before and after swatches, but she may not have the right coloring to get the most out of this one. Perhaps it's a lipstick designed more for us older folks, too, and does its magic on older faces more than younger ones?

Obviously, something that needs to be checked out in person, imo. My main thing is to see if I need it, since Cusp of Dawn does a lot of these things for me already.

I love Cusp of Dawn and have a BU of it. That shade really surprised me. I was expecting it to completely not work with my skin tone, but it wears beautifully. I'm glad I decided to swatch it instead of dismissing it entirely. I only tried it on in a "why not, go ahead, it's sitting right there in your face with the other colors" moment. But I will still follow my rule from Ruffian Naked and not buy nude/beige/pale colors without seeing them in person first. It's just too risky for me.

I'm passing on everything from this collection because it doesn't suit my taste. I'm content with Cusp of Dawn and I personally don't care to have my eye shadow in a bunch of compacts. That's the same reason I don't purchase NARS eye shadow even though I would love to.

 

[Prettypackages]

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I was thinking of the Desert one - the taupe is gorgeous

yes it is, but i feel like I can dupe it. I also like the jungle one, but those gold and bronze, I know i can dupe it. But I am so hooked on the portablility of the packagin. Hopefully it will be at a CCO soon.

 

[CartoonChic]

CARINE is the code for free standard shipping. It expires Sunday, Sept. 2 at 11:59pm EST.

 

[Richelle83]

So Tropical Mist is a glaze finish for one, two for $16.50 seems a bit silly to have a nude lipstick that is basically transparent-especially on me. Third, that video scared me!

 

[Mac-Guy]

MAC shows a swatch of the product as being a nude color, not clear. It also describes the *finish* as glazed. Nowhere does it describe this as a clear color.



This comment is not only rude but just silly. Do you know anything about my, or any other blogger's, sense of fashion? This is simply a criticism of someone you know nothing about because they don't hold the same opinion you do. And you applying it to all bloggers that disagree with you does not fail to make it rude. You don't need to be the editor of Vogue to have the opinion that a clear lip product may not be worth $16.50...

Bloggers' opinions, photos, and reviews do not hurt you, and certainly should not personally offend you. So why do you feel the need to personally judge and comment about bloggers? Especially on a repeated basis and on multiple forums? You can share your thoughts and a valid opinion without making Specktra a place where you bash bloggers or other makeup lovers.

Being in the public eye is not always easy and I applaud every blogger how continues to blog on a regular basis and over an extended period of time. However, if you fear of being criticized publicly, you probably shouldn't be in the blogging business. If you are a public figure, and I refer to "Allura the blog" and not "Allura-the-person whoever might be behind the blog" (as I don't know you), then you should be able to live with criticism. This is a well-intended advice not to take it personal, as it is not meant to be personal. If someone doubts your review, just live with it. You wrote it, so stand behind it. IMO, this was simply an ill-informed review of a product. If you do a bit of research on Carine, you might find out that she dislikes bold lips.

There is no point to discuss this further. I just want to make clear that I certainly do not bash bloggers or make up lovers, but simply state my opinion when seeing a review that is literally "off the mark." In the same manner, I would criticize an article in a fashion magazine - Vogue or a non-name blog - when it is not well researched.

Now let's move on.


PS: I'm not sure what you mean by "multiple forums." Maybe you want to shed light on this and shoot me a PM? I'm only a Specktra member and I don't post anywhere else.

 

[Mac-Guy]

I love Cusp of Dawn and have a BU of it. That shade really surprised me. I was expecting it to completely not work with my skin tone, but it wears beautifully. I'm glad I decided to swatch it instead of dismissing it entirely. I only tried it on in a "why not, go ahead, it's sitting right there in your face with the other colors" moment. But I will still follow my rule from Ruffian Naked and not buy nude/beige/pale colors without seeing them in person first. It's just too risky for me.
I'm passing on everything from this collection because it doesn't suit my taste. I'm content with Cusp of Dawn and I personally don't care to have my eye shadow in a bunch of compacts. That's the same reason I don't purchase NARS eye shadow even though I would love to.

@ CartoonChic: Ha! CoD, Flamingo, and TM are the three lippies that I really BU'ed massively this year.

@ Liba: I think you are right. It's that tiny amount of pigment that makes or breaks a lippie. If I might say so, TM looks hot on me, teh-he! It's that subtle beige with a hint of shimmer and some semi-gloss finish that instantly rendered it into my new MLBB. And the name is perfect: I feel like in a movie with Bo Derek.

 

[Naynadine]

The taupe in the Desert kit reminds me of Performance Art e/s, like a dark version of it.

 

[liba]

I love Cusp of Dawn and have a BU of it. That shade really surprised me. I was expecting it to completely not work with my skin tone, but it wears beautifully. I'm glad I decided to swatch it instead of dismissing it entirely. I only tried it on in a "why not, go ahead, it's sitting right there in your face with the other colors" moment. But I will still follow my rule from Ruffian Naked and not buy nude/beige/pale colors without seeing them in person first. It's just too risky for me.
I'm passing on everything from this collection because it doesn't suit my taste. I'm content with Cusp of Dawn and I personally don't care to have my eye shadow in a bunch of compacts. That's the same reason I don't purchase NARS eye shadow even though I would love to.

Nudes are SO SO SO personal - when they don't work, it's ground zero in Yuck City. 'Same with reds - so unforgiving. Heck, I skipped Ruffian because I didn't want to pay for a nude or a red I couldn't try in person first. Every darn shade in Naturally was blech on me and none of the new cremesheen lipsticks did anything for me either, but that freaky looking Salute! looks fantastic. Go figure.

CoD is what I'd call a really futuristic lipstick, because its all about the texture, while the color is way in the background. We're going to keep seeing more things like this, due to the general trend of going back to a "no makeup" makeup look.

I honestly have mixed feelings about this trend, since I feel like it comes from the runway designers who are dealing with beautiful young girls who don't need any darn makeup anyways. In some ways, it's just as unrealistic a trend as crazy colorful eyes/lips/cheeks overload, but mostly because it's a very fine line between understated/barely there and just saying "why bother?" and walking out the door with nothing on. I definitely love deconstructed makeup and go out with looks where I skip eye makeup/foundation/blush/or obvious lip color for an effect, but I feel lucky that I can get away with that sort of thing. For a different type of makeup philosophy, it's sort of forcing women to accept a style that's against their principles of wanting colorful fun or needing coverage to camouflage perceived imperfections. Sure, if the person can accept it, it can be very liberating, but in the long run, it's just as arbitrary a choice as whether you like bronzer or smokey eyes or not - it's still a look that's being decreed from the fashion world, not the 10 Commandments of Makeup Moses.

 

[valkolak]

Woah! With the college semester starting I totally lost track of this launch. I'm not too worried though because I always prefer Allura's swatches and from the looks of it I don't need anything. If I get anything it'll be the desert kit (yep b/c of the taupe

). I doubt I will though. I'd rather pick out some Inglot shades. There's a greenish brown taupe from Inglot that I've been secretly googling for some time now. It's getting pretty serious.

 

[liba]

@ CartoonChic: Ha! CoD, Flamingo, and TM are the three lippies that I really BU'ed massively this year.

@ Liba: I think you are right. It's that tiny amount of pigment that makes or breaks a lippie. If I might say so, TM looks hot on me, teh-he! It's that subtle beige with a hint of shimmer and some semi-gloss finish that instantly rendered it into my new MLBB. And the name is perfect: I feel like in a movie with Bo Derek.

Hahaha, the name keeps reminding me of Tropic Thunder:


If TM makes you feel hot, flaunt it - just remember, NEVER GO FULL FABULOUS!

 

[Mac-Guy]

Nudes are SO SO SO personal - when they don't work, it's ground zero in Yuck City. 'Same with reds - so unforgiving. Heck, I skipped Ruffian because I didn't want to pay for a nude or a red I couldn't try in person first. Every darn shade in Naturally was blech on me and none of the new cremesheen lipsticks did anything for me either, but that freaky looking Salute! looks fantastic. Go figure.

CoD is what I'd call a really futuristic lipstick, because its all about the texture, while the color is way in the background. We're going to keep seeing more things like this, due to the general trend of going back to a "no makeup" makeup look.

I honestly have mixed feelings about this trend, since I feel like it comes from the runway designers who are dealing with beautiful young girls who don't need any darn makeup anyways. In some ways, it's just as unrealistic a trend as crazy colorful eyes/lips/cheeks overload, but mostly because it's a very fine line between understated/barely there and just saying "why bother?" and walking out the door with nothing on. I definitely love deconstructed makeup and go out with looks where I skip eye makeup/foundation/blush/or obvious lip color for an effect, but I feel lucky that I can get away with that sort of thing. For a different type of makeup philosophy, it's sort of forcing women to accept a style that's against their principles of wanting colorful fun or needing coverage to camouflage perceived imperfections. Sure, if the person can accept it, it can be very liberating, but in the long run, it's just as arbitrary a choice as whether you like bronzer or smokey eyes or not - it's still a look that's being decreed from the fashion world, not the 10 Commandments of Makeup Moses.

Fashion is so dynamic except for a few styles that probably will never go away completely. This season (and certainly the upcoming ones), it's all about the flawless skin and MAC has contributed their fair share to the products on the market to get as closely to this look. All those primers, smoothers, moisturizers, and serums reflect this focus on dewy, youthful skin. I don't event think that age matters - well, at least only to a certain degree - but how well one takes care of the skin and how it appears. I simply love this trend, as clean, dewy skin is absolutely beautiful while I really dislike dry and flakey skin. Anyway, this dewy trend is well reflected in all the new textures that we have seen across a range of products: all those newly formulated lustre lippies, the wet-shine MSF's, the Big Bounce e/s and now the Pressed Pigments are at the forefront of the fashion world. I just adore it and I will ride the dewy wave as long as I can.

 

[liba]

Fashion is so dynamic except for a few styles that probably will never go away completely. This season (and certainly the upcoming ones), it's all about the flawless skin and MAC has contributed their fair share to the products on the market to get as closely to this look. All those primers, smoothers, moisturizers, and serums reflect this focus on dewy, youthful skin. I don't event think that age matters - well, at least only to a certain degree - but how well one takes care of the skin and how it appears. I simply love this trend, as clean, dewy skin is absolutely beautiful while I really dislike dry and flakey skin. Anyway, this dewy trend is well reflected in all the new textures that we have seen across a range of products: all those newly formulated lustre lippies, the wet-shine MSF's, the Big Bounce e/s and now the Pressed Pigments are at the forefront of the fashion world. I just adore it and I will ride the dewy wave as long as I can.

I'm in your camp on this one, but I'm fortunate in the great skin department, so getting into that look is easy for me. I think it's a trend that's a hard sell for some girls and women, who have been made very self-conscious about skin issues to the point of creating stress and struggle and shame. I've got quite a few friends who are beautiful, but are either terrified to use makeup because they have ups and downs with their skin or feel ugly if they don't cover up in lots of makeup, the less natural, the better.

I've helped a few of them drastically improve their skin health, but you know how it goes - old habits die hard, even once the original issue is gone. It takes a long time to feel re-empowered and try something new. You can lead a horse to water, etc. Hey, look how poorly Big Bounce was received. It just broke too many "rules". It's just that I can't help getting a little political about the all-natural trend, because I see how close it hits to that common modern female insecurity propaganda about not being perfect "enough". Beautiful, young skin should be an inspiration, but it can sadly turn into a stressful, unattainable ideal for a person burdened with insecurity about their looks.

Best thing is to keep setting a positive example - getting the message out there is half the battle.

I will say that I'm old enough to remember a few cycles where the totally natural no-makeup look was the main style, and the only beef I had about it then was it just got BORING! Why do you think us punk gals wore drastic makeup, hehe. It was all about scandalizing the drab style we felt buried in. I go out to concerts now and see all these gals who have no makeup and boring clothes, like we're back in 1975 again, and I want to shake them and say "where's the fantasy? where's the creativity??" 'Good thing there's a counter-trend with the bright lips and strong blush nowadays. We sure have more options than before!

 

[Allura Beauty]

Being in the public eye is not always easy and I applaud every blogger how continues to blog on a regular basis and over an extended period of time. However, if you fear of being criticized publicly, you probably shouldn't be in the blogging business. If you are a public figure, and I refer to "Allura the blog" and not "Allura-the-person whoever might be behind the blog" (as I don't know you), then you should be able to live with criticism. This is a well-intended advice not to take it personal, as it is not meant to be personal. If someone doubts your review, just live with it. You wrote it, so stand behind it. IMO, this was simply an ill-informed review of a product. If you do a bit of research on Carine, you might find out that she dislikes bold lips.

There is no point to discuss this further. I just want to make clear that I certainly do not bash bloggers or make up lovers, but simply state my opinion when seeing a review that is literally "off the mark." In the same manner, I would criticize an article in a fashion magazine - Vogue or a non-name blog - when it is not well researched.

Your comments are not only disingenuous but also self-contradictory. You are saying that bloggers should handle being criticized publicly as "public figures," but in the same sentence state that you are not criticizing the blogger, just the blog... How can a blog "lack any sense of fashion or style"? This comment cannot reasonably twisted as "well-intended advice." It can only apply to a person. And it is rude.

I'm simply asking you to be more respectful, or dare I say, nicer when you share your "criticism." I don't feel this is a tall order. And the only reason I take the time to address it here (we all know that "criticism" and rudeness are abound on the internet) is because I see Specktra as a place where people can interact in a positive instead of negative way.

But perhaps that sentiment is just as "off the mark" as the review is. *shrug*

 

[Icecaramellatte]

Boy I didn't realize this collection would be up so soon! When will this collection hit stores? I'm on the fence about this collection. I was considering the Chanel fall palette and these colors look similar. But I do like the cremeblend colors.

 

[Corally]

The eyeshadows in the Desert Camouflage kit looks great but I really would've liked a dark brown or something instead of Carbon and I really don't care for the cream blush.. So I'm not sure if I should get it. I'm going to skip the rest though. I almost want to buy the lipstick for the packaging lol.

 

[mtrimier]

So much depends on the shape of your eyes to make or break a lash curler. I prefer MAC's half lash curler as it allows me more precision.

Word. i like the half curler for the outer corner lashes on myself. they like to mingle with my lower lashes and cause mayhem and discord, lol!

The Shu is okay, I bought into the hype. I find it doesn't pinch my lashes as much as one I got from Revlon or ELF since it's more curved and matches my eye shape than flatter ones (if that makes sense? it's like ) shaped instead of | shaped.)

 

[Mac-Guy]

Boy I didn't realize this collection would be up so soon! When will this collection hit stores? I'm on the fence about this collection. I was considering the Chanel fall palette and these colors look similar. But I do like the cremeblend colors.

Not until next Thursday.

 

[liba]

Word. i like the half curler for the outer corner lashes on myself. they like to mingle with my lower lashes and cause mayhem and discord, lol!

The Shu is okay, I bought into the hype. I find it doesn't pinch my lashes as much as one I got from Revlon or ELF since it's more curved and matches my eye shape than flatter ones (if that makes sense? it's like ) shaped instead of | shaped.)

I've got very almond shaped eyes, with lashes that are sort of medium long, but have pale tips. They stick out pretty straight, but they did hold a curl well with the MAC lash curler and even with mascaras where the brush is good for lifting the lashes upwards. I'd rather pay more and get one that will last a long time, as far as my price range. I still see them as creepy medieval torture devices, so the less actual squeezing, pressing and time clamped to my face, the better!