I think this is true for a lot of people, but what I also think is that there are very few swatches of these products. Many people agree that things pull strangely on T, so hers are hard to use, especially for such a pricey product. And Karen is also pretty medium/medium dark and warm, so super pale ladies and WOC can't entirely judge from her either. I think once more pics start coming out (like ours) more people will jump on them. Also, ebay sellers want high profit margins...easy to get 100%-200% profit on a $17 lipstick...not so much with a $30. The ladies who buy MAC will probably not shell out $60-$90, and from comments here and elsewhere, many are not sure at MSRP. Just my