You seriously have to be kidding me.

Shimmer

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Are parents this lazy now? Really?

I'm sorry y'all.
I'm vain, shallow, self centered, egomaniacal, and any other word you can think of that goes along with this general vein of thinking but I will NOT allow my children to become little fatbodies.
WHY is it so much to ask that parents make sure their kids grow up healthily?

what started the rant

Granted, I'm not perfect as a parent....but my kids are REQUIRED to have a physical extracurricular activity.
They are required to do something besides sit in front of that GD tv and video game and veg out.
WHY is this so difficult for others to grasp????
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YvetteJeannine

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I remember my mother always HATED when she saw overwieght children. She always said that it's really a form of abuse.

I have relatives that "made" all their kids fat so they'd always have a buddy to hang around with..we're talking seriously obese people here.

I tend to agree w/ my mother..
 

Shimmer

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The health issues that being overweight brings about ... and to allow it as a parent?
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Not parent of the year worth IMO. :/
 

sewpunk

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Originally Posted by YvetteJeannine
I have relatives that "made" all their kids fat so they'd always have a buddy to hang around with..we're talking seriously obese people here.

me too! It's a sickness some people have. Sad but true.
 

Raerae

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The sad part about all of this, is that it comes completely down to parenting, and it's 100% preventable imho...

My moms and size 2 at 56 years of age, i'm a size 0, i'm 24. It's not all genetics... What it does come down too... Is PARENT SUPERVISION!!!

I saw that article and was floored... The whole process just smells of parent laziness...

I remember going shopping for food with my Mom... You want cereal? Ok, you can get Kix, Plain Cheerios, Plain Rice Crispies, oatmeal, etc. Oh you want (Insert cereal with sugar or marshmellow, etc here), my mom would always say, "Thats nice, let it stay there. I'll buy you some Banana's or Strawberries to put in your cereal, you'll like it better, I promise."

And you know what?!? It is better. Fresh fruit >>>>>>>> sugar and marshmellows ANY DAY. But your Mom needs to stop being lazy and cut it up for her kids and put it in the bowl. Or at the very least, open a can of peaches (the kind in WATER, not sugar), and put a few slices in the bowl. C'mon people, it's not hard.

Want your kids to stop buying crap for lunch? PACK THEM A LUNCH. Stop being lazy and letting your kids eat deep fried tatertots, and pizza, and frenchfries, and SODA every day. You all know what they are eating, you saw it when you were in highschool. It's crap. Why? Because cheap crappy food thats BAD FOR YOU, is inexpensive. Why do you thing fast food stores have DOLLAR menu's.

Is is THAT hard to buy a loaf of Sheepherder's bread, put a little mayo and mustard, some slices of TURKEY (not all that bologna or other processed meat crap with slices of KRAFT processed cheese), some lettuce, a slice of tomatoe, and wrap it in tin foil and put it in your kids lunchbox with an icepack? Do you have to throw artificial fruit snacks in the bag? How about some trail mix or a 1/2 of an apple (cut into slices) and a granola bar (stop putting poptarts into kids lunches), and maybe a juce box with REAL Juice, or a THERMIS with some OJ or some other healthy juice in it. STOP LETTING THEM DRINK SODA EVERYDAY!

If you feed your kids a proper breakfast, they wont be hungry until lunch, and if you pack them a proper lunch, they wont eat bad food... It's totally the parents fault, and it drives me absoluteley nuts when i see obese kids.
 

mzcelaneous

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That's exactly why I refuse to have a TV in my daughter's room and why her TV time is limited to 1 hour a day.

Seriously.

I don't care what people say...I am NOT going to place her in front of the TV just so I can "rest" or have some "free time". The TV isn't a babysitter!

"You won't even let her watch Saturday morning cartoons?" Well, not ALL GD morning! Geez. There are plenty of fun things to do other than become a couch potato.

Sorry for that rant, I just had someone pestering me about that recently.
 

caffn8me

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There is an interesting article on the BBC news website today about a teenager who weighs about 476 pounds - see here
 

Vicky88

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Originally Posted by caffn8me
There is an interesting article on the BBC news website today about a teenager who weighs about 476 pounds - see here

Check out BBC Three on Monday at 9. There is a documentary about her.

As you may or may not know by my previous posts, I'm really overweight.

My mum admits that it started when I was younger because she wanted me to have everything I wanted (I think perhaps because she was 21 and my father wasn't around so possible some kind of guilt factor? Not sure) and although I (and she) knows this wasn't right. I don't blame her for it, I am 18 now and it's up to me to lose weight if I want to.

Perhaps I am a hypocrit for saying this because I am overweight, but I think weight loss surgery is wrong. Overweight people, who turn to surgery, are just too lazy to TRY. If you eat healthily and exercise, you WILL lose weight. But people are too quick to take the easy option and take pills or have surgery and claim that they have tried, or that they can't lose weight. Everyone can lose weight, stop being so ridiculous.

I wish that my mum had encouraged me to be more active as a child, made me join a club or taken me out for more walks but that's over now and she and I have both learned that is how we need to raise children (when/if I ever have them and her for my 2 year old brother, and her baby on the way!).

That article you posted Shimmer, really annoys me. To be eligible for the surgery, you need to prove that you have bee trying to lose weight by losing a certain amount beforehand - so if they do that, why are they still having the surgery? They clearly CAN lose weight. IF. THEY. TRY.

Secondly, I think a lot of people expect to be able to continue eating what they want after the surgery and still live a sedentry lifestyle. Which (I hope) is wrong. I don't want the world to become lazy. We really need to change it!
 

Shimmer

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so if they do that, why are they still having the surgery? They clearly CAN lose weight. IF. THEY. TRY.

This isn't true.
Many patients who undergo GBS HAVE been fighting the weight for a LONG time, and NOT been able to lose the weight necessary to improve their health.
Yes there are individuals like the ones you mentioned but given the risks of GBS and the fact that most surgeons require psyche eval (at least any of the surgeons I worked with did) as well as counseling before permitting the surgery, those individuals are far fewer than the ones who undergo the surgerybecause it's medically necessary.
 

Raerae

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i just dont understand it...

if you are religious about your diet, eat healthy, and add a little bit of physical activity into your life, it should be possible for anyone to lose weight. And the activity doesn't even have to be all that. Buy a dog, walk a few miles. If you decrease your portion size your stomache will shrink on it's own, no stapling needed.

Eat a small healthy breakfast, like a bowl of oatmeal. A sensibly portioned lunch (eat a 6 inch sub and drink a bottle of water, not 12 inches, chips a cookie, and a large extra large coke), and a healthy dinner, again sensibly portioned.

My expierence with friends who are dieting, is they can stick to the 3 main meals a day part of the diet, but dince there not used to eating reduced calories, they SNACK all the time. Which basically defeats the purpose of dieting if your eating little things all day ontop of big meals.
 

Shimmer

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Sorry, it doesn't work for everyone that way.
It's logical to me, or you, who don't weight 468 lbs but unfortunately, not everyone who is morbidly obese is able to shed the weight.
It doesn't always work.
 

Vicky88

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I stand corrected. I didn't realise it was impossible for some people to lose weight so sorry about that!
 

Tyester

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It's never impossible. Some people just have to work harder than others at what their trying to achieve.

Remember: Whenever there's a will, there's always a way or an excuse.
 

Shimmer

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If you feed your kids a proper breakfast, they wont be hungry until lunch, and if you pack them a proper lunch, they wont eat bad food... It's totally the parents fault, and it drives me absoluteley nuts when i see obese kids



I have to disagree here as well. My six year old has a metabolism like a crack addicted tazmanian devil. Regardless of what he eats at 630 a.m...but 9:30 he is shaky and HUNGRY.
It's better to eat several small meals a day than three large ones, numerous studies have shown this.
 

Shimmer

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Additionally:
There is NOTHING easy about gastric bypass.
The recovery is hard.
The post surgery surgeries are hard.
The maintenance is hard.
NONE of that is the 'easy way'.
 

Vicky88

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What I meant was that people perceive it as an easy way out. Not all people, of course not. But some!

I have watched several doumentaries on TV about weight loss and people say they are considering surgery. Some people seem to think that just because the option of surgery is there, they don't have to try in the first place.

Obviously there are people out there who need the surgery and it's great that they can have it! But I think a lot of obese people have psychological problems with food even addiction as mentioned above.

I'm not a doctor, and I don't claim to know everything (or even anything!) about the surgery and procedures. Perhaps I am talking bull, but this is just based of everything I gather from tv and the news etc. etc.
 

mzcelaneous

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Originally Posted by Shimmer
I have to disagree here as well. My six year old has a metabolism like a crack addicted tazmanian devil. Regardless of what he eats at 630 a.m...but 9:30 he is shaky and HUNGRY.
It's better to eat several small meals a day than three large ones, numerous studies have shown this.


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My daughter is always hungry, but is skinny-bone-jones. She takes after her father who is the same exact way. I, on the other hand, have tried almost everything short of surgery to lose weight. Even though I have a thyroid problem, it's still possible to loose weight -- but it's so freakin' hard!!!! I'm not obese and some people will think I'm crazy for trying to shed some pounds but I'm not at my personal weight goal at this moment.

Anyway....back to the topic. Parents need to enforce good eating habits from the start. Don't give that 2 year old a "small" cheeseburger. Don't use food as a reward or bribe. Don't go to the drive-thru because you're lazy. Just don't. Bottom line.
 

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