I hope this is the right board for this little rant. Is it just me, or do most magazines for "ethnic" women confuse olive complexions with golden or tanned? I know most people use the word "olive" to refer to any yellowish medium skintone, and that's okay, but a true olive complexion is noticably sallow, has cool undertones, and sometimes purplish lips. Seems like many magazines, including ones geared toward minorities, try to be inclusive by including recommendations for olive skin, but most of their recommendations are better suited to golden skin tones or lighter women with tans. I wonder how many olive skinned women are wearing bright orange lipstick because they heard it would bring out their "tan" tones. I've even seen this problem many times in Latina magazine! Also, I know this seems silly, but can anyone who cares about this as much as I do please write a respectful message to the Latina magazine beauty editor on the proper use of the term "olive". Sometimes I seriously wonder if the magazine's latina editors are just figure heads. Their beauty editor is a beautiful, stylish women with a very typical olive skin tone, but the orange lipstick example I gave comes partly from them, among many other terrible recommendations. I really love their idea of always catogorizing beauty products by skintone, but it's strange that they would make some of these suggestions for a skintone that the vast majority of their readers (and editors) probably have.