The war in Iraq (split from WHO is Jesus?)

[Dizzy]

The WTC was built to withstand anything in the terms of natural disasters- not two commercial planes with enough fuel to fly nonstop across the US. Now take into account that the first fires started when the planes hit the buildings. Then add into it the amount of electricity that was in that building (I don't know if you are aware, but there used to be a train station under the WTC that was still in use until that day). Now as the floors are collapsing, they're pulling live wires since the power wasn't cut until well after (when the FDNY was first responding the power was still on). Electrical fires in NY are horrible because of the narrow hallways and high builidngs, now add that to the hundreds of gallons of fuel in TWO planes and what do you have? Massive explosions. Really- it's logical. I'm telling you look this stuff up, these conspiracy theroies have already been debunked a long time ago.

 

[Shimmer]

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Originally Posted by Lalli i dont need to educate myself, what you need to do is stop living the american dream and see that EVERYONE has flaws,

"I don't need to educate myself"

Yeah. You do.
Everytime you hit post, it shows, more and more and more.

 

[Shimmer]

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Originally Posted by Dizzy The WTC was built to withstand anything in the terms of natural disasters- not two commercial planes with enough fuel to fly nonstop across the US. Now take into account that the first fires started when the planes hit the buildings. Then add into it the amount of electricity that was in that building (I don't know if you are aware, but there used to be a train station under the WTC that was still in use until that day). Now as the floors are collapsing, they're pulling live wires since the power wasn't cut until well after (when the FDNY was first responding the power was still on). Electrical fires in NY are horrible because of the narrow hallways and high builidngs, now add that to the hundreds of gallons of fuel in TWO planes and what do you have? Massive explosions. Really- it's logical. I'm telling you look this stuff up, these conspiracy theroies have already been debunked a long time ago.

Check out that link I posted, it's the most well researched debunking I've ever found.

 

[Dizzy]

There were NOT many calls made from these planes- most of the 911 calls were made by people who watched the planes fly into the WTC and the pentagon.

 

[Dizzy]

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Originally Posted by shimmer Check out that link I posted, it's the most well researched debunking I've ever found.

That was actually one of the links I was looking for, lol.

 

[Lalli]

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Originally Posted by shimmer "I don't need to educate myself" Yeah. You do. Everytime you hit post, it shows, more and more and more.

and everytime you post you just remind me off the word annoying

 

[pumpkincat210]

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Originally Posted by Lalli how do you explain a building which is build to withstand anything tumbled downwards, building was on fire.. not ALL of it but those floors which were hit by the plane, so how did it come flying down, dont say the weight of the plane bought it down, why were explosions seen coming out of windows, theres alot of things which you cnt explain and neither can i, by simply witnessing it doesnt mean you know it all, maybe as well as me, you may also need to do some more research

Haha, what are you nuts? A big airplane.. 747 went into the buildings...the planes had just taken off and were full of combustible JET FUEL. The towers were full of things that would burn.. no amount of water sprinklers was going to save them at that point, they were built in the 70's, for god's sake.

 

[Lalli]

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Originally Posted by pumpkincat210 Haha, what are you nuts? A big airplane.. 747 went into the buildings...the planes had just taken off and were full of combustible JET FUEL. The towers were full of things that would burn.. no amount of water sprinklers was going to save them at that point, they were built in the 70's, for god's sake.

explains the fires! doesnt explain the force which brought them down, and no im not nuts im just looking for explanations

 

[Shimmer]

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Originally Posted by Lalli and everytime you post you just remind me off the word annoying

Are you proud of your ignorance of the subjects you're speaking of?
Are you proud of the fact that you're talking about something and don't really know what you're talking about, and that you, when offered tools to educate yourself, don't take advantage of said opportunities?

 

[Shimmer]

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Originally Posted by Lalli explains the fires! doesnt explain the force which brought them down, and no im not nuts im just looking for explanations

No you're not.

If you were, you'd take the time to click the link I gave you and educate yourself.

 

[Shimmer]

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Originally Posted by Dizzy That was actually one of the links I was looking for, lol.

I have it bookmarked.

 

[Lalli]

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Originally Posted by shimmer Are you proud of your ignorance of the subjects you're speaking of? Are you proud of the fact that you're talking about something and don't really know what you're talking about, and that you, when offered tools to educate yourself, don't take advantage of said opportunities?

I have read those articles, do you really expect me to belive stuff like that when there is more conspiracies flying around. who knows what the truth is

 

[Lalli]

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Originally Posted by shimmer Are you proud of your ignorance of the subjects you're speaking of? Are you proud of the fact that you're talking about something and don't really know what you're talking about, and that you, when offered tools to educate yourself, don't take advantage of said opportunities?

im not ignorant, your comments come accross as rude and ignorant, you dont seem to respect any ones views, i have nothing to say to YOU

 

[Dizzy]

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Originally Posted by Lalli i dont need to educate myself, what you need to do is stop living the american dream and see that EVERYONE has flaws,

And once again you bring up comments that are completely unrelated yet insulting anyway. The American Dream has NOTHING to do with perfection or flaws; it's the faith that the US citizens have that anyone can get a better life through hard work, courage and determination. You DO need to educate yourself- you're grasping for straws now and you're resorting to insulting America. That's not a debate, that's evidence of someone who hasn't done their homework.

 

[Shimmer]

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Originally Posted by Lalli I have read those articles, do you really expect me to belive stuff like that when there is more conspiracies flying around. who knows what the truth is

There are people who believe that if they concentrate hard enough they can shit diamonds too.


When did you read that link? Can you give us a summary of the information provided? Can you argue against any single point listed in that presentation? No?

Didn't think so.

 

[Lalli]

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Originally Posted by shimmer There are people who believe that if they concentrate hard enough they can shit diamonds too. When did you read that link? Can you give us a summary of the information provided? Can you argue against any single point listed in that presentation? No? Didn't think so.

i dont need to justify myself to YOU. im not taking an exam in this that i need to revise it and give you a summary, i could turn around and say its a load of shit but i got better things to do

 

[Shimmer]

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Originally Posted by Lalli im not ignorant, your comments come accross as rude and ignorant, you dont seem to respect any ones views, i have nothing to say to YOU

Rude?
Rude? No, rude is calling a nation of people oil hungry. Rude is insinuating that my brothers myself and my friends and other family have been anything less than honorable in service as soldiers.
Ignorance is refusing, when offered, the opportunity to educate yourself about subjects you claim to want answers to.

 

[pumpkincat210]

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Originally Posted by Lalli i dont need to educate myself, what you need to do is stop living the american dream and see that EVERYONE has flaws,

Living the American dream? I work hard for what I have, my ancestors have worked hard. I deserve every bit of what I have, and that is why America is where it is today. American's are some of the most overworked people in the world. We don't have it so easy either, plenty of people here can't get jobs and are on welfare.
You are living in a modernized country so you are living a "dream" too. Call me from Iraq and then we'll talk about somebody giving up their "dream".

 

[Dizzy]

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Originally Posted by shimmer There are people who believe that if they concentrate hard enough they can shit diamonds too.

So this is totally off topic from the debate, but that comment just made me ROTFLMBO

Thank you for making my day, Shimmer!

 

[Lalli]

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Originally Posted by Dizzy And once again you bring up comments that are completely unrelated yet insulting anyway. The American Dream has NOTHING to do with perfection or flaws; it's the faith that the US citizens have that anyone can get a better life through hard work, courage and determination. You DO need to educate yourself- you're grasping for straws now and you're resorting to insulting America. That's not a debate, that's evidence of someone who hasn't done their homework.

why are you insulted by a comment like american dream? yet you expect me not to be insulted by comments made in here that the scum of the eart are my brethrens, that all muslims are terrorists, grow up,