Are Estee Lauders colours equivalent to MACs?

[ThePowderPuff]

I am NC20 (sometimes 15, sometimes 25), and I consider myself warm skinned with a golde undertone.

I am now looking at Estee Lauders foundations (Double-Wear). Which colour do you think wuold match?

EL also have the N, C and W similar to MAC, and say that N is neutral, C is cold and W is warm. The website says, that W is for golden skin. But are they off the same way MAC are, so I should look at the C's when I have golden skin?

Or should I go with the W as the website says?

I have tried the 1N1 Ecru and the 1C1 shell, but they seemed to cold for me.

 

[ThePowderPuff]

And what is the system with the numbers both before and after?

 

[LC]

E.L. does it pretty differently. And to be perfectly honest, their foundations are about $35 and the quality is NOT as good, and MACs are only $26.

but if you must buy one...here's how E.L.'s foundations work:

Their C's and W's are actually opposite of how MAC does theirs. Most cosmetics do it wrong. Most companies believe that Cool or C colors mean pink undertone, and that Warm or W colors mean yellowy undertones. Looking at the color wheel, they're wrong, so it's really confusing when you're switching from MAC to a different brand.

If you're an NC20 with MAC, then you're going to be *about* a 2N1, a 2N2 or a 2W1. do NOT go with a C.

The number before the letter references the level. E.L. uses 6 levels, 1 for the fairest, 6 for the darkest. The number after it just means that there's more than one shade within the level.

You're best bet is to go get matched up at a counter, but you should just stick with MAC because E.L. products are too pricey and suck.

Hope this helps!

LC

 

[mizuki~]

Not sure about the equivalents but you'd be a Warm if you're an NC (yellow tones).

I know its damn confusing with this warm/cool thing and I've read this on wikipedia which is quite helpful:

"Many companies classify their shades as Warm, Neutral, or Cool. Adding to the confusion is the different color wheels used between the art and beauty industry. The traditional artist's palette places the line dividing Cool and Warm across Primary Blue, whereas the cosmetic palette places the line across Primary Red. Thus, on the artists’ color wheel, Yellow is always Cool, Red is always Warm, and Blue can be Neutral (Tan), Warm (Red), or Cool (Blue). In contrast, the cosmetic palette classifies Yellow as always Warm, Blue as always Cool, and Red as either Neutral (Tan), Warm (Orange) or Cool (Blue). The cosmetic palette is never used outside of make-up, and is very common in the industry — though a handful of professional lines, such as Maybelline, Covergirl, and even M.A.C. all use the conventional artist's palette. Thus, a Warm Beige foundation may either have a yellow tint or a pink tint, depending on the palette the company's creative director uses. Note that the artist's palette is designed to be used on canvas (which is white) compared to the make-up palette — which is used on flesh (an ivory to brown tone)."

 

[ThePowderPuff]

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Originally Posted by baci E.L. does it pretty differently. And to be perfectly honest, their foundations are about $35 and the quality is NOT as good, and MACs are only $26. but if you must buy one...here's how E.L.'s foundations work: Their C's and W's are actually opposite of how MAC does theirs. Most cosmetics do it wrong. Most companies believe that Cool or C colors mean pink undertone, and that Warm or W colors mean yellowy undertones. Looking at the color wheel, they're wrong, so it's really confusing when you're switching from MAC to a different brand. If you're an NC20 with MAC, then you're going to be *about* a 2N1, a 2N2 or a 2W1. do NOT go with a C. The number before the letter references the level. E.L. uses 6 levels, 1 for the fairest, 6 for the darkest. The number after it just means that there's more than one shade within the level. You're best bet is to go get matched up at a counter, but you should just stick with MAC because E.L. products are too pricey and suck. Hope this helps! LC

Thank you so much. That was exactly what I was looking for.

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Originally Posted by mizuki~ Not sure about the equivalents but you'd be a Warm if you're an NC (yellow tones). I know its damn confusing with this warm/cool thing and I've read this on wikipedia which is quite helpful: "Many companies classify their shades as Warm, Neutral, or Cool. Adding to the confusion is the different color wheels used between the art and beauty industry. The traditional artist's palette places the line dividing Cool and Warm across Primary Blue, whereas the cosmetic palette places the line across Primary Red. Thus, on the artists’ color wheel, Yellow is always Cool, Red is always Warm, and Blue can be Neutral (Tan), Warm (Red), or Cool (Blue). In contrast, the cosmetic palette classifies Yellow as always Warm, Blue as always Cool, and Red as either Neutral (Tan), Warm (Orange) or Cool (Blue). The cosmetic palette is never used outside of make-up, and is very common in the industry — though a handful of professional lines, such as Maybelline, Covergirl, and even M.A.C. all use the conventional artist's palette. Thus, a Warm Beige foundation may either have a yellow tint or a pink tint, depending on the palette the company's creative director uses. Note that the artist's palette is designed to be used on canvas (which is white) compared to the make-up palette — which is used on flesh (an ivory to brown tone)."

Wow, I didn't realize that was the reason. Very interesting!