The Problem with Playboy

Lapis

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Originally Posted by *Stargazer*
The problem with articles like this is the assumption that women in general are not intelligent enough to make up their own minds when presented with issues surrounding women. And the assumption that any positive or accepting viewpoints of something like Playboy make the viewholder ignorant or uneducated about women's issues.

Just because a woman chooses to use her body in a way that some feminists disagree with does not mean she is not liberated. Nor does it make them stupid or uneducated. It's called capitalizing on what you've got. If you don't agree with it morally, fine, but that only makes it wrong for YOU. If you think this kind of thing is degrading, fine, but again, it only makes it degrading for YOU.


Yup I think Holly (Hef's ex gf) is a good example of this, she now works with the company behind the camera

But I love OfficerJenny's explanation
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panther27

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Originally Posted by glam8babe
i absolutly love playboy... ive had merchendise since i was about 14-15 when it started being popular over here such as jewellry, stationary, bedroom stuff etc.
but theres even younger girls nowadays who are wearing tops with playboy on and handbags etc. even at the age of 9 :|
im not really too fussed on who should wear it and whatnot.. after all its only a logo and alot of people think it stands for porn.. which obviously playboy i dont think is porn i see it as just something sexual and full of beautiful women, yes they are naked but naked is natural isnt it? we all have naked bodies so i dont see why people get so angry over these magazines

If i had the oppurtunity to ever be in playboy i would NEVER turn it down. Most people who hate on the brand or the company dont even know what half of it is about.

I hate it whenever something playboy is mentioned on this forum, theres always some catty bitchiness starting, if you dont like playboy then dont f*cking talk about it!!!!

simple as that

oh and that house bunny movie was soooo good! i enjoyed it, what i dont understand is why 'playboy haters' still go and see the movie, but to be honest.. i think deep inside everybody loves a lil playboy.


Oooh,I am dying to see that movie,I will buy it as soon as it comes out!
 

Beauty Mark

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The thing with feminism is that it's not only about liberating women (so that they can do whatever they want with their sexuality as with these young ladies), but it's also about educating all women about the problems of gender in society, so women will be more apt to make decisions that benefit themselves and all women in general. Because honestly, if half of women position themselves to be objectified by men, how can other women ever be taken seriously as individuals? You see, it hurts us all, just like if a gay person makes a bad impression on someone, and that someone concludes that all gay people must be bad. It's unfortunate, because it isn't true, but we live in a very bigoted society that will make blanket statements about an entire gender. Women do this about themselves, even!

I don't agree that we as women should act x, y, or z just because we don't want to hurt the group. That kind of mentality is anti-feminist, IMO. To me, feminism is about letting the individual decide for herself, like a man is capable of making decisions for himself. I'm all for working together and organizing ourselves as a group, but I'm not for the idea that one woman needs to think of how her actions are affecting the greater group.

Marilyn Monroe was a deeply disturbed woman, from what I understand. Beautiful, talented, but troubled as anything. I don't think most of her problems were linked to just being typecast. In terms of money not bringing happiness, no one said that it does. The girls who are working for Playboy in whatever capacity- well, they're not children. They choose to make a decision to work there. I don't see their decision being antifeminist. Naive, maybe? Stupid, perhaps? But regardless, it is their decision to be made. By treating them like they don't know any better, it is infantilizing them. Not in the same way a lot of porn does, but it's treating them like children.

A number of women do things that are seen as very traditional woman things, like quitting their jobs and being stay at home mothers. I don't feel that it's their obligation to me to stay in the workforce just so my employer doesn't think I'm going to follow suit. I'm doing the traditional Asian thing and going into science; I don't feel that it's my duty to be a different kind of Asian.

I've encountered enough ignorance in my life to realize some people are happy to believe stereotypes, no matter how much compelling evidence they have. Instead of holding the group accountable, why aren't we holding the stereotypers accountable to not examine everyone as an individual??

I don't think anyone is denying that there are feminist issues in the US, but I find it very hard to see them in Playboy, in terms of the business practices.

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yes they are naked but naked is natural isnt it? we all have naked bodies so i dont see why people get so angry over these magazines

For me, my issues with Playboy isn't the nudity but the kind of beauty they choose to represent. The one cover in the OP, I find kind of creepy, honestly, because it's making a grown woman look like a kid. This isn't an issue that's unique to Playboy. There are some others, but I must get work done tonight.
 

metal_romantic

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Originally Posted by glam8babe
...yes they are naked but naked is natural isnt it? we all have naked bodies so i dont see why people get so angry over these magazines

I see where you're coming from... but I don't think the stereotypical Playboy bunny body is very "natural", lol :p
I think everybody can figure out straight away the couple of things I am talking about... I think that's what may send a harmful message rather than just nudity. Nudity of itself is not offensive.
 

DancingBrave

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Interesting article. I especially like the part about mock feminism and totally agree that's what playboy and it's bunnies are all about.

I'm for porn--I just despise their back door approach to getting women on board.
 

mtrimier

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Originally Posted by DancingBrave
I just despise their back door approach to getting women on board.

LOL! Sorry, but that went totally pervy in my head when i read it!
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BEA2LS

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i have no real problem with playboy, i loved to watch the girls next door but i heard some creepy stuff about the mansion - i want to read bunny tails.. hef kind of grosses me out, to be honest.
 

L1LMAMAJ

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i would never voluntarily buy accessories from playboy (necklace, earrings, etc.) i don't even think the bunny is cute. it looks kinda creepy. LOL.
 

User35

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To me the playboy symbol is nothing but trash. Numerous gangs around the US use the playboy bunny for their tattoos and graffiti. And their merhcandise to me is cheap and tacky. Bright colored plastic purses, shoes, wallets ect with a rabbit on it??? no thanks !
 

DancingBrave

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Originally Posted by mtrimier
LOL! Sorry, but that went totally pervy in my head when i read it!
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Haha. I'm pretty good at being disgusting when I don't meant to.
 

L1LMAMAJ

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Originally Posted by TISH1127
My husband subscribes to Playboy...I have no problem with it..I flip through them occasionally...But most of his issues are still in the wrapper...Not sure why he subscribes when most issues he never even open...I guess maybe he likes the idea they are there if he decides too look at a certain issue. Must be a guy thing
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But it does seem to always have very interesting articles to read.


There are articles?? To me, I always thought Playboy were just magazines filled with only pictures. Haha I guess u can call me naive. I've never seen a Playboy before!

...Which reminds me of the episode in Friends where Ross and Chandler fight about whether the joke Ross sent to Playboy was written by either Ross or Chandler. XD
 

blindpassion

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Originally Posted by L1LMAMAJ
There are articles?? To me, I always thought Playboy were just magazines filled with only pictures. Haha I guess u can call me naive. I've never seen a Playboy before!

...Which reminds me of the episode in Friends where Ross and Chandler fight about whether the joke Ross sent to Playboy was written by either Ross or Chandler. XD



theres a LOT of articles - just like every other magazine
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