MAC - Rodarte Discussion

[Boasorte]

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Originally Posted by laylalovesmac they should be donating the profits from this collection to some kind of program or charity. like a Viva Glam thing. If that were the case, I'd buy up the whole thing. I'm pretty close to the border and I see people who are affected and hurt by the issues in Juarez. Seriously, I would even be willing to skip VV if this was for donation.

There are ways to donate without buying this collection.

Not saying you should boycott, but just giving you some information

I just think some of the names are really tacky and offensive.
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Originally Posted by LittleMaryJane I like the model in the promo pic. Ha. Not that I'd walk around like that... I don't really know how I feel about this collection as far as appropriateness goes but I'm still interested in a couple of the products. After seeing that photo, the bp looks nice... And I don't own any bps.

The model looks dead, girl!

IDK IDK the MES above looks like blood. Maybe it's my overactive imagination. But the names on some of these things are not appropiateness.

 

[LittleMaryJane]

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Originally Posted by MsWestchesterNY The model looks dead, girl! IDK IDK the MES above looks like blood. Maybe it's my overactive imagination. But the names on some of these things are not appropiateness.

She does but I like it! I like it for a runway show or something--not for your everyday work look or anything

I could imagine people's faces if I showed up like that to work

I'm the only one who wears makeup anyway let alone THAT crazy ass look haha

 

[sss215]

I am just not feeling this. Of all the things Rodarte has done, MAC picked this. WHY? I mean I can tell they are using Rodarte's F/W collection and this line is an F/W line, but damn. Its heavy. I give it to them for promoting awareness. I never heard about any of this until now. The media is always harping on celebrity stories and bs, but never on serious issues like this. but that's a whole other story.

The topic of Rodarte's inspiration is so heavy to me. Very thought provoking and very sad; and I really haven't done that much research on the subject. The Rodarte girls could have celebrated their heritage with MAC in a totally different way. I mean they named a product called "quinceanera" so why is the rest so gloomy? I know, the fashion collection was too, but its really an ill move. They need to change the promo pic too. Its too murky, even for MAC. She is scary.

The nytimes articles says the line is inspired by Mexico's colors and culture. What? That sheer stuff does not remind me of that. Its reminds me of those dark and gloomy scary runway models we see in lines every 10 years or so. It doesn't remind me of the 90's either. People were rocking dark lips then.

I can't wait for MAC's statement if they choose to give one.

 

[User38]

I don't like the concept of this collection, and I am not enthused about any of the products.. so, this will be a total skip for me

 

[Dreamingeagle24]

wow, after the pics i think i want everything except pigments. I just don't use pigments. the description of the white lipstick doesn't sound good, but the pic is really pretty.

 

[InspiredBlue]

This just in: This collection will not be available in Sweden.

The MA's were told this at update yesterday. I think that might suggest bad news for some other European countries as well.

 

[Rinstar]

I like the promo pic. I was in a shoot where we were ghost brides and our make-up was a lot like that. It was a cool shoot. The model's dress is gorgeous also.

I didn't read a lot of the stuff about the names yet, but I'm not the one who named the products. It was probably in bad taste for MAC, but that's not going to prevent me from buying both MES. They are unbelievably gorgeous.

 

[sss215]

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Originally Posted by InspiredBlue This just in: This collection will not be available in Sweden. The MA's were told this at update yesterday. I think that might suggest bad news for some other European countries as well.

Do you know why? Is it because of the controversy?

 

[aeroerin]

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Originally Posted by laylalovesmac they should be donating the profits from this collection to some kind of program or charity. like a Viva Glam thing. If that were the case, I'd buy up the whole thing. I'm pretty close to the border and I see people who are affected and hurt by the issues in Juarez. Seriously, I would even be willing to skip VV if this was for donation.

I can't believe I didn't hear about this collection and its "inspiration" much, much earlier than I did. I'm personally infuriated with MAC and Rodarte right now, and I'm officially protesting MAC until they release a statement that they're donating profits from this collection to change things in Juarez and similar areas in Mexico. I'm an avid makeup lover, but I'm also a fierce feminist and human rights activist, and seeing companies profit from such atrocities in this manner is absolutely revolting. If they use this collaboration to raise awareness about the rapes and murders occurring in Juarez, then I will drop my boycott. If they refuse to donate their profits (which, considering their financial success this past year, would be horrible to refuse), then I'm sorry to say that I will be leaving MAC forever.

Some of you may see this as extreme, but I cannot sit by and remain idle while MAC and Rodarte profit from this blatant exploitation.

 

[LMD84]

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Originally Posted by InspiredBlue This just in: This collection will not be available in Sweden. The MA's were told this at update yesterday. I think that might suggest bad news for some other European countries as well.

maybe we won't get it in the uk either then

ah wells i won't be too borthered. the promo image freaks me out.

 

[InspiredBlue]

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Originally Posted by sss215 Do you know why? Is it because of the controversy?

Oh, no, not all. No one would even get that here.

It's just because they probably don't think the designer is well known enough to attract buyers. That happens every now and then to us in smaller markets.

 

[sungelly87]

I can see why this collection is controversial but I guess I still don't understand the outrage and the boycotting.

MAC took inspiration from Rodarte's Fall 2010 collection, which was inspired by their trip to Mexico and Juarez. They are designers and artists and take inspiration from a variety of things. Rodarte has always been an "edgy" brand. That's like saying painters can't paint depictions of war or can't make any political commentary.
Props to Rodarte and MAC for even attempting to start a conversation about this situation. I didn't even hear anything about it, and even if I did, it didn't even register in my mind.

So yes, in a way, MAC and Rodarte is profiting from a tragedy. And yes it's just easy to donate to a fund, but the thing is, just how many people are willing to do that? I am sure there are a lot of activists out there trying to draw attention to this situation, but the average person still isn't aware. Well now we know, and now we're talking about it.

Just take it as it is, boycott it or haul from it. I am sure that MAC will have no problems selling these items as they look gorgeous.

And as far as not having any colorful or bright patterns from mexican theme, if you look at the actual Rodarte Fall 2010 collection, they do have that. But most of the clothes is very ethereal, sorta a ghost town vibe, which I am sure is supposed to draw attention to the haunting aspects of the situation/place.

I will definitely be purchasing Rose State l/s and Badlands pigment! Can't wait to see swatches.

 

[InspiredBlue]

I would have liked them to go all the way with it, if the intention was to draw attention to the problem.

But I generally don't take political statements from people that are famous for completely unrelated reasons too seriously.

 

[sungelly87]

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Originally Posted by InspiredBlue I would have liked them to go all the way with it, if the intention was to draw attention to the problem. But I generally don't take political statements from people that are famous for completely unrelated reasons too seriously.

lol. Reminds of ML and the Oil Spill how people thought MAC should donate part of the profits to that effort. And did they? NO. I don't think they are going to with this collection either. But that's okay with me, I guess I just believe that a company's main purpose is to make profits. As far as humanitarian efforts go, it's up to yourself. What about us taking it all the way and say that we will donate to the cause? People are not stepping up and saying that either...just saying...

 

[InspiredBlue]

Let's just say you are not going to find me arguing against Milton Friedman any time soon.

 

[LittleMaryJane]

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Originally Posted by sungelly87 Props to Rodarte and MAC for even attempting to start a conversation about this situation. I didn't even hear anything about it, and even if I did, it didn't even register in my mind. So yes, in a way, MAC and Rodarte is profiting from a tragedy. And yes it's just easy to donate to a fund, but the thing is, just how many people are willing to do that? I am sure there are a lot of activists out there trying to draw attention to this situation, but the average person still isn't aware. Well now we know, and now we're talking about it.

I agree. I, for one, didn't know anything about this until this collection. I think it is getting it out there. Has MAC said anything about why they chose to do this collection? If they are trying to get the word out, I can respect that.

However, if someone wants to boycott, I can understand why. I do think it is in poor taste not to donate any of the money (if that's the case).

 

[aeroerin]

Apathy kills, and no makeup or beauty product is worth such exploitation. I work through my Women's Studies department to help alleviate such situations, and I'll definitely work through that and Feminist Students United at my school to push for more active efforts in Mexico.

MAC has already proved through their Viva Glam campaign that they are willing to sacrifice profits AND costs to alleviate suffering. They have proved that they are not profit-only. I'm shocked that they would not already offer to donate in the exact same manner with this collection.

 

[LMD84]

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Originally Posted by aeroerin Apathy kills, and no makeup or beauty product is worth such exploitation. I work through my Women's Studies department to help alleviate such situations, and I'll definitely work through that and Feminist Students United at my school to push for more active efforts in Mexico. MAC has already proved through their Viva Glam campaign that they are willing to sacrifice profits AND costs to alleviate suffering. They have proved that they are not profit-only. I'm shocked that they would not already offer to donate in the exact same manner with this collection.

 

[sss215]

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Originally Posted by sungelly87 I can see why this collection is controversial but I guess I still don't understand the outrage and the boycotting. MAC took inspiration from Rodarte's Fall 2010 collection, which was inspired by their trip to Mexico and Juarez. They are designers and artists and take inspiration from a variety of things. Rodarte has always been an "edgy" brand. That's like saying painters can't paint depictions of war or can't make any political commentary. Props to Rodarte and MAC for even attempting to start a conversation about this situation. I didn't even hear anything about it, and even if I did, it didn't even register in my mind. So yes, in a way, MAC and Rodarte is profiting from a tragedy. And yes it's just easy to donate to a fund, but the thing is, just how many people are willing to do that? I am sure there are a lot of activists out there trying to draw attention to this situation, but the average person still isn't aware. Well now we know, and now we're talking about it. Just take it as it is, boycott it or haul from it. I am sure that MAC will have no problems selling these items as they look gorgeous. And as far as not having any colorful or bright patterns from mexican theme, if you look at the actual Rodarte Fall 2010 collection, they do have that. But most of the clothes is very ethereal, sorta a ghost town vibe, which I am sure is supposed to draw attention to the haunting aspects of the situation/place. I will definitely be purchasing Rose State l/s and Badlands pigment! Can't wait to see swatches.

the article is talking about the MAC collection, not Rodarte's

you're right, it is art. its awareness. but i don't care. Like I said before, Rodarte has lots of things MAC could have pulled from. Why this? I'm just saying.

As far as the Marine life BP tie in. That's totally different. BP is not marketing to women to people of all races. MAC is. That is why this is an issue. I can't even get into it anymore. Good that people can make an informed decision now.

 

[LittleMaryJane]

Ah well this answers my question. Sorta. Taken from Temptalia:

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We understand that product names in the M·A·C Rodarte collection have offended some of our consumers and fans. This was never our intent and we are very sorry. We are listening carefully to the comments posted and are grateful to those of you who have brought your concerns to the forefront of our attention. M·A·C will give a portion of the proceeds from the M·A·C Rodarte collection to help those in need in Juarez. We are diligently investigating the best way to do this. Please be assured that we will keep you posted on the details regarding our efforts.