MAC Divine Night Collection (October 17, 2013)

rena10

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I warned folks that LL may be more like a highlight only for certain skin tones. I do have one idea for you, though…you could try to apply a little bit of it where you want the most color concentration with a slightly damp brush. You'll have to be careful to blend the edges out, but it might help bring out the base color a bit. It might also increase the shimmer too, though. Also, different brushes really change how LL looks on me, so you could try a few you don't normally use for your cheeks to see how it comes out. When it works, it works really beautifully….it's still my favorite item from this collection and I've got quite a few I really love.

It's a surprisingly subdued color! I actually like the old lady aspect of it, but it was a bit of a shocker the first time I tried it on. A gloss like Narcissus or Richly Revered will change it up really nicely for something more direct and dramatic.

I just want to say, personally I knew this collection would have a lot of products that wouldn't be everyone's taste or look good on everyone. That's why I went out of my way to write these detailed reviews. You can count on me! If there's a collection that has pros and cons, 'ole Liba will for sure come right out and break it all down.
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This way you save money and hassle and other people can get their hands on the products - win/win situation!

I'm REALLY please MAC did this collection, because while it's not for everyone, when it's good, it's awesome and unusual - I'd rather they take some risks and do some collections that are kind of specialized! That's the advantage of lots of collections. There have been collections that were just all wrong for me and when they'd come up, I'd be happy I could save some money and then move on! Divine Night strikes me as a collection that's more targeted to older women and their color and texture needs, but with a few things that will be fun and different for the risk taking people of all ages. When some collection for porcelain pale teenagers comes out (and you know it will), I will smile and nod and wish I could pull everything off, and then put my money back in my purse.

(I'm not trying to call you out in particular - just quoting you to be a reference for my comment
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I much prefer layering the MSF colors too, rather than swirling - so many different effects if you do it that way.

I layer this one too, to make sure I have just the right amount of gold. I hope MAC does something similar with just that base color too, because it's just beyond gorgeous on its own!

Looks really cute! That blush you are wearing is PERFECT for it! Plus your happy smile is cheering up my day
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Thanks for that!
yeah true..:) thanks .....but also since my skin tone is carmel tan..i usually wear mostly every color...but these lipsticks were so dupable for me. like flair r l/s and youv'e got it l/s.....flain r lipstick looked just like myth on me and no pink tones either...and the blushes i have exact colors from other brands and collections.....and i am a older woman...im older than 34! lol!
 

rena10

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Anyone actually like their fff lipstick? Its too ashy lookin on me
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....nope i took mine bk to mac...its just a concealer look on me...hell myth looks the same ...so im like what hell i need this for if i got myth?!...and i gotta warm that up...so i took all my stuff bk and only kept private p l/s ....im a grown woman...i dont need my makeup look bk that i wore when i was 20....shyt ..we talkin 17 yrs ago....pale lips...dark brown liner....omg....thats played out...i want sexy grown color....not that teeny bop...look...
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AkeshialuvsMAC

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:agree:  ....nope i took mine bk to mac...its just a concealer look on me...hell myth looks the same ...so im like what hell i need this for if i got myth?!...and i gotta warm that up...so i took all my stuff bk and only kept private p l/s ....im a grown woman...i dont need my makeup look bk that i wore when i was 20....shyt ..we talkin 17 yrs ago....pale lips...dark brown liner....omg....thats played out...i want sexy grown color....not that teeny bop...look...:drama:
lol! I think mac got a lot a lot returns on this collection!! When my fff cg comes i will try it together. If i still dont like it the lipstick is goin bac! I'm almost certain I will be returning my brush set... its just makes no sense!
 

rena10

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What do you guys think of Prepare for Pleasure?? I'm thinking of picking it up!
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its a nice creamy sheen blue red...so if you have some reds..its not really a must have....i liked it but i passed on it...its so dupable....i think its for a woman who just wears reds and needs a replacement for her collection...thats my take on it.:)
 

rena10

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lol! I think mac got a lot a lot returns on this collection!! When my fff cg comes i will try it together. If i still dont like it the lipstick is goin bac! I'm almost certain I will be returning my brush set... its just makes no sense!
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Yeah , check it out...cause if u own myth or hue ..its gonna look like that on. I love creme cup , so i thought that flair f..l/s was gonna be an intense creme cup..nope! ...just a revamped myth...in light form....plus i never bother with brush sets...i got most macs full size main brushes and sigma brushes...they are really good. sigma.com :) MAC just be gettin over on this stuff sometimes....my hubby say.." Hell..all that stuff be lookin the same once its on your lips and face....you dont look no different than last month or yesterday girl" LOL! ..he say: women be lookin no different and just wasting money...plus YOU know makeup gets old?...mascara- ONLY 3mths , lipstick -3-4 YRS, Eyeshadows- 2-4 yrs....foundation and blush - 3 YRS....so really u wanna throw out you makeup stash after 4-5 yrs...it builds bacteria we cannot see....and it can create chemical reactions to your eyes and skin...ppl have all this makeup...throw it out after a while...so im trying to not buy so much and use what i have. just saying:)
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MACkilledme

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Hi everyone, lookking for gift advice today :) I would love to get one of the sets for my little sister but I don't know which one : she's 22, she has long brown hair very dark eyes and she's olive-skinned. Which set do you think would work best ? Do you think I'd find better matches in the Riri holidays collection ? Thank you !!!!
 

erine1881

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Hi everyone, lookking for gift advice today :) I would love to get one of the sets for my little sister but I don't know which one : she's 22, she has long brown hair very dark eyes and she's olive-skinned. Which set do you think would work best ? Do you think I'd find better matches in the Riri holidays collection ? Thank you !!!!
Kinda need a bit more info than that. Does she like to play up her eyes more or her lips? If it's her eyes, does she prefer more dramatic or more natural? Does she prefer pressed shadows (palette) or loose (pigments/glitter)? Then there's also the eye bags. If she likes to do up her lips, does she tend to wear lip liner/stick/gloss (lip bag) or is she just a gloss wearer (mini glosses)? Or does she like to do just about anything (store exclusive bag)? Without more info it's hard to narrow it down to one of the many sets.
 

Deadly

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Quote: Originally Posted by cyclops68
Do I smell a possible swap? *hint hint*

Or I can just wait a couple of months and pray that someone takes their set apart and put the stuff they don't want on ebay. That's how I got the eyeshadow duo with Woodsmoke and Baby It's Cold from the Glitter and Ice holiday collection.


It could be possible. :) I also live in Finland, so we both live in Europe. :) But I've also bought some "bag" items from ebay before. Only if someone would put them individually on ebay..
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MACkilledme

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Without more info it's hard to narrow it down to one of the many sets.
Of course, sorry :) She likes to wear makeup on her eyes mostly, not so much on her lips which are naturally very pigmented and I don't think she'd be confortable with pigments. She just got into makeup so she doesn't use anything "too" complicated such as lip liner or pigments.
 

Audrey C

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It's got its pros and cons, but if you feel like you have a face full of brown spots, scars, enlarged pores and everything else, you might just want to take the plunge and see if you are a good candidate for IPL treatments - basically a laser peel for the face, done by a dermatologist. I had had it with a couple of big dark spots in a very unflattering location right by my eyes and although some products helped them, nothing was really eradicating them. Just 1 IPL treatment (not full face, just on the offending spot) and BAM, totally gone, not coming back - although it's possible it may come back slightly if I don't choose to have a follow-up treatment, plus the texture of the surrounding skin is so smooth now. I'm seriously considering just taking the plunge and doing the full face, since I was a very good candidate for it, with the right skin tone and skin issues. I will probably wait a few more years before I go with that, as my skin texture is still quite good, but I will be happy to kiss my pores goodbye along with all the other spots and imperfections - obviously upfront higher cost than buying products, but one or two treatments is all a reputable doctor would ever suggest and then you are free from all the constant peels and multiple products and rebalancing all your other moisturizing needs to compensate for the peels, etc. You can get a fresh start and take it from there. I was very happy I tried it out - and to get rid of the spots in the small area I did was $150 - that's practically what one month's supply of some of these things cost in the first place.
I'm considering doing that myself; I got the name of a highly regarded dermatologist from my boss. She did a couple of IPL treatments and a couple of chemical peels (same doc) and her skin easily looks 10 years younger than it is. No hyper pigmentation - no browns spot. I have both. I am diligent about using serums and sunscreen and they've definitely helped, but there's a limit to what OTC can do.

My facial skin is darker than it used to be, but not everywhere. That's why MUAs typically try to put too dark a foundation on me. There's a Lisa Eldridge video about choosing the right foundation - that's the method I'm using and it's made a huge difference. Basically, she says if you just match the darkest area (say chin) and then do the full face, then you look like an oompa loompa. That's exactly what was happening with me. Instead, she suggests going with a spot without sun damage (jawline back near the ear, and then match that). Yes, if you just use a dab of foundation on your darkest areas, it will initially look too light. But not after the full face is done.

For me, it's the difference between NC23 and NC30-35. It's taken a lot of experimentation, but I've finally landed on my favourite foundation routine. First I apply Clinique's Redness Solutions Daily Protective Treatment. It's green, and it neutralizes the red in my nose, cheeks and chin. I instantly drop at least NC5. I mix a tiny pea sized dab of Clinique Redness Solutions foundation (03-Calming Ivory) with the same sized dab of MAC Studio Moisture Tint (Medium). The Clinique really tones down any redness but it's heavier than I like to wear - mixed with the tinted moisturizer it's just right. My skin magically looks much more even and stays that way until I remove it. When I just apply Studio Moisture Tint on it's own without the Clinique, it doesn't have the same staying power. I was using P&P C2 or Matchmaster 1.5, but I much prefer the finish of my current frankenfoundation.

I doubt I'll ever get back to the NC20 of my youth (neck and other non-tanned area colour), but I'd be happy with more consistent skin tone. I think IPL might also help a bit with my enlarged pores. Anyway, that will be my treat to myself in the new year. The sessions are expensive, but no more so than a few MAC hauls. I have all the makeup I need - time to help Mother Nature a bit.
 

Deadly

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Anyone like to buy a BNIB Centre Of Attention MSF? It would be shipped from USA to USA with DC. Never even gotten it myself(I live in Finland). :D Please help and PM if you're interested in buying the MSF. :)
 

tirurit

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I'm considering doing that myself; I got the name of a highly regarded dermatologist from my boss. She did a couple of IPL treatments and a couple of chemical peels (same doc) and her skin easily looks 10 years younger than it is. No hyper pigmentation - no browns spot. I have both. I am diligent about using serums and sunscreen and they've definitely helped, but there's a limit to what OTC can do.

My facial skin is darker than it used to be, but not everywhere. That's why MUAs typically try to put too dark a foundation on me. There's a Lisa Eldridge video about choosing the right foundation - that's the method I'm using and it's made a huge difference. Basically, she says if you just match the darkest area (say chin) and then do the full face, then you look like an oompa loompa. That's exactly what was happening with me. Instead, she suggests going with a spot without sun damage (jawline back near the ear, and then match that). Yes, if you just use a dab of foundation on your darkest areas, it will initially look too light. But not after the full face is done.

For me, it's the difference between NC23 and NC30-35. It's taken a lot of experimentation, but I've finally landed on my favourite foundation routine. First I apply Clinique's Redness Solutions Daily Protective Treatment. It's green, and it neutralizes the red in my nose, cheeks and chin. I instantly drop at least NC5. I mix a tiny pea sized dab of Clinique Redness Solutions foundation (03-Calming Ivory) with the same sized dab of MAC Studio Moisture Tint (Medium). The Clinique really tones down any redness but it's heavier than I like to wear - mixed with the tinted moisturizer it's just right. My skin magically looks much more even and stays that way until I remove it. When I just apply Studio Moisture Tint on it's own without the Clinique, it doesn't have the same staying power. I was using P&P C2 or Matchmaster 1.5, but I much prefer the finish of my current frankenfoundation.

I doubt I'll ever get back to the NC20 of my youth (neck and other non-tanned area colour), but I'd be happy with more consistent skin tone. I think IPL might also help a bit with my enlarged pores. Anyway, that will be my treat to myself in the new year. The sessions are expensive, but no more so than a few MAC hauls. I have all the makeup I need - time to help Mother Nature a bit.
I loooove that video! When I see friends wearing the wrong foundation or simply the same foundation all year long I am so tempted to send them the link! (I have done a couple of times with people I know won't get offended ;) ) That video really helped me as I too kept being matched with a darker foundation than I needed!
 

cyclops68

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It's got its pros and cons, but if you feel like you have a face full of brown spots, scars, enlarged pores and everything else, you might just want to take the plunge and see if you are a good candidate for IPL treatments - basically a laser peel for the face, done by a dermatologist. I had had it with a couple of big dark spots in a very unflattering location right by my eyes and although some products helped them, nothing was really eradicating them. Just 1 IPL treatment (not full face, just on the offending spot) and BAM, totally gone, not coming back - although it's possible it may come back slightly if I don't choose to have a follow-up treatment, plus the texture of the surrounding skin is so smooth now. I'm seriously considering just taking the plunge and doing the full face, since I was a very good candidate for it, with the right skin tone and skin issues. I will probably wait a few more years before I go with that, as my skin texture is still quite good, but I will be happy to kiss my pores goodbye along with all the other spots and imperfections - obviously upfront higher cost than buying products, but one or two treatments is all a reputable doctor would ever suggest and then you are free from all the constant peels and multiple products and rebalancing all your other moisturizing needs to compensate for the peels, etc. You can get a fresh start and take it from there. I was very happy I tried it out - and to get rid of the spots in the small area I did was $150 - that's practically what one month's supply of some of these things cost in the first place.
Hey ladies, I have had experience doing IPL and also laser facial rejuvenation so I think I can weigh in. My parents who are in their 60s do IPL I think once every 6 months or so to get rid of age spots and also to improve the firmness of their skin. According to my dad, it's especially evident on the skin around the neck. It also lightens/eliminates age spots, which is why they have been visiting the dermatologist religiously for the past 6 years. The results are very good on my mother (I think it's because she uses more skincare products) but on my dad, the spots do return because he refuses to use sunscreen. He does "upkeep" by applying a regenerating moisturizer every night.

Now, comparing IPL and laser rejuvenation from my own experience - I just turned 25 and I had my first treatment of laser rejuvenation at 19 at the insistence of my parents. I had some spots on my cheeks (not freckles) from a very young age. The doctor says that it's due to sun exposure and also genetic factors (my aunts have quite a few spots on their faces). Laser rejuvenation works by striking off the top layer of the skin containing the imperfection. The result is clearer, even skintone. I have to say though, it hurts a little- it feels like someone pulling and letting go of an elastic on your face. I think I go in once a year or so, and I use SPF50 every day to avoid the pigmentation's return. Also, minute facial hairs (especially around my upper lip) are lightened a lot.

Earlier this year, I decided to try IPL to even up my skintone since it's been about a year and a half since I had a laser treatment. IPL supposedly simulates collagen formation, so whatever effect you get comes from within, unlike laser rejuvenation that erases from the exterior. After the treatment, my skin felt quite tight, which according to my dad is normal. I guess it was also more supple, However, my skintone didn't even up, so I think I will be going back to doing laser rejuvenation. It's not surprising because IPL is targeting towards more mature skin. If I am not wrong, IPL is slightly more expensive than lasesr rejuvenation.

By the way, IPL is also a hair removal technique. I'm pleased to say that I've had that done on my underarms and I recommend it. I'd be happy to explain to anyone who's interested on what to expect.
 

Audrey C

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Hey ladies, I have had experience doing IPL and also laser facial rejuvenation so I think I can weigh in. My parents who are in their 60s do IPL I think once every 6 months or so to get rid of age spots and also to improve the firmness of their skin. According to my dad, it's especially evident on the skin around the neck. It also lightens/eliminates age spots, which is why they have been visiting the dermatologist religiously for the past 6 years. The results are very good on my mother (I think it's because she uses more skincare products) but on my dad, the spots do return because he refuses to use sunscreen. He does "upkeep" by applying a regenerating moisturizer every night.

Now, comparing IPL and laser rejuvenation from my own experience - I just turned 25 and I had my first treatment of laser rejuvenation at 19 at the insistence of my parents. I had some spots on my cheeks (not freckles) from a very young age. The doctor says that it's due to sun exposure and also genetic factors (my aunts have quite a few spots on their faces). Laser rejuvenation works by striking off the top layer of the skin containing the imperfection. The result is clearer, even skintone. I have to say though, it hurts a little- it feels like someone pulling and letting go of an elastic on your face. I think I go in once a year or so, and I use SPF50 every day to avoid the pigmentation's return. Also, minute facial hairs (especially around my upper lip) are lightened a lot.

Earlier this year, I decided to try IPL to even up my skintone since it's been about a year and a half since I had a laser treatment. IPL supposedly simulates collagen formation, so whatever effect you get comes from within, unlike laser rejuvenation that erases from the exterior. After the treatment, my skin felt quite tight, which according to my dad is normal. I guess it was also more supple, However, my skintone didn't even up, so I think I will be going back to doing laser rejuvenation. It's not surprising because IPL is targeting towards more mature skin. If I am not wrong, IPL is slightly more expensive than lasesr rejuvenation.

By the way, IPL is also a hair removal technique. I'm pleased to say that I've had that done on my underarms and I recommend it. I'd be happy to explain to anyone who's interested on what to expect.
I haven't actually seen the doc, so I don't really have a pre-conceived notion of whether chemical peels, laser rejuvination or IPL will be more appropriate. She has an excellent reputation so I'll be guided by her recommendations. She's all about non-surgical solutions, which I like.

I'm in my mid-40s so it's probably time. I spent my summers at my grandparents' cottage in the 70s - none of us wore sunscreen and I was very dark by the end of the season. In the 80s, I tanned with my friends because the tanned look was considered beautiful. Now I look at tans the same way I would bruises - evidence of trauma to the skin.

I did laser hair removal (also underarms) in my 30s. I couldn't be bothered to keep up with it - you can't tell now that I ever had it done. It doesn't result in a permanent reduction of hair and since it only takes a moment to shave it's not worth it to me.
 
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