Occ and Jcats might have the same packaging, but I really doubt they're the same formula. The Jcats formula is horrible and bleeds like crazy. The pigmentation isn't the same as occ either.
The problem with comparing the two is that they have different colors. Yes, they have the same packaging and I imagine they have different formulations. The quality grade of the formula may be less but I don't doubt they came from the same manufacturer though.Occ and Jcats might have the same packaging, but I really doubt they're the same formula. The Jcats formula is horrible and bleeds like crazy. The pigmentation isn't the same as occ either.
Oh I know. I think people are aware that containers can be bought in bulk and aren't necessarily indicators that the product is the same.With the smaller brands same packaging doesn't mean the actual product inside is made by the same manufacturer, just that the brand is using generic, bulk buy empty containers.
Thanks for your input. Nice to know.I have quite a bit of knowledge on this as I've worked in beauty for 5+ years and started my career on the Ops/Purchasing side. There are only so many labs and manufacturers for cosmetics. Some of the big big big brands (L'Oreal, Lauder, etc) have their own, but most of the smaller and indie brands must fend for themselves.
A lot of the times you'll see super similar products within each company "family". Like L'Oreal will launch a new mascara, and then a couple of months later the almost exact mascara is launched by Maybelline but it has a different name and POD (point of difference). It's all about marketing; L'Oreal has a more luxurious brand image, and Maybelline is more funky and young. It happens with Lancome and L'Oreal too; like a trickle from Prestige to Mass. It's all made in the same exact place; the formula might differ VERY slightly but it's essentially the same.
So what many people don't know is that there are two different types of manufacturing with cosmetics. Consignment, which means that part of the product is produced in one place and then sent to another place to be filled. For instance: one manufacturer makes the mascara tube, brush, wiper, cap, and bottom label and then sends it to another manufacturer to be filled with the actual mascara formula. Then that is shipped to the brand's distribution center. The other type is Turnkey, which means one manufacturer produces all the components to the product.
Another common practice is for a brand to copy the other lol. I saw someone post a picture of the OCC Lip Tar with the J.Cat. This is a perfect case of that. It's a knockoff - it might be a great/cheaper alternative, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's the same exact formula.
So if you do see very similar packaging on products, it could just mean they're using the same component manufacturers.
At the brand I work for, we make a very unique and distinctive mascara. We found out that a much, much lower-end brand was launching a copycat product. It looked the same. However, this brand definitely didn't use the same manufacturer because our actual component and formula cost more than what the brand was retailing the product for.
Just keep an open mind and read the labels!