MAC and Gareth Pugh Discussion

luvlydee

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Back in the day, you could find super light, near white face powder from the high end brands - not all of them, but a decent variety. Nowadays, the trend's been so overloaded with bronzers, I think the mainstream mentality is pretty much opposed to something so lightening and whitening. The good news is fashion and beauty are cyclical, so a brand like MAC will do a powder like Elude, see how it goes and then perhaps offer something else along the same lines down the road when they can be sure they can get it featured on the runways and in magazine editorials, etc.
Keep your eyes peeled next fall/winter season - maybe we'll see another beauty powder or LE MSFN or other powder formula in off-white (which is basically what Elude is). There's got to be a backlash against bronze and also against the ultra-natural face look we've had for a couple years and which is sort of reaching an extreme level with Spring '12. I don't see a color like this getting added to anyone's permanent range for a few years going forward, if at all, though.

You'll find one, rockin - at your price point!

I think also bronzing is so much easier to do across a whole range of skin tones as suppose to a pale face because WOC can't just slap on a very light powder because we'll just look ashy as hell
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Mac-Guy

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Guise pigment is a metallic finish piggie in a neutral silver that leans slightly on the cool side. The texture reminds me a bit of the gold of the STO crushed metal stack, though it is less creamy, but it is certainly in the same family. It needs to be brushed on with a firm brush rather than padded on. The latter one will result in fall-out whereas the former method reduced the fall-out to a minimum (not more than any other piggie). Guise is a gorgeous color for the lower lashline as it adds dimension and brightens up the area depending how the light hits it, which can range from a metallic sheen to a sophisticated grey. It is not the most unique pigment out there, but due to its neutral tone, it stands out from other silver shades.

The pigment jar is stunning and I don't find it tacky. Mind you, it is not the metal version as the compact, but it still feels heavy in comparison to the regular pigment jars. Due to the shape, it is also less prone to tip over and spill like the skinny piggies seems to do.

The reduced amount of product is a slight bummer, but a little goes a very long way as for the brush out method, you only need a tiny amount. Because of that, I don't feel the need to BU it as I do with most other products that I buy (and I only buy product that I believe in as I do not purchase products just for the hype or the sake of having them in my stash. I only buy what I actually use).

$32 is certainly a stretch, but the pigment jar is nice enough to warrant a higher price.

I can see Guise working on a range of complexions, both lighter NW ones and darker NC shades. It is also a shade that would work well during the summer months.
 

LMD84

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The 182 GP kabuki has very soft hair that is perfectly shaped in a tapered doom. While new MAC brushes usually shed a few hairs when they are new, this one has not lost a single hair (yet) despite daily use and cleansing with water and baby shampoo. The bristles are rather soft but firm enough allow a firm grip that does not bend completely when it touches the skin. It has the right amount of bounce to buff out an MSF or a b/p. If applying Elude directly with it, you need to be careful as it will pick up a lot of product. For that reason, I do not recommend applying Elude directly with the 182 GP, but using the 131 followed by the kabuki to buff it out. The bristles are more stiff than the 179, but they are not scratchy at all. The bristles seems to be a bit shorter than the regular 182, which is an added bonus as it justifies buying another kabuki.

The handle is stunning and due to the quadrangle socket, it's easier to hold than a round version. However, the material is more prone to fingerprints than the regular 182. Please note that the brush is produced in China, which is labeled on the side of the handle.

In terms of pricing, I find the kabuki the most affordable product of this collection. Yes, it still costs $60 bucks, but when you compare the regular 182 at a price of $50, the added 10 bucks seem to be a piece of cake featuring the smallest mark-up of all the GP products.
oh my.... i need this kabuki so bad right now!
 

Mac-Guy

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Deceit and Guise.
 

liba

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I think also bronzing is so much easier to do across a whole range of skin tones as suppose to a pale face because WOC can't just slap on a very light powder because we'll just look ashy as hell
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Absolutely, although I'd be really curious to see what Elude would do on someone with a deep but neutral skin tone. Maybe it'd still look horribly ashy, but it's got a pretty unique texture and effect - it might give a soft radiant, non-shimmer, non-sparkle highlight, like being bathed in moonlight- rather than being ashen. I know I always thought a silver highlight on very dark skin looked ethereally gorgeous for nighttime. If anyone here dares to try it out and reports back, I'd love to hear your results. FOR SCIENCE!
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EDIT: That reminds me....I wore Elude out last night and there's something else it does that's super cool. In low light situations, it makes your face look stupendously smooth and if there are colored lights, your face will read as evenly bathed in that color of light, rather than the patchy way it usually can look under a red light or green light, etc. That super low, stealth light reflection finish is what does it. If you're a photographer or a MUA or model who does photo work, this is way way way way better than strobe powder. You could shoot amazing looks with colored gels and get a photoshopped, airbrush finish without having to retouch afterwards. I don't own another product that's quite like this for photos.
 

Mac-Guy

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Deceit pigment was love on the second sight, at least for me. The texture of Deceit is extremely fine, making it very easy to apply with virtually no fall-out issues at all. The color is a burgundy-purple with a slight brown hue. If the light hits it, it almost has a mauve sheen to it, which makes it very attractive for those who love the lilac family. In terms of color range, it reflects the undertones of Outrage l/g. For those with blue or green eyes, Deceit will make your eyes pop in a very understated but dramatic way. Personally, I use it on the lower lashline and the outer V.

It is a stunning pigment to create a dramatic smokey eye w/o drawing from black or grey shades (the usual!), thus IMO it is a must for those days, where you want to add some drama to your MU. Having said that, if you use a light hand, it is certainly wearable during the day time, especially if paired with a neutral lip such as Restrict. Deceit adheres very well to the skin and with a p/p as a base, I get an all-day wear even under stage lights.

The burgundy-purple character of Deceit makes it an ideal companion for the pale Elude look. While it contains some brown hues, it is cool enough to be stunning on cool complexions while at the same time, I can see it working well on warmer tones. It certainly has a very seductive element to it, as it looks very mysterious when applied as a smokey eye. It's a sophisticated sexiness that reminds me of old Hollywood movies but with a modern cutting edge.
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If you don't want to pay 32 bucks, there might be a chance that it eventually turns up in CCO's (my guess), so there is no guarantee. If you don't want to take the chance, I'd get it to complement the dramatic side of your stash.
 

Mac-Guy

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More reviews (n/p, Metal X, Strada) once I find the time... It might not be until mid-December unless I can squeeze it in.
 

Alisha1

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The 182 GP kabuki has very soft hair that is perfectly shaped in a tapered doom. While new MAC brushes usually shed a few hairs when they are new, this one has not lost a single hair (yet) despite daily use and cleansing with water and baby shampoo. The bristles are rather soft but firm enough allow a firm grip that does not bend completely when it touches the skin. It has the right amount of bounce to buff out an MSF or a b/p. If applying Elude directly with it, you need to be careful as it will pick up a lot of product. For that reason, I do not recommend applying Elude directly with the 182 GP, but using the 131 followed by the kabuki to buff it out. The bristles are more stiff than the 179, but they are not scratchy at all. The bristles seems to be a bit shorter than the regular 182, which is an added bonus as it justifies buying another kabuki.

The handle is stunning and due to the quadrangle socket, it's easier to hold than a round version. However, the material is more prone to fingerprints than the regular 182. Please note that the brush is produced in China, which is labeled on the side of the handle.

In terms of pricing, I find the kabuki the most affordable product of this collection. Yes, it still costs $60 bucks, but when you compare the regular 182 at a price of $50, the added 10 bucks seem to be a piece of cake featuring the smallest mark-up of all the GP products.
Thanks for the review :)
 

Mac-Guy

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Absolutely, although I'd be really curious to see what Elude would do on someone with a deep but neutral skin tone. Maybe it'd still look horribly ashy, but it's got a pretty unique texture and effect - it might give a soft radiant, non-shimmer, non-sparkle highlight, like being bathed in moonlight- rather than being ashen. I know I always thought a silver highlight on very dark skin looked ethereally gorgeous for nighttime. If anyone here dares to try it out and reports back, I'd love to hear your results. FOR SCIENCE!
fluffy.gif


EDIT: That reminds me....I wore Elude out last night and there's something else it does that's super cool. In low light situations, it makes your face look stupendously smooth and if there are colored lights, your face will read as evenly bathed in that color of light, rather than the patchy way it usually can look under a red light or green light, etc. That super low, stealth light reflection finish is what does it. If you're a photographer or a MUA or model who does photo work, this is way way way way better than strobe powder. You could shoot amazing looks with colored gels and get a photoshopped, airbrush finish without having to retouch afterwards. I don't own another product that's quite like this for photos.
I believe that is due to the light reflecting qualities that are much more sophisticated than any other powder I have encountered in the past. Some products even out the skintone, they are matte and the surface looks completely flat, while others add too much luminosity, which can easily be too much. Elude features the best of both worlds and I hope that MAC continues to release this formula in other shades.
 

liba

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The burgundy-purple character of Deceit makes it an ideal companion for the pale Elude look. While it contains some brown hues, it is cool enough to be stunning on cool complexions while at the same time, I can see it working well on warmer tones. It certainly has a very seductive element to it, as it looks very mysterious when applied as a smokey eye. It's a sophisticated sexiness that reminds me of old Hollywood movies but with a modern cutting edge.
flower.gif


If you don't want to pay 32 bucks, there might be a chance that it eventually turns up in CCO's (my guess), so there is no guarantee. If you don't want to take the chance, I'd get it to complement the dramatic side of your stash.
This brings up an interesting point I've been thinking about after living with these products for a few days. This collection doesn't really beat you over the head with its uniqueness just looking at it in the store. In use, though, it's remarkably well edited and cohesive. You can buy every product and wear a full face of all of it and feel perfectly put together, sophisticated and not over-done. On top of it, there's something about the colors for me that feels very "signature", like you have a real statement look, but it's YOUR personal statement, not some fashion person's opinion slathered on top of the real you. That is super difficult to come by, if you ask me, but somehow this collection manages to do it, very much in part to the perfect texture interplay of the products. I feel like I could be one of those glamorous women who wear the exact same makeup every single day permanently for life with Elude, Restrict and the lashes - except I like variety & I'm too much of a chameleon, so it won't happen, but this is the first time I've ever been so tempted to go for that.
 

Mac-Guy

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Just got an email from MAC CS stating that the Metal X shadows won't be available online for about 2 weeks. :-(

At least they will eventually show up. I'm glad I got the first batch at my store, but I'm in dare need of an Ardent BU, so I'm hanging in there as well as my store has sold out the few that they received.
 

Edelmc

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At least they will eventually show up. I'm glad I got the first batch at my store, but I'm in dare need of an Ardent BU, so I'm hanging in there as well as my store has sold out the few that they received.
I know you mentioned that you don't have to time to do an in-depth review of the metal x shadows today but do you know if they crease easily?
 

Edelmc

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At least they will eventually show up. I'm glad I got the first batch at my store, but I'm in dare need of an Ardent BU, so I'm hanging in there as well as my store has sold out the few that they received.
I know you mentioned that you don't have to time to do an in-depth review of the metal x shadows today but do you know if they crease easily?
 

liba

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At least they will eventually show up. I'm glad I got the first batch at my store, but I'm in dare need of an Ardent BU, so I'm hanging in there as well as my store has sold out the few that they received.
My store didn't even get them, which makes me doubt if any other non-pro store in town got them. I can wait as long as needs be, but Ardent looks like the one Metal X shadow to get, even if the formula is not the absolute best.
 

Mac-Guy

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I know you mentioned that you don't have to time to do an in-depth review of the metal x shadows today but do you know if they crease easily?

I used a p/p (Painterly) as a base and I set the crease with a powder and they lasted me through a matinee and evening performance (heavy stage lights) w/o creasing. It is essential to set the crease with a powder though. I hope that helps as initial thought.
 

Mac-Guy

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This brings up an interesting point I've been thinking about after living with these products for a few days. This collection doesn't really beat you over the head with its uniqueness just looking at it in the store. In use, though, it's remarkably well edited and cohesive. You can buy every product and wear a full face of all of it and feel perfectly put together, sophisticated and not over-done. On top of it, there's something about the colors for me that feels very "signature", like you have a real statement look, but it's YOUR personal statement, not some fashion person's opinion slathered on top of the real you. That is super difficult to come by, if you ask me, but somehow this collection manages to do it, very much in part to the perfect texture interplay of the products. I feel like I could be one of those glamorous women who wear the exact same makeup every single day permanently for life with Elude, Restrict and the lashes - except I like variety & I'm too much of a chameleon, so it won't happen, but this is the first time I've ever been so tempted to go for that.
"Edited" is the right expression as all the products go so well together. While I do thoroughly enjoy huge collection just for the pure fun of selection products, GP was much easier to navigate though it was so much more expensive as I took almost all the products including several BU's. The cohesiveness of the collections is a major plus, but it is more pricey in all aspects. It feels like a mix-and-match collection, where every product goes well with any other product of the collection. Usually, I skip l/s and l/g, but the versatility of the GP ones made me want all of them.

I hope MAC continues to edit their collections as I do like to buy full-face-look collections rather than single products. Like you, I enjoy using different products each day, but having a complete set of products that go so well together is a definitive asset.
 

Edelmc

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I used a p/p (Painterly) as a base and I set the crease with a powder and they lasted me through a matinee and evening performance (heavy stage lights) w/o creasing. It is essential to set the crease with a powder though. I hope that helps as initial thought.
Thats perfect thanks
 

Teggy

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Glimpsed the collection briefly at the Vegas Pro store and went "Meh." The burgundy lipgloss with green sparkle looks cool swatched, but not so much on lips. I was almost going to just buy a pan of Strada with a palate, but they were out, so I skipped. No biggie.
 
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