MAC Divine Night Collection (October 17, 2013)

AkeshialuvsMAC

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:flower:  Yeah , check it out...cause if u own myth or hue ..its gonna look like that on. I love creme cup , so i thought that flair f..l/s was gonna be an intense creme cup..nope! ...just a revamped myth...in light form....plus i never bother with brush sets...i got most macs full size main brushes and sigma brushes...they are really good. sigma.com :) MAC just be gettin over on this stuff sometimes....my hubby say.." Hell..all that stuff be lookin the same once its on your lips and face....you dont look no different than last month or yesterday girl" LOL! ..he say: women be lookin no different and just wasting money...plus YOU know makeup gets old?...mascara- ONLY 3mths , lipstick -3-4 YRS, Eyeshadows- 2-4 yrs....foundation and blush - 3 YRS....so really u wanna throw out you makeup stash after 4-5 yrs...it builds bacteria we cannot see....and it can create chemical reactions to your eyes and skin...ppl have all this makeup...throw it out after a while...so im trying to not buy so much and use what i have. just saying:) :flower:
I agree!
 

PixieDancer

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Sorry that my brows (and hair) look like shit LOL. I just wanted to put up a picture of me finally wearing "You've Got It" lipstick. I only put on a light layer of it so, with my lips not being very pigmented, it almost looks like I'm just wearing a light gold gloss. I'll also add that my lighting makes it look a lot less gold than it is. In person there's a stronger gold frost than what you see in the below pictures. Nothing unwearable though (for me anyway). I can't help anyone with my foundation shade because I never looked into MAC foundations. All I can say is that I'm on the fair/light side and that I can pull off both warm and cool colors, but I think my complexion leans warm.





I should layer more on next time, the way I usually do with my lipsticks.
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It looks really simple and pretty on you. For more drama try layering it over a darker color like some of the other ladies are doing! Then it's even more versatile! I hope I don't have to go back for this w you girls!!

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Since he likes to play up her eyes more, I'd suggest one of the eye palettes (i like the cool set the best) or one of the eye bags (violet-would go well with the cool set if you want to do two sets!)
As long as a powder hasn't had water introduced into it, it won't go bad. Ever. So a 2-3yr lifespan in powders is incorrect. If that was true my entire makeup stash would be worthless right now. If it's you're own product you're just using yourself, you don't need to do anything to it to "prolong" the life of it. If you're using it on other people, just wiping the surface with a tissue is enough to sanitize it as powder does not harbour bacteria.

DO NOT spray them with alcohol. This can ruin them.
Even so, it's against forum policy to do so in any thread other than the Clearance Bin.
I disinfect my makeup with Beauty So Clean, especially ones I've gotten in a swap or bought previously used. That's what it's made for right? And I was told BSC is basically alcohol in a glorified concoction. I was turned onto the product by Wayne Goss. So I'm just trying to confirm what you're saying.... are you saying using Beauty So Clean will ruin my makeup and make it go bad? I use BSC for powders, creams, lipsticks, everything. I'm OCD about cleanliness and germs. I can't imagine they could sell such a popular product to so many trusted MUA's if it was going to ruin their makeup rather than extend it's life by keeping it sanitary.... I'm just asking???
 

liba

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Thanks a lot! I think I came across that site once, but completely forgot about it. Do you know how long it would be before they receive the sets that don't sell and take them apart?

I have done laser hair removal on my upper lips and IPL on my underarms. I can tell you, laser hair removal made me cry from the extreme heat (I don't know if it's the technician who really sucks ass or if all laser hair removal methods are that much torture). After 4 sessions, I saw no effect and gave up. It wasn't worth it sitting there for 5 minutes feeling like someone is burning the skin off my face. Never again. On the other hand, IPL is painless and results are instantaneous - the hair falls out a few days after the first session and the regrowth is already very fine and soft. It's been 7 years since I first did IPL (took about 10 sessions over a year and a half or so to fully eradicate) and now I can go all year without shaving at all - there's hardly any hair and even if there is, it's so fine that only I can see it. When I go in for my yearly "maintenance", sometimes the doctor says it's not even necessary.
Laser hair removal definitely can hurt pretty bad, depending on the area of the body. The underarms and upper lip are supposed to be the most sensitive of all areas. You need to make sure you are in the middle of your menstrual cycle when you get it done, for the least pain sensitivity. There are numbing creams they can give you a prescription for in advance you can put on an hour before your treatment. Also, the technician's ability helps a lot - the last time I had it done, I had a great gal, who was extremely experienced and she had a fantastic trick of putting an ice pack on a spot opposite to the spot she was going to zap. It tricks your skin into not focussing as much on the heat plus it sort of numbs the next area to be worked on a little too. It worked so well and I had less discomfort than I'd ever had before - she was great. I did find the IPL for my face somewhat painful too, but it wasn't on the most sensitive part of my face, so that was good. The skin where it was done is still sometimes a little sensitive around that time of the month - it's only been less than two months since I had it done, though.

Technology is great!
 

erine1881

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Ahhhhhhh SINGER!!! Now you've done it! You KNOW how much I love Venus! Is that layered w YGI lipstick OR CSG? I'm going to pair it w YGI CSG... so I hope that's what you did or you just enabled ANOTHER lippie purchase!! HeeHee Thanks for the suggestion! Loving Venus MORE, is it possible!? You look SOOOOO lovely! WOW! It looks really simple and pretty on you. For more drama try layering it over a darker color like some of the other ladies are doing! Then it's even more versatile! I hope I don't have to go back for this w you girls!!
BSC is Ethanol Alcohol with a few other ingredients to make it smell good and make people buy it. That's all. Look at it this way. How did Sigma get people to buy a $40 silicone oven mitt to clean their makeup brushes? People will spend money on stupid shit they don't need to! Essentially you can use alcohol sprayed on powder products, but ONLY 99% alcohol. Anything other than 99% contains water, and with promote bacteria growth. However, if your powders aren't exposed to water in the first place, there's no need to use alcohol to sanitize them with alcohol. Removing the top layer of powder is enough to safely sanitize them. However, if the powder has ever come in contact in with water, MM, fix+, etc, even 99% alcohol isn't gonna be able to save it, and you risk serious injury to anyone that product is being used on. It's as simple as that.
 

charleyscreams

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lol, first I get a msf from mac where the powder itself isn't centered (where there's an edge between the powder and the compact, not all the way touching as it's supposed to, minor things like that annoy me haha) and then I get my other msf from nordstroms where the powder isn't lining up the way it's suppposed to, the small part isn't centered but shifted to the side. Can't really explain it well but the point is that my msf's are flawed!

Oh well, they're really prettyyyyy.
 

PixieDancer

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It's as simple as that.
I understand that gimmicky products are sold everyday. I also understand that Beauty So Clean is glorified alcohol. I did acknowledge that fact in my original post. However, gimmicky or not, it DOES work and is 100% safe to use to disinfect makeup. That's not to say that you HAVE to use it if you don't want, but to say "DO NOT spray them with alcohol. This can ruin them." is also not 100% accurate. I would hate to think that someone on here may start to worry that they've ruined their makeup by disinfecting with 99% alcohol or Beauty So Clean because of such a statement. The alcohol content in BSC is 100% safe to use to disinfect your makeup. If someone feels better for buying BSC to disinfect their makeup then that's ok and will not ruin their makeup. Just like most of us owning 100+ lipsticks may seem excessive to some, but to me is completely normal and fine. It's ok to say you don't NEED this item to clean your makeup. I just don't want people to feel they've ruined their makeup by using said products that are perfectly fine to use. Just wanted to clarify for those concerned.
I feel pretty good about my sanitized stash of makeup and my Sigma cleaning mitt that helps me clean my brushes in a fraction of the time! HeeHee
 

brittbby

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I understand that gimmicky products are sold everyday. I also understand that Beauty So Clean is glorified alcohol. I did acknowledge that fact in my original post. However, gimmicky or not, it DOES work and is 100% safe to use to disinfect makeup. That's not to say that you HAVE to use it if you don't want, but to say "[COLOR=181818]DO NOT spray them with alcohol. This can ruin them." is also not 100% accurate. I would hate to think that someone on here may start to worry that they've ruined their makeup by disinfecting with 99% alcohol or Beauty So Clean because of such a statement. The alcohol content in BSC is 100% safe to use to disinfect your makeup. If someone feels better for buying BSC to disinfect their makeup then that's ok and will not ruin their makeup. Just like most of us owning 100+ lipsticks may seem excessive to some, but to me is completely normal and fine. It's ok to say you don't NEED this item to clean your makeup. I just don't want people to feel they've ruined their makeup by using said products that are perfectly fine to use. Just wanted to clarify for those concerned.[/COLOR] [COLOR=181818]I feel pretty good about my sanitized stash of makeup and my Sigma cleaning mitt that helps me clean my brushes in a fraction of the time! HeeHee[/COLOR]
I've actually wanted to try that sigma mitt. Sometime when I'm cleaning my brushes, my hand gets prune-ish and it would be nice for that not to happen lol!
 

PixieDancer

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I've actually wanted to try that sigma mitt. Sometime when I'm cleaning my brushes, my hand gets prune-ish and it would be nice for that not to happen lol!
It's actually pretty darn cool! Do you "need" it to clean your brushes, no. BUT it does make it much easier. And anything that makes my life easier is good to me! I can clean twice as many brushes in the same time... and GIRLLLL.... I can dirty a large quantity of brushes and HAVE to wash them with my damn OCD!
P.S. The prune-ish hands bothered me too. It's like using rubber gloves to wash dishes... it definitely helps!
 

rena10

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I turn over my mascara religiously and have no trouble finishing primer and foundation in a reasonable time period, but I'm comfortable keeping powder products longer than 2-3 years. I use a clean brush each time and don't introduce moisture to them (either water or Fix +) so I don't think there's the same risk of bacteria as there is with cream products.

I used up a couple of blush over the better part of a decade and had no ill effects. I'd have been more concerned if I used filthy brushes. I won't be tossing my MAC e/s palettes either - no way I'll get through 40 odd colours in 2 years! Erinn, should I perhaps be sanitizing them in some way to lengthen the life? Spritzing with alcohol? I don't currently do anything special with them.

I've bought virtually all of my makeup within the last 2 years so it's pretty new. I keep my few backup lippies and foundation I'm not using in the fridge to lengthen their lifespan.
yeah true
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..AND i know powder foundation can last longer, i was talkin about liquid makeup mostly...but yeah thats why i said ..in ALL..AFTER 5 YRS..start tossin certain stuff...plus it depends when you bought it, how much u use etc.. cause even eyeshadows can last a couple of yrs...but i FIND..that if they start getting crumbly and have a strong odor starting ..its time to throw it away..THATS ..why i dont wanna buy too much...cause after 5 yrs, i want new shyt anyway....oh and When i have a cold...i never use my lipsticks or lipglosses until my cold goes away,,cause u can reinfect yourself....very easy...i went to medical school...so i know about bacteria....thats why some ppl get reactions to their makeup...CAUSE ITS OLD! :) thanks :) LOL
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erine1881

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I understand that gimmicky products are sold everyday. I also understand that Beauty So Clean is glorified alcohol. I did acknowledge that fact in my original post. However, gimmicky or not, it DOES work and is 100% safe to use to disinfect makeup. That's not to say that you HAVE to use it if you don't want, but to say "[COLOR=181818]DO NOT spray them with alcohol. This can ruin them." is also not 100% accurate. I would hate to think that someone on here may start to worry that they've ruined their makeup by disinfecting with 99% alcohol or Beauty So Clean because of such a statement. The alcohol content in BSC is 100% safe to use to disinfect your makeup. If someone feels better for buying BSC to disinfect their makeup then that's ok and will not ruin their makeup. Just like most of us owning 100+ lipsticks may seem excessive to some, but to me is completely normal and fine. It's ok to say you don't NEED this item to clean your makeup. I just don't want people to feel they've ruined their makeup by using said products that are perfectly fine to use. Just wanted to clarify for those concerned.[/COLOR] [COLOR=181818]I feel pretty good about my sanitized stash of makeup and my Sigma cleaning mitt that helps me clean my brushes in a fraction of the time! HeeHee[/COLOR]
Sorry, i should have specified and said don't use anything other than 99% alcohol. The problem with people using alcohol to sanitize their powders is that the majority of people have either 70% or 91% alcohol in their homes, and this is what they'll use. This is what will ruin their powders. Why risk it when a tissue, papertowel, toilet paper is all you need and it's just as safe? But that's also why i said it CAN ruin them. Using the wrong type of alcohol CAN ruin them. I didn't say WILL. I chose my words appropriately.
 

Audrey C

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Yup. Like I've mentioned before, i don't use any of the makeup in my kit on myself, and non of my personal stuff on clients, but once in a blue moon, if a shoot or event calls for a colour that i have in my own personal stash, just for that one time i will use my own product like a shadow or blush, and just a quick swipe with a tissue on the surface is all it takes to properly sanitize it (as i use no powders wet, ever! I know what starts to fester under the surface when you do use it wet
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Is that true even for baked products? I have used a damp angled brush in Stolen Moment EDES so I can use it as liner. It's one of my favourites - hope I haven't turned it into a germ-fest. I thought those were safe to get wet.
 

PixieDancer

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But that's also why i said it CAN ruin them. Using the wrong type of alcohol CAN ruin them. I didn't say WILL. I chose my words appropriately.
As did I. I was just trying to help others not misinterpret and panic. Hence, my response.

It's kind of like saying "people will spend money on stupid shit" referring to the Sigma mitt. I'm fine with you thinking it's stupid. But I find it useful. And phrasing it that way can make people misunderstand your intention.

I was simply trying to help clarify as I am very particular about cleaning my makeup items. And at first I your post even made me nervous until I realized what I was using was perfectly fine and not "stupid shit" at all to me.

So, Beauty So Clean and 99% alcohol is fine to clean your makeup ladies and gents. HTH
 
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pockykami

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To be really technical, a good dermatologist uses totally different equipment for hair removal than for skin treatments - you need a system designed specifically for hair if you want to see fast and effective results. All this equipment is extremely expensive, I'd guess and I have heard of clinics that just tell their patients that one machine does it all. IT DOES NOT. So if you are getting a consultation from a doctor, a major question you have to ask is whether they are using different equipment for hair and skin. It's nice that your parents are willing to treat you to expensive cosmetic procedures, but I went through that when I was younger too - my mother had had electrolysis done for hair removal so she pushed me to do it, even though I felt I really didn't need it at all. It was painful, time consuming and it wound up enlarging my pores. I was just being pushed into something unnecessary. The modern treatment techniques out there are so much better, but honestly I will have to say that the IPL for my skin was not something to just go into lightly - your skin seriously needs to do some healing afterwards and you have to be extremely careful to stay out of the sun and religiously use sunscreen for the healing process - if you don't, you could wind up damaging your skin even more than before you had the IPL. So, it really has to be something you personally feel you need, not what your parents think. If there are genetic factors involved, there is a limit to what any procedure can do. A responsible doctor discusses your potential to be a good candidate for procedures like this - some skin types and skin tones really do much much better with any type of laser or pulsed light than others (ESPECIALLY for hair removal, but also for skin) and also, some people have more tendency to hyper pigmentation after laser treatments. That happened once to me years ago with laser hair removal and it took years for it to fade - I was not happy about it.  The equipment is better now, at least, but before we did the IPL, I raised all of these issues with my doctor so that we decided on just the spot treatment as a test and he also kept the settings very moderate, to do everything possible to avoid the hyper pigmentation side effect.  As I was saying above - you need to find a doctor that uses equipment specifically for hair removal if you're going to do laser hair removal. You have to question them carefully to get a straight answer about this. Also you need to see if your doctor is being honest about the relative effectiveness of laser hair removal for you personally. The people who do best with it are light skinned with dark hair. Any other combo has much lesser results, so it's not going to be as worth it, or quite possibly pointless. I had it done on my legs below the knees, underarms and face/neck and all I needed was 2 treatments each and didn't need a follow-up on underarms or face for a few years. I never needed a follow-up on my legs at all - and it's been almost 10 years! The underarms and face do grow back in at a faster rate because they are hormonally related areas. This is what I call excellent results and as my doctor is a dermatologist who has a practice that is heavily focused on medical dermatology, as opposed to mostly cosmetic, I felt he is very careful, conservative in his suggestions and understood that the the right equipment was imperative and didn't skimp on equipping his practice with the right machines. Five or six years ago I complained about that dark spot to him and he just laughed me off and told me not to worry about it, hehe. Now, he felt I was old enough that it was valid to go through IPL for it, but he would not do a full face treatment on me to start with, just the spot removal, to make sure there wouldn't be any problems and also because I could tell he felt my skin didn't need him to bring out the big guns yet, so to speak. I'm glad I didn't do the full face, even though I had great results, because it does leave your skin feeling sensitive in a hard to describe way and is a serious procedure not to be taken lightly. I will probably do it eventually, but I can certainly wait a few more years. Laser hair removal definitely can hurt pretty bad, depending on the area of the body. The underarms and upper lip are supposed to be the most sensitive of all areas. You need to make sure you are in the middle of your menstrual cycle when you get it done, for the least pain sensitivity. There are numbing creams they can give you a prescription for in advance you can put on an hour before your treatment. Also, the technician's ability helps a lot - the last time I had it done, I had a great gal, who was extremely experienced and she had a fantastic trick of putting an ice pack on a spot opposite to the spot she was going to zap. It tricks your skin into not focussing as much on the heat plus it sort of numbs the next area to be worked on a little too. It worked so well and I had less discomfort than I'd ever had before - she was great. I did find the IPL for my face somewhat painful too, but it wasn't on the most sensitive part of my face, so that was good. The skin where it was done is still sometimes a little sensitive around that time of the month - it's only been less than two months since I had it done, though. Technology is great!
I think you were really lucky to find a laser hair removal technician who was reliable and honest. From the very basic research I've done most are very very sleazy because it is so lucrative and requires little training. I hope to find someone in the next five years or so, but I'm not too hopeful. It's good to know the it can sometimes only require a few treatments, because many places offer packages and no refunds. I'll keep that in mind for the future.
 
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pockykami

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I've actually wanted to try that sigma mitt. Sometime when I'm cleaning my brushes, my hand gets prune-ish and it would be nice for that not to happen lol!
Pet supply stores sell grooved gloves that are very similar. Worth a try. Plus more money to spend on makeup!!
 

Audrey C

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As I was saying above - you need to find a doctor that uses equipment specifically for hair removal if you're going to do laser hair removal. You have to question them carefully to get a straight answer about this. Also you need to see if your doctor is being honest about the relative effectiveness of laser hair removal for you personally. The people who do best with it are light skinned with dark hair. Any other combo has much lesser results, so it's not going to be as worth it, or quite possibly pointless.

Laser hair removal definitely can hurt pretty bad, depending on the area of the body. The underarms and upper lip are supposed to be the most sensitive of all areas.

Technology is great!
I'm reasonably light skinned (definitely still NC20 under the arms) and I have medium brown hair. I was a good candidate and it did work - it just didn't last. That was a solid 10 years ago though, so I'm not surprised. It definitely was uncomfortable - I was told to bring bags of frozen peas with me to place under each arm and I was glad I did. It gets plenty hot. Just not worth the pain/cost to maintain when shaving is the work of a few seconds.
 
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