Speaking of fluid lines, anyone try those new Loreal infallible Lacquer Liners? Saw them in the store today and was curious about them. The colors were just pretty basic. The navy looked nice. Wondering how the bronze loreal color comprares to Rich Ground. It did seem to be quite a bit less red than RG though. Wish I could see better through all that packaging or open one and mess around with it! Also the brush that comes with these doesn't look as user friendly as a MAC liner brush, but geeze for ten bucks and a good bogo sale at Ulta, might have to try them out!