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Originally Posted by swaly
I don't think either of those things...I'm trying to have a conversation.
I was pointing out all the points that were made that are simply untrue, that stemmed from the poster's ignorance or not watching the video. For instance, when a hair stylist is saying that bleached hair doesn't grow, that needs to be corrected.
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woah there nelly....
More than a little abrasive and rude to say that my points were simply untrue and "from the poster's ignorance" when it seems that you simply just misunderstood my post. At this point i am going to give you the benefit of the doubt and say "YES, she misunderstood!" and address what i can LOL
Honestly I wasn't even replying to the video being posted...i was replying to the concept that hairstylists are afraid of bleach and just want more money but since you took the time with such a lengthy and impassioned reply....I'll play
I think you made a lot of assumptions in your post....and are speaking as "the" authority without understanding.
In Southern California the products mentioned at the beginning of the video are NOT available to the public and shouldn't be elsewhere in the US (can't speak on outside of the US as i don't know). You have to be licensed to purchase Goldwell or Schwarzkopf (Igora), that is FACT. If someone is purchasing it without a license, the seller is violating their contract with the mfg. If she had said "i use Wella Wellite that i get at Sallys" ...different story.
I didn't mean that it *literally* wouldn't grow
from the scalp. I should have used the words "gain length" because if hair splits/breaks off at the ends and up the shaft, it certainly won't get any longer.
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Originally Posted by swaly
I don't fry my hair off when I do it at home (because I educated myself about how the process works). That's what I'm trying to say. The reason you see so many people with wrecked home dye jobs is because they don't educate themselves and don't understand how what they're doing physically and chemically affects their hair, but learning those things isn't a talent, it's a learned skill.
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numbering is just easier than trying to grab quotes
1. being educated does not equal willy-nilly. Most people grab a box of color and think they are gonna end up like the pretty girl in the picture.
2. so anyone could be a haircolorist?
3. do *you* know the difference between color products available to the public and pro only or how your hair reacts to something versus how my hair would?
Just saying...yes it works for you and you are a great fisherwoman (?) *for yourself* but that doesn't mean your neighbor would be able to catch an edible fish with the same tools....
4. bleach isn't bleach...yes, same *basic* chemical process but some have a lot more going on. Why Basic White is like $5 and Blonde Icing is $28
5. you can do just as much damage with 20vl as you can with 40...just faster.
6. You don't have to work in a "punk salon" to be punk rock or wear/do non mainstream/commercial hair - my salon has a very very traditional upscale vibe but i'll punk your ass LOL
7. I personally LIKE outlandish requests...it presents an opportunity to be challenged and get more creative, I welcome it. This is my
career that i take very seriously. A lot of time, money, and training has been invested so I take a bit of offense (just a small bit tho cuz i know what's really up) when people say i am providing inaccurate information because they misunderstood my post or that anyone can learn to do their color at home. Like doing hair is like having an easy-bake oven (well it is for me
). Sure they can but like clslvr6spd said (again i agree LOL) more eff it up than get it right.
8. I have clients that can't afford to have their color done at the salon so i do my best to advise them on how they can get the best results possible without me.
9. my hair won't do anything without bleach. I wasn't blessed with strong, amazing, thick hair but everyone thinks so, so
. Currently it is platinum and black...
I guess if I missed anything I should have addressed someone will kindly point it out
EDIT: I remembered something else i wanted to address....
It is very rare for anyone today to have virgin hair...most people have had highlights or color or color on top of highlights or highlights on top of color and so on and so on...... so it isn't just about slapping on something else.
if someone had been doing/getting highlights and wants to just go all over blonde....how would you go about getting the untouched pieces blonde enough without melting the already highlighted pieces at home? Textured is in but probably not to that extent
same sitch but they wanted to go darker...could you pick the right formula and not end up with mud (color not texture) or with even color on the entire strand of hair?
the above are rhetorical...
If i wasn't so into people having what they want with as little pain, frustration, and expense as possible i would be shouting "color your hair at home!" from the rooftops so i could fix it for more than what it would have cost them had they come to me in the first place ....same way i feel about supercuts LOL