The war in Iraq (split from WHO is Jesus?)

[Lalli]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...59923762628848

watch the damn thing shimmer and then come back to me and ask why im asking questions.

 

[Lalli]

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Originally Posted by shimmer She made a typo. You ask questions, then when you hear an answer you don't like you say "OH that can't be it!!!" and discount it. You can't keep up with the pace with which your mouth is firing off. You DON'T know what you're talking about, you've yet to cite ANYTHING other than to freely admit you're regurgitating what the media has fed you. You ARE of a younger crowd. You're nineteen. You haven't figured out a LOT of life yet. You DO need to educate yourself, as is evidenced by your syntax and grammar, as well as your repeated reluctance to accept what is handed to you as truth.

when have i said that cnt be it, just because i fight back dont mean my point isnt valid, u need to shut up sit down and stop trying to come accross as miss knw it all, if im asking something and ive seen such documentries and everything YOU claim contradicts its im bound to think oh hold on that dont make sense.

 

[Lalli]

my syntax and grammer has nothing to do with this, you probably dont even know how to fucking learn a whole book off by heart, theres loads of people on this site who cant spell or even write properly so your that arugment is weak, so id suggest you try something else

 

[Hawkeye]

Again you're getting into the same boat, you think everything you see and hear is the truth.

Look closely at this. It's just nothing more than a good narration with some jazzy music. You're asking questions because you can't think for yourself and if you could you would give us resources like we have, you would give us facts, you would give us credible documentation instead you give us THIS? This is beyond laughable. You then tell us things never happened.

Who exactly does all the thinking for you Lalli? You're peers? You're parents?

 

[Shimmer]

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Originally Posted by Lalli http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...59923762628848 watch the damn thing shimmer and then come back to me and ask why im asking questions.

Oh good GOD.
THIS.
THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE USING????
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
That video has been debunked so many times it's not even funny.
Why aren't you questioning why people made that video after reading (which you said you did, obviously not) the link I gave you last night?

 

[Lalli]

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Originally Posted by youbeabitch Again you're getting into the same boat, you think everything you see and hear is the truth. Look closely at this. It's just nothing more than a good narration with some jazzy music. You're asking questions because you can't think for yourself and if you could you would give us resources like we have, you would give us facts, you would give us credible documentation instead you give us THIS? This is beyond laughable. You then tell us things never happened. Who exactly does all the thinking for you Lalli? You're peers? You're parents?

im asking questions which i hear around me everday what do you want me to do get everyone to sign up and list questions and give their views. i think for myself, what happned in america i have no intrest in it accept for the loss of all those lives. theories float around everyday yet by providing facts which are one sided isnt enough,

 

[Lalli]

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Originally Posted by shimmer Oh good GOD. THIS. THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE USING???? ARE YOU KIDDING ME? That video has been debunked so many times it's not even funny. Why aren't you questioning why people made that video after reading (which you said you did, obviously not) the link I gave you last night?

all im after is simple facts. the documentry is still floating around. loads of people have questioned the state of your so called great nation. if you're going to slate everything i say and be rude to me i have no intentions of speaking to you. you need to get your head back out of your ass

 

[Shimmer]

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Originally Posted by Lalli my syntax and grammer has nothing to do with this, you probably dont even know how to fucking learn a whole book off by heart, theres loads of people on this site who cant spell or even write properly so your that arugment is weak, so id suggest you try something else

Darling, when one wishes to be taken seriously, with regard to subject matter such as the one being discussed, one generally presents an articulate, intelligent, well thought out, well considered appearance.
Memorization is not a talent.
Ability to assimilate information and then question what was discussed is a mark of an intelligent individual.
Original and novel thoughts are the mark of an intelligent individual, one who is willing to see the other side, question it, and then consider it may be right.

As all you are willing to do is regurgitate questions that you have heard on the telly, you are the one with a weak argument my dear.

 

[Shimmer]

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Originally Posted by Lalli im asking questions which i hear around me everday what do you want me to do get everyone to sign up and list questions and give their views. i think for myself, what happned in america i have no intrest in it accept for the loss of all those lives. theories float around everyday yet by providing facts which are one sided isnt enough,

No, you aren't listening. You aren't reading. You aren't taking into consideration what is being explained. You are behaving like a 4 year old...WHY WHY WHY BLAHBLAHBLAH WHY WHY WHY I don't like that answer give me a different one...

 

[Hawkeye]

" I am asking questions which I hear everyday"

I believe we have our answer.

And what do I want you to do? I want you to think for yourself, become educated in yourself with the situation, find credible evidence and back it up.

But thinking for yourself is hard isn't it? Because then you can't run to the group to get answers for you. You actually have to think and throughout this entire thread that is something I have seen lacking in many of your posts. You're ability to form a sound argument.

And if you are after simple facts, LOOK THEM UP in credible sources. They will give you simple facts.

 

[Shimmer]

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Originally Posted by Lalli all im after is simple facts. the documentry is still floating around. loads of people have questioned the state of your so called great nation. if you're going to slate everything i say and be rude to me i have no intentions of speaking to you. you need to get your head back out of your ass

I am not the one incapable of original thought.
I am not the one who needs media to feed me my opinions.
I am not the one who requires a conspiracy theory to back up my arguments.

My head is up my ass? No darling, you're the one enjoying that view from your own rectal orifice.

 

[Lalli]

yeh like i really enjoy reading what a stuck up ex soldier has to say yeh right, your rude and arrogant and simply to old to see what's happening in the younger generation and how hard it is to listen to someone claim your brethrens are the scum of the earth. run along and play with your make up now my dear, im done here

 

[Hawkeye]

Why because we called you out on not being able to think for yourself?

Or because you are upset that the "ex soldier" has the ability to look in a situation by herself and form her own opinion and have the ability to form it and defend it?

And as for bretherens being the scum of the earth-let me gently remind you some of yours who like to blow up innocent women, children and other people they too are the scum of the earth.

 

[Shimmer]

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Originally Posted by Lalli yeh like i really enjoy reading what a stuck up ex soldier has to say yeh right, your rude and arrogant and simply to old to see what's happening in the younger generation and how hard it is to listen to someone claim your brethrens are the scum of the earth. run along and play with your make up now my dear, im done here

You say exsoldier like it's an insult.
My dear I am proud of my service.
I am proud of my combat boots and my pins and my patches. I'm proud of the time I spent as a soldier. You can't insult me in that manner.
You say I'm stuck up? No, I just don't like immature children. My six year old has a more mature and coherent manner of converse than you have shown thus far in this thread.
Your brethren ARE the scum of the earth. ANYone who hides behind civilians to perpetuate violence are scum. Anyone who uses their religion, and yes, they ARE muslim, as a means for violence ARE the scum of the earth.
If you're really done here, I can only thank God, as the rest of the thread will (I hope) be comprised of people with diverse points of view, yet willing and intelligent enough to question their views when presented with well laid out evidence to the contrary, and then turn around and provide solid, concrete evidence to substantiate the points of view instead of huffing off.

 

[Hawkeye]

also scum of the earth: Those who love to behead people and then put it on TV!

 

[NtheSticks]

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Originally Posted by Lalli your comments about the WTC confuse me. bodies were badly burnt, people were killed, evidence destryoed yet a passport was found in the rubble in perfect condition.?? im sure there was a press conference on tele showing this ofcourse i rely on media coverage and ive heard from you all both sides of the stories and they just dont add up, why would the media have so much hate towards such a "great" nation

why would the media have so much hate towards a "great" nation displays how very little you understand how much the media has changed and how much it is a tool.

In fact, as I'm reading this whole thing, I'm seeing an immature individual who wants to claim things but doesn't want to grant what she says is a right.

No, not all muslims are terrorists. No, not all troops - any branch - are saints.

No, WTC bombing back in the 90's didn't get responded to appropriately.

But just as the papers in a 'fire proof safe' can be reduced to ash, and a simple cardboard box's contents simply charred around the edges, stuff happens.

I'd say you need to be getting information from more sources than the telly, darlin'

 

[Shimmer]

Indeed, however when presented with certain links of information, it's been refused. :/

 

[Hawkeye]

Thinking and doing your homework on stuff is hard

 

[Dizzy]

You keep harping on Shimmer's comment, which obviously insulted you, yet you show absolutely no regard for the comments that have insulted everyone else. You came here looking for answers to "questions" that were never truly defined yet were responded to anyway, and when you didn't like those answers you threw an internet temper tantrum. Even when certain memebers were offering you non-aggressive views on this topic you didn't truly acknowledge them because their answers weren't what you wanted to hear. You bring up the video, which is the exact video that is debunked in the link that Simmer posted which leads me to believe that you did not read the link or fully understand it. And not only has it been difficult to understand your posts, but you continue to still speak ill of America with your "supposed greatest nation" comments. This is no longer a debate, this is you acting juvenile.

Next time you claim to do something in the name of education, learn something from it. There's no point in trying to goat people into saying what you want to support your views- that's not for education.

 

[Shimmer]

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Originally Posted by Lalli all im after is simple facts. the documentry is still floating around. loads of people have questioned the state of your so called great nation. if you're going to slate everything i say and be rude to me i have no intentions of speaking to you. you need to get your head back out of your ass

Of course the documentary is still floating around, it's on the internet, it will NEVER go away.
another link with multiple resources for debunking loose change, all in one tidy spot for you to see and check in on. I'm sure you'll not check it out or question loose change or any of your other sources after this either.